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1983 - Commodore 64
1990 - Commodore Amiga
1991 - Nintendo Super Famicom (Imported Japanese Super Nintendo with £50+ games)
1992 onwards - PC
Looking back, although I loved all the systems at the time, none of them have dated well at all. I have tried dipping back into C64,Amiga and SNES games but they were of their time and the perceived nostalgia is better than trying to relieve it.
The only games I enjoy playing anymore are first person shooters and I think the only way you can play them is with a mouse and keyboard. The ones I have played most are the Call of Duty modern warfare series and I must have completed each of them dozens of times.
I have tried playing online but I am just old for all that now, the last time I played I killed 2 people for 22 deaths......
I would love to play the more recent COD games but my laptop cannot handle them and I am loathed to spend £1K on a new one just to play them. But one day....
1990 - Commodore Amiga
1991 - Nintendo Super Famicom (Imported Japanese Super Nintendo with £50+ games)
1992 onwards - PC
Looking back, although I loved all the systems at the time, none of them have dated well at all. I have tried dipping back into C64,Amiga and SNES games but they were of their time and the perceived nostalgia is better than trying to relieve it.
The only games I enjoy playing anymore are first person shooters and I think the only way you can play them is with a mouse and keyboard. The ones I have played most are the Call of Duty modern warfare series and I must have completed each of them dozens of times.
I have tried playing online but I am just old for all that now, the last time I played I killed 2 people for 22 deaths......
I would love to play the more recent COD games but my laptop cannot handle them and I am loathed to spend £1K on a new one just to play them. But one day....
Mr Whippy said:
Pc games are great, I think the main issue is if you don’t have time to sift through all the crap there is a lot of turd out there... as it’s always been... but older pc gamers may be fatigued these days haha.
I’m still on the fence about starting my own pc driving sim in UE.
Main issues is lisences. Hmmm. Not so keen on made up cars at first.
Think rfactor and TDU mixed together but in North Yorkshire.
A bit like Forza Horizon 3 but with actual care about realism, and without the cheese back story, and without a 2 year shelf life.
This all sounds pretty cool. Have you experience in making games before?I’m still on the fence about starting my own pc driving sim in UE.
Main issues is lisences. Hmmm. Not so keen on made up cars at first.
Think rfactor and TDU mixed together but in North Yorkshire.
A bit like Forza Horizon 3 but with actual care about realism, and without the cheese back story, and without a 2 year shelf life.
Joey Deacon said:
Looking back, although I loved all the systems at the time, none of them have dated well at all. I have tried dipping back into C64,Amiga and SNES games but they were of their time and the perceived nostalgia is better than trying to relieve it.
I have an amiga emulator with pretty much all the games and I agree with you. At the time they were mind blowing but now mostly they can be a little annoying. However...some of the best ones such as speedball 2 are still as challenging and fun as they were back then when. Steven_RW said:
I have an amiga emulator with pretty much all the games and I agree with you. At the time they were mind blowing but now mostly they can be a little annoying. However...some of the best ones such as speedball 2 are still as challenging and fun as they were back then when.
About 12 years ago I bought an Amiga on eBay with the sole intention of playing FA18 Interceptor. I absolutely loved it when I was younger and would spend hours just flying around San Francisco, flying under the bridge and trying to eject upside down inches from the ground or land upside down on the water.I had visions of me starting from scratch and going through all of the missions. My Amiga arrived, I set it up, inserted the disc, saw the loading screen and listened to the music inspired by the Goose death instrumental in Top Gun. I was instantly transported back to being 16 in my bedroom at my parents house again.
I started the game and that is where it all went wrong. As I accelerated away from the carrier, somehow the photo realistic graphics I remembered had been turned into a jerky five frames per second mess.
I loaded up a few of the other games that came with it and after half an hour put it away and relisted it on eBay.
The first call of duty modern warfare game is now 14 years old and I still happily play that and it doesn't seem to have dated that badly at all.
Sporky said:
I mostly scratch what little retro itch I have by watching other people play the games in question on YouTube.
Same here, and for me the biggest nostalgia hit is actually listening to the Commodore 64 music via SidPlay.Joey Deacon said:
Same here, and for me the biggest nostalgia hit is actually listening to the Commodore 64 music via SidPlay.
Mine is when I suddenly remember the name of a game that's been eluding me for ages.Most recent was Quedex, which I remember as being basically about showing you how rubbish you are at using a joystick. Brutally hard.
Joey Deacon said:
I started the game and that is where it all went wrong. As I accelerated away from the carrier, somehow the photo realistic graphics I remembered had been turned into a jerky five frames per second mess.
I loaded up a few of the other games that came with it and after half an hour put it away and relisted it on eBay.
Yeah that all makes sense. The only games that stand the test of time are ones where the graphics were simple and happen to still be acceptable. Monkey Island. Speedball 2 etc. The gameplay is the key and the graphics are good enough. Simulator stuff took a lot of imagination. One of the first games we ever had was Fighter Pilot for the zx spectrum. We spent ages learning to land that aircraft safely. It took pretty perfect understanding of the angles and the flaps and so on. Check out how basic that is if you get a second. We wouldn't last 10 seconds playing it now :-). I loaded up a few of the other games that came with it and after half an hour put it away and relisted it on eBay.
Sporky said:
I mostly scratch what little retro itch I have by watching other people play the games in question on YouTube.
Same here, and for me the biggest nostalgia hit is actually listening to the Commodore 64 music via SidPlay.I also listen to C64 music on one of the twitch channels that plays it. Me and pretty much nobody else are in that channel listening away :-)
Steven_RW said:
3sixty said:
Yep, I think the issue is even worse over here though. They are literally not selling any cards unless you buy it as a built PC to the extent where people are buying 2k-3k PCs just for the graphics card and trying to offload the rest. The only card they will sell you is a GT710 on its own, its ridiculous
That isn't too far from what it is like here at the moment. During trawling for 30 series graphics cards I have had prebuilt pcs from PC Specialist, HP Omen and Chillblast all sitting specced up in my basket and sat there doing some hard man maths trying to decide if I could make it work by selling on the components i wouldn't need. It is tough times in the hardware world.Other option is a SFF PC (limited desk space with work from home) and keep the current 1650 laptop.
Otherwise being back on PC is great (even using a controller) I do find myself installing games to try then jumping back to my old habits (Destiny 2 mostly) although quite enjoying Project Cars 2 and Forza 7.
Davie
superstreek said:
Otherwise being back on PC is great (even using a controller) I do find myself installing games to try then jumping back to my old habits (Destiny 2 mostly) although quite enjoying Project Cars 2 and Forza 7.
Davie
If you're back in Project Cars 2 I can recommend joining the Stoopid Challenges hotlap comp run by a pistonheader. There's 3 leagues, you get a load of telemetry showing where you're getting annihilated by the fast guys and you drive different tracks and cars than you might normally. The last race of the 6 week season ends tonight and it's come down to aggregate times and 0.144 seconds.Davie
https://www.stoopidchallenges.com/
superstreek said:
Otherwise being back on PC is great (even using a controller)
Davie
The introduction of simple controller plug in to a pc was a massive moment for me. No clever mapping needed, just plug in your xbox one controller (for me) and off you go. All of a sudden I could use the extra power of the pc and the extra resolution and feel none of ease of playing and controller benefits that come with a console were missing. Good times.Davie
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seefarr said:
superstreek said:
Otherwise being back on PC is great (even using a controller) I do find myself installing games to try then jumping back to my old habits (Destiny 2 mostly) although quite enjoying Project Cars 2 and Forza 7.
Davie
If you're back in Project Cars 2 I can recommend joining the Stoopid Challenges hotlap comp run by a pistonheader. There's 3 leagues, you get a load of telemetry showing where you're getting annihilated by the fast guys and you drive different tracks and cars than you might normally. The last race of the 6 week season ends tonight and it's come down to aggregate times and 0.144 seconds.Davie
https://www.stoopidchallenges.com/
Mr Whippy said:
Pc games are great, I think the main issue is if you don’t have time to sift through all the crap there is a lot of turd out there... as it’s always been... but older pc gamers may be fatigued these days haha.
I’m still on the fence about starting my own pc driving sim in UE.
Main issues is lisences. Hmmm. Not so keen on made up cars at first.
Think rfactor and TDU mixed together but in North Yorkshire.
A bit like Forza Horizon 3 but with actual care about realism, and without the cheese back story, and without a 2 year shelf life.
