Elden Ring

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toastyhamster

1,660 posts

95 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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Magrit down, the whole castle was easy after that and did Godrick first time. Felled the Tree Sentinel by First Step shortly after, plus mopped up a few others. The boss in the study tower is doing my nut in though, can't get to him on the last level to inflict any damage, not using ranged weapons yet, don't really want to either, not my forte.

The rest of the areas I've explored look way harder, Caelid is just nuts and heading North to the Carians seems just as difficult. I've done most of the academy too, just haven't attempted the big boss yet. Level 89, still using Bloodhounds Fang and a Brass Shield with some Knight/Banished Knight armour as a mix due to weight limit.

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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toastyhamster said:
Magrit down, the whole castle was easy after that and did Godrick first time. Felled the Tree Sentinel by First Step shortly after, plus mopped up a few others. The boss in the study tower is doing my nut in though, can't get to him on the last level to inflict any damage, not using ranged weapons yet, don't really want to either, not my forte.

The rest of the areas I've explored look way harder, Caelid is just nuts and heading North to the Carians seems just as difficult. I've done most of the academy too, just haven't attempted the big boss yet. Level 89, still using Bloodhounds Fang and a Brass Shield with some Knight/Banished Knight armour as a mix due to weight limit.
Caelid: I didn't bother to fight all the massive crows and the huge big head dogs. I just steered around them. That's for both this play through and the last all the way to level 155 or there abouts.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Hit another wall, I either have to beat Radhan or the Godric phantom thing in Leyndall to move forward and they're both pasting me.

I repsecced my character but didn't like it as much so went back to my original str/dex build but I'm just wandering around wondering what to do at the moment.

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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ZedLeg said:
Hit another wall, I either have to beat Radhan or the Godric phantom thing in Leyndall to move forward and they're both pasting me.

I repsecced my character but didn't like it as much so went back to my original str/dex build but I'm just wandering around wondering what to do at the moment.
Radhan is achievalble. The following may help.

At the start just look at him as you run towards the summons, You get to time how to roll through that single arrow he fires. Do that for the first two summon spots. Then get on hoss and ride left fast. As he rains down those arrows keep going left for half of that rain attack then circle back to the mid point where you got on hoss. Summon the third spot. Get back on hoss. Dodge the multi blunderbuss arrows. Hopefully one of your summons will start hand to hand with Radhan. Now just ride around staying entirely out of the fight and just keep summoning. Each time they die you can resummon them after a short while. They are not in their original summon spots. Just ride far and wide till you see their summon marker. Keep doing this. At half way point when he goes up into the stars just listen attentively with your headphones and when you hear his meteor flying in, fly at 90 degrees to the direction it is coming from, Keep riding round and summoning and he will be killed by the summons without you having to have engaged with him at all.

As for the spirit Godf in the upper capital city area. You need a good spirit ashes yourself, preferably at plus ten. Let them get engaged and you just wait for the opening after his big swining attacks. Usually he does around 3 and that you need to dodge. it is like a rhythm game. Then attack. Fall back and let spirit ashes get engaged and then attack him again.

Hope that helps.

RW

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do with Radhan, maybe I'm not paying enough attention to his movements.

I figured I wasn't levelled enough for Godric, been using the Banished Knight Engvall ashes but he's only at level 6. Guess I'll need to go find some higher level gravewort.

Aces_High

66 posts

46 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Steven_RW said:
Fire giant is relatively easy. I completed it after a few goes (maybe 10?) on my first play through and now on my faith strength build I managed on my third shot.

RW
Not easy at all for me. Must have tried 50 times. Have respecc’d character 4 times. Tried to pump arcane and use Rivers of Blood, tried original strength build…every time he just decimates my with that bl**dy shield. Have got to phase 2 only once but still he took me out. It’s annoying - I beat Radahn first time, but this big lug is risking me coming so far only to give up close to the end of the game. Enjoyment is being replaced by rising frustration and that’s a bad sign for me. Will try at the weekend again, maybe I need to be quicker in and out on Torrent and maybe I’m too greedy with my attacks and overstay my welcome. Aargh etc.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,525 posts

154 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Seriously the rot breath and black knife tische but you bwill likely need to Respec to pump e ough into the incantation

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Aces_High said:
Steven_RW said:
Fire giant is relatively easy. I completed it after a few goes (maybe 10?) on my first play through and now on my faith strength build I managed on my third shot.

RW
Not easy at all for me. Must have tried 50 times. Have respecc’d character 4 times. Tried to pump arcane and use Rivers of Blood, tried original strength build…every time he just decimates my with that bl**dy shield. Have got to phase 2 only once but still he took me out. It’s annoying - I beat Radahn first time, but this big lug is risking me coming so far only to give up close to the end of the game. Enjoyment is being replaced by rising frustration and that’s a bad sign for me. Will try at the weekend again, maybe I need to be quicker in and out on Torrent and maybe I’m too greedy with my attacks and overstay my welcome. Aargh etc.
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)

toastyhamster

1,660 posts

95 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.

Ruskie

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3,982 posts

199 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
This is me, 35 hours in. No looking up anything online but getting murdered by most things.

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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My first play through was just over 120 hours. Finished with level 155. I am on my second character at level 125 and 50 hours in. I felt I had caught most of the game on the first play through only to find lots of areas I have not uncovered the first time. I am walking around each area just generally exploring where on the first play through I tried to get through safely and at times quickly so that I didn't lose grace or die unnecessarily.

Stick at it. There is tonnes to go.

Aces_High

66 posts

46 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Steven_RW said:
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)
This is really helpful, thank you. I’ll go back in today over lunch and give it another go. I already have the Tiche ashes though I’ve not been able to level them up much as I used the stones/glovewort (I forget which applies) on my Mimic Tear and Wolves. I suspect I’m just overstaying my welcome in the ankle and need to be fleeter of foot. That shield though frown

Aces_High

66 posts

46 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
I’d totally recommend prioritising that scarab - it makes a big difference to rune collection and hence levelling up. Utter pain to get it though - I’d recommend getting bloodhound’s step first, so you can scoot through the scarlet rot swamp in the abandoned cave - it’s a killer. You’ll want to have max endurance and flasks still leftover, post-swampy bit, as the boss fight has 2 knights attacking you. It really is worth it though - get that scarab talisman.

One great thing I find about the game is the planning needed - to fight boss X I should really have talisman Y, but to get that it’s helpful first to have Armour Z etc. The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,525 posts

154 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Malenia done and now with this Respec she was dam easy infact no hits untill I got excited at the last second and she got one in frown

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Aces_High said:
Steven_RW said:
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)
This is really helpful, thank you. I’ll go back in today over lunch and give it another go. I already have the Tiche ashes though I’ve not been able to level them up much as I used the stones/glovewort (I forget which applies) on my Mimic Tear and Wolves. I suspect I’m just overstaying my welcome in the ankle and need to be fleeter of foot. That shield though frown
On reflection and re-read I feel I need to be more clear that I stay on Torrent all of the time if possible. Where I said you need to get on torrent after the giant rolls, all going well you are still on torrent anyway, so even faster to run after him and press circle to throttle on! Good luck and look fwd to update on VICTORY.

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Aces_High said:
The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
What is tenet?

Aces_High

66 posts

46 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Steven_RW said:
What is tenet?
Just my bad joke - the Christopher Nolan film that majored on timey-wimey stuff! I won’t give up the day job….

ps noted on Torrent, cheers. Going back in soon.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

107 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Steven_RW said:
Aces_High said:
The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
What is tenet?
You need to look at some media outside of fromsoft mate wink

Trