Google Stadia instead of next gen console??
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It’s a good idea, but bombed at launch. If it’s better now, that nice, but it’s currently solving a problem I don’t have. I assume this is common, as they’re now giving free trials in an attempt to get people to use it...
I have a games console, I don’t need stadia. My console gives me access to free monthly games as part of a subscription. While they do need to be downloaded, this is a one off and this can (and does) happen while the console is in rest mode, so they’re ready for me when I turn it on.
I can’t see that I’d move to this if I upgrade to a next gen console, as I’m now in an ecosystem that suits me, and that I trust...
I have a games console, I don’t need stadia. My console gives me access to free monthly games as part of a subscription. While they do need to be downloaded, this is a one off and this can (and does) happen while the console is in rest mode, so they’re ready for me when I turn it on.
I can’t see that I’d move to this if I upgrade to a next gen console, as I’m now in an ecosystem that suits me, and that I trust...
Mastodon2 said:
I think the sort of person who plays Destiny 2 with a track pad isn't overly concerned with controller lag. 
This is a great example of how a bit of fancy tech can flop and yet still impress the casual user. And before anyone says it's not a flop, look at the daily user statistics. It's not building momentum, it had a bad start and now it is deflating even more.
Maybe this whole streaming games thing has a future, when Internet becomes so instantaneously fast that input lag is no more perceptible than on a controller or mouse and keyboard, until that point it is never going to impress anyone who is really serious about gaming.
I’ve been keeping my fingers crossed since launch but to be honest I’m slowly giving up hope. I barely touch Stadia anymore, only to check out free Pro games. This is a great example of how a bit of fancy tech can flop and yet still impress the casual user. And before anyone says it's not a flop, look at the daily user statistics. It's not building momentum, it had a bad start and now it is deflating even more.
Maybe this whole streaming games thing has a future, when Internet becomes so instantaneously fast that input lag is no more perceptible than on a controller or mouse and keyboard, until that point it is never going to impress anyone who is really serious about gaming.
Of course there are positives to Stadia like instant gaming anywhere, anytime. However dying because of controller lag is bit frustrating. Strangely enough I’ve only noticed this on multiplayer games. I play RDR2 and D2 mostly.
Edit: I mostly play on tv using Stadia controller
Sometimes I will mount phone to controller to play on the bog. Doofus said:
You're absolutely right. In the same way that hardcore musophiles will never be without their vinyl ( ). Equally, hardcore coders, hackers and bashers will always use PCs (you can't hack GaaS titles like you can box games). It's about the shift in balance between physical and virtual, and forthe mass audience, that's only going one way.
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch. ). Equally, hardcore coders, hackers and bashers will always use PCs (you can't hack GaaS titles like you can box games). It's about the shift in balance between physical and virtual, and forthe mass audience, that's only going one way.Oakey said:
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch.
Well, if the price is right... 
A Netflix style access everything at a single low(ish) price could be quite appealing. Amazon style some stuff free others full price less so.DanL said:
Oakey said:
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch.
Well, if the price is right... A Netflix style access everything at a single low(ish) price could be quite appealing. Amazon style some stuff free others full price less so.Edited by TheDrBrian on Thursday 2nd July 16:03
Oakey said:
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch.
Nobody's asking you to get really excited about it. If you don't want it, that's fine. Many people do - including the service providers, and you refusing to get excited about it won't stop the train. 
I've had more time to play with it, surprised to find out the xBox controller works with no issues. Decided am too old and slow for competitive FPS, the various market places/bounties etc is too confusing for my old brain 
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For all those say they will miss owning physical media, the same was said about music and films.
Overall am impressed enough to keep the Pro subscription going at the moment. Just the ease of been able to run the latest games with no worries about hardware, no loading times is great. Add £0 new hardware costs and £8.99/month when Xbox live is £4/month is pretty good.
When you consider the only thing my 2013 MacBookPro doesn't do well is letting me play the occasional games, its really quite nice I now no longer need to replace it for as long as it can run Chrome, and absolutely 0% chance now of me spending £500 on a PS5.
.For all those say they will miss owning physical media, the same was said about music and films.
Overall am impressed enough to keep the Pro subscription going at the moment. Just the ease of been able to run the latest games with no worries about hardware, no loading times is great. Add £0 new hardware costs and £8.99/month when Xbox live is £4/month is pretty good.