You have no idea how enthusiastic I would be about that. TDU to this day has my highest hour count for any game I've played. Most of my time on Assetto Corsa is on open world map mods. Whilst I've loved every Forza game, none of the horizons bar 1 ever really hit the spot for me. I’m still on the fence about starting my own pc driving sim in UE.
Main issues is lisences. Hmmm. Not so keen on made up cars at first.
Think rfactor and TDU mixed together but in North Yorkshire.
A bit like Forza Horizon 3 but with actual care about realism, and without the cheese back story, and without a 2 year shelf life.
I'm not sure how much hope I have for the new TDU that's in the works but I'd be hard at the thought of any PC game that'd give a similar experience to TDU1
I used to be in this camp...but built my last gaming PC around 2008. Although I loved consoles, I always loved the impressive technical achievements and scope of PC games of the 90s and 00s. Even playing X-wing and Blake Stone on a 386 blew away what my Amiga 500+ was capable of at the time.
Following that, Doom, Dark Forces, Quake, Mechwarrior 2, Quake 2 & 3 (inc. mods like Action Quake 2 and Urban Terror), Interstate 76, Half Life, Far Cry, XIII and the Jedi Knight games. Some great memories of being blown away the first time I ran GL Quake, or the first time I ran games in hi-res with a GeForce 6800 card. I played some of the FPS games online obsessively and to be honest burnt out of sitting in front of a computer in my spare time.
I still run through Doom II on my MacBook every now and then for fun though!
Following that, Doom, Dark Forces, Quake, Mechwarrior 2, Quake 2 & 3 (inc. mods like Action Quake 2 and Urban Terror), Interstate 76, Half Life, Far Cry, XIII and the Jedi Knight games. Some great memories of being blown away the first time I ran GL Quake, or the first time I ran games in hi-res with a GeForce 6800 card. I played some of the FPS games online obsessively and to be honest burnt out of sitting in front of a computer in my spare time.
I still run through Doom II on my MacBook every now and then for fun though!
Steven_RW said:
A thread for all the positive upbeat pc gamers that have lived through any or all generations of pc gaming and still have enough energy in their tanks to not waste their day moaning about everything.
Liken this type of pc gamer to people that enjoy a bit of a hobby car and not just a Porsche their dealership changes the oil on and even sets their tyre pressures once a year.
Roll up roll up. Who has enjoyed faffing with their pc and indulging in some 4k, ultra wide or HD high frames per second glory and still has enough enthusiasm to talk about it.
I am in that camp. It may be lonely.
Very much so. From 386s, to overclocking and modding cases etc before it was a 'thing' and available in stores, to Sli with Voodoo's and beyond; and from halls / homes full of people / friends with heavy PC monitors and machines all linked together, to VR.... Pretty much been there and done it all, seen it all, owned it all and played it all Liken this type of pc gamer to people that enjoy a bit of a hobby car and not just a Porsche their dealership changes the oil on and even sets their tyre pressures once a year.
Roll up roll up. Who has enjoyed faffing with their pc and indulging in some 4k, ultra wide or HD high frames per second glory and still has enough enthusiasm to talk about it.
I am in that camp. It may be lonely.
I would think nothing all those years ago of getting the biggest widescreen CRT monitor and a dozen heatsinks at the same time just to see which I prefered. We went through peltier cooling, fridge units and almost constant upgrades in pursuit of performance. I dare not think of the costs involved, but as an example, my first 2x speed CD writer was £350 second hand and ten blank cds cost me £150. Name a storage device before that and we probably had them, too and I would image I had a grands worth of cases dotted around!
I have only ever owned two purchased PCs. One was a pentium 166 from PC world iirc and the other was a Gateway which I only purchased because it was a cheap way to get hold of the P3 750 cpu (The ones the size of Mars Bars). The PC was delivered, I took out the CPU and chucked the rest in the loft. I built everything myself other than that.
As glorious as the online years were when we got faster internet (no more village halls), I played less and less online mosty due to cheating and often because people just got on my tits, so always focused on single player gaming as the years went on. And sure, some of the magic vanished once overclocking became a doddle, all cases could come with lights and windows etc and everything became so fast, but by that time, I didn't really care about modding and massive overclocks.
The pause button was only really hit for me when I picked up a cpu on the X99 platform in 2015. I did swap cards around (sli mostly) and did end up with two 1080ti's at one point, but it was the first time I hadn't bothered changing a motherboard, cpu, ram, psu, case etc for years. It was all just so good. In fact, I couldn't see me upgrading for some time to come, if at all due to my age............and then the 3080 came out (I didn't bother with the 2080)
To cut a long story short, I now own a new Z490 motherboard with a top Intel CPU, a new case, several new SSD drives, a 3080 and to make things look a little nicer, an LG CX 48 inch 120hz OLED TV as a monitor.
Perhaps I'll never stop!
Digby said:
Very much so. From 386s, to overclocking and modding cases etc before it was a 'thing' and available in stores, to Sli with Voodoo's and beyond; and from halls / homes full of people / friends with heavy PC monitors and machines all linked together, to VR.... Pretty much been there and done it all, seen it all, owned it all and played it all
I would think nothing all those years ago of getting the biggest widescreen CRT monitor and a dozen heatsinks at the same time just to see which I prefered. We went through peltier cooling, fridge units and almost constant upgrades in pursuit of performance. I dare not think of the costs involved, but as an example, my first 2x speed CD writer was £350 second hand and ten blank cds cost me £150. Name a storage device before that and we probably had them, too and I would image I had a grands worth of cases dotted around!
I have only ever owned two purchased PCs. One was a pentium 166 from PC world iirc and the other was a Gateway which I only purchased because it was a cheap way to get hold of the P3 750 cpu (The ones the size of Mars Bars). The PC was delivered, I took out the CPU and chucked the rest in the loft. I built everything myself other than that.
As glorious as the online years were when we got faster internet (no more village halls), I played less and less online mosty due to cheating and often because people just got on my tits, so always focused on single player gaming as the years went on. And sure, some of the magic vanished once overclocking became a doddle, all cases could come with lights and windows etc and everything became so fast, but by that time, I didn't really care about modding and massive overclocks.
The pause button was only really hit for me when I picked up a cpu on the X99 platform in 2015. I did swap cards around (sli mostly) and did end up with two 1080ti's at one point, but it was the first time I hadn't bothered changing a motherboard, cpu, ram, psu, case etc for years. It was all just so good. In fact, I couldn't see me upgrading for some time to come, if at all due to my age............and then the 3080 came out (I didn't bother with the 2080)
To cut a long story short, I now own a new Z490 motherboard with a top Intel CPU, a new case, several new SSD drives, a 3080 and to make things look a little nicer, an LG CX 48 inch 120hz OLED TV as a monitor.
Perhaps I'll never stop!
How do you find the OLED as a monitor? Too big? Too far away? Perfect? Any issues with image retention at all? OLED is perhaps the only thing that might tempt me back to 16:9 from Ultrawide.I would think nothing all those years ago of getting the biggest widescreen CRT monitor and a dozen heatsinks at the same time just to see which I prefered. We went through peltier cooling, fridge units and almost constant upgrades in pursuit of performance. I dare not think of the costs involved, but as an example, my first 2x speed CD writer was £350 second hand and ten blank cds cost me £150. Name a storage device before that and we probably had them, too and I would image I had a grands worth of cases dotted around!
I have only ever owned two purchased PCs. One was a pentium 166 from PC world iirc and the other was a Gateway which I only purchased because it was a cheap way to get hold of the P3 750 cpu (The ones the size of Mars Bars). The PC was delivered, I took out the CPU and chucked the rest in the loft. I built everything myself other than that.
As glorious as the online years were when we got faster internet (no more village halls), I played less and less online mosty due to cheating and often because people just got on my tits, so always focused on single player gaming as the years went on. And sure, some of the magic vanished once overclocking became a doddle, all cases could come with lights and windows etc and everything became so fast, but by that time, I didn't really care about modding and massive overclocks.
The pause button was only really hit for me when I picked up a cpu on the X99 platform in 2015. I did swap cards around (sli mostly) and did end up with two 1080ti's at one point, but it was the first time I hadn't bothered changing a motherboard, cpu, ram, psu, case etc for years. It was all just so good. In fact, I couldn't see me upgrading for some time to come, if at all due to my age............and then the 3080 came out (I didn't bother with the 2080)
To cut a long story short, I now own a new Z490 motherboard with a top Intel CPU, a new case, several new SSD drives, a 3080 and to make things look a little nicer, an LG CX 48 inch 120hz OLED TV as a monitor.