When you consider the only thing my 2013 MacBookPro doesn't do well is letting me play the occasional games, its really quite nice I now no longer need to replace it for as long as it can run Chrome, and absolutely 0% chance now of me spending £500 on a PS5
.Oakey said:
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch.
There's also the 'will Google get tired of it and pull the plug?' factor to consider.Just about any Google paid service now I view with suspicion and won't put any money into it.
Lucas Ayde said:
Oakey said:
Yeah, we should all get really excited for a future where you no longer own any of your media, can't resell it after you're done with it and can have it taken away from you at the flick of a switch.
There's also the 'will Google get tired of it and pull the plug?' factor to consider.Just about any Google paid service now I view with suspicion and won't put any money into it.
hyphen said:
PS5 isn't for casual gamers. And it will also depend on what blockbuster titles it has that stadia will not have.
Its all abit irrelevant though when Stadia is £8.99/month versus £500 for hardware + £40-50 for games + £4/month for online mutliplayer access.If Stadia gets some 'Exclusive' titles than who on earth is going to waste all that money (and time) on separate gaming stuff when a Chrome browser is all you need.
It really depends on how much money Goggle wants to throw into it, for £8.99/month am happy with it, might even 'buy' a game on it and stop the Pro subscription at some point. Got one month free which might be enough to see me get bored of GRID.
Cyberpunk looks interesting, I wonder how pricing will be on Stadia? Would also be interesting if it runs better on my 2013 laptop with Stadia versus my Xbox One (after waiting a few hours to install/update that is
).Edited by gangzoom on Friday 3rd July 06:15
hyphen said:
PS5 isn't for casual gamers. And it will also depend on what blockbuster titles it has that stadia will not have.
I’d call myself a casual gamer, and I’ll end up buying a PS5... Almost certainly not at launch, but probably within the first 12 months once a compelling game or two is released. DanL said:
hyphen said:
PS5 isn't for casual gamers. And it will also depend on what blockbuster titles it has that stadia will not have.
I’d call myself a casual gamer, and I’ll end up buying a PS5... Almost certainly not at launch, but probably within the first 12 months once a compelling game or two is released. "PS5 is predominantly for non casual buyers, as indicated by the high price tag of initial entry, subscriptions and game prices. There will though be some with money to burn who will buy it for occasional usage, attracted by a particular flagships game"
Happy?
hyphen said:
Corrected:
"PS5 is predominantly for non casual buyers, as indicated by the high price tag of initial entry, subscriptions and game prices. There will though be some with money to burn who will buy it for occasional usage, attracted by a particular flagships game"
Happy?
This is PH, I’ll never be happy until I’ve out-pedanted everyone else on here! "PS5 is predominantly for non casual buyers, as indicated by the high price tag of initial entry, subscriptions and game prices. There will though be some with money to burn who will buy it for occasional usage, attracted by a particular flagships game"
Happy?
No offence meant.
Yet another subscription service....
I can see it’s potential for the casual gamer.. afterall it’s only a couple of coffees per month, right?
The streaming business is huge, it’s the future but only because of convenience... at the cost of quality... which won’t matter for 90% of users. this is happening across the board from music, films, or products you can buy.
I am not a fan of being in a subscription service. Things mount up a bit. Add your Prime, Netflix, Tidal, etc etc and a big chunk of money goes into things that not many people use enough to justify any savings made.
I am old school perhaps but still like to have physical media to watch and listen as many times as I want and without any extra costs or future restricted access.
But Stadia potential is huge for casual gamer... maybe they tie it with a mobile phone contract like Spotify do.
I can see it’s potential for the casual gamer.. afterall it’s only a couple of coffees per month, right?
The streaming business is huge, it’s the future but only because of convenience... at the cost of quality... which won’t matter for 90% of users. this is happening across the board from music, films, or products you can buy.
I am not a fan of being in a subscription service. Things mount up a bit. Add your Prime, Netflix, Tidal, etc etc and a big chunk of money goes into things that not many people use enough to justify any savings made.
I am old school perhaps but still like to have physical media to watch and listen as many times as I want and without any extra costs or future restricted access.
But Stadia potential is huge for casual gamer... maybe they tie it with a mobile phone contract like Spotify do.
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