Perhaps I'll never stop!
So I made the crazy move and bought a 3080 laptop with a 240hz QHD screen, OMG it is shockingly good.
Having gone from 30Hz console, 60Hz console/PC then 100Hz monitor, I thought cool, that is nicer but very incremental. Now I find myself playing games on the 15 inch laptop screen instead of the 34inch widescreen even though I am not at 240FPS but maybe 120/160.
Slippery slope, the ultrawide is great for work but then I see a 34 ultrawide with 165Hz panel, resisting so far but the temptation is strong.
Overall PC gaming is very easy these days, EA's game launcher is buggy as hell, Blizzard's ability to disconnect randomly sucks but a couple of clicks and you are off for the most part, no (or at least a choice) faffing with configs, updates can be automated or at least fast and controllers do not require more calibration than the space shuttle.
Off topic but hue lights game sync for racing games is weirdly incredibly immersive.
A happy positive return to PC gaming.
Davie
Having gone from 30Hz console, 60Hz console/PC then 100Hz monitor, I thought cool, that is nicer but very incremental. Now I find myself playing games on the 15 inch laptop screen instead of the 34inch widescreen even though I am not at 240FPS but maybe 120/160.
Slippery slope, the ultrawide is great for work but then I see a 34 ultrawide with 165Hz panel, resisting so far but the temptation is strong.
Overall PC gaming is very easy these days, EA's game launcher is buggy as hell, Blizzard's ability to disconnect randomly sucks but a couple of clicks and you are off for the most part, no (or at least a choice) faffing with configs, updates can be automated or at least fast and controllers do not require more calibration than the space shuttle.
Off topic but hue lights game sync for racing games is weirdly incredibly immersive.
A happy positive return to PC gaming.
Davie
- edited for typos
Edited by superstreek on Friday 30th April 17:18
superstreek said:
So I made the crazy move and bought a 3080 laptop with a 240hz QHD screen, OMG it is shockingly good.
Having gone from 30Hz console, 60Hz console/PC then 100Hz monitor, I thought cool, that is nicer but very incremental. Now I find myself playing games on the 15 inch laptop screen instead of the 34inch widescreen even though I am not at 240FPS but maybe 120/160.
Slippery slope, the ultrawide is great for work but then I see a 34 ultrawide with 165Hz panel, resisting so far but the temptation is strong.
Overall PC gaming is very easy these days, EA's game launcher is buggy as hell, Blizzard's ability to disconnect randomly sucks but a couple of clicks and you are off for the most part, no (or at least a choice) faffing with configs, updates can be automated or at least fast and controllers do not require more calibration than the space shuttle.
Off topic but hue lights game sync for racing games is weirdly incredibly immersive.
A happy positive return to PC gaming.
Davie
Nice :-). I have a 34" 120hz 3440x1440 ips panel but I got so into PubG that I bought at 240hz 1080p panel just for the 1ms response and the extra hz for aiming. The 165hz ultrawide you are probably talking about is a great gaming experience according to my mate that has one linked to his gaming pc.Having gone from 30Hz console, 60Hz console/PC then 100Hz monitor, I thought cool, that is nicer but very incremental. Now I find myself playing games on the 15 inch laptop screen instead of the 34inch widescreen even though I am not at 240FPS but maybe 120/160.
Slippery slope, the ultrawide is great for work but then I see a 34 ultrawide with 165Hz panel, resisting so far but the temptation is strong.
Overall PC gaming is very easy these days, EA's game launcher is buggy as hell, Blizzard's ability to disconnect randomly sucks but a couple of clicks and you are off for the most part, no (or at least a choice) faffing with configs, updates can be automated or at least fast and controllers do not require more calibration than the space shuttle.
Off topic but hue lights game sync for racing games is weirdly incredibly immersive.
A happy positive return to PC gaming.
Davie
- edited for typos
Edited by superstreek on Friday 30th April 17:18
Tell me more about the Hue lights, how does that work? Sounds pretty cool for a bit more immersion!
RW
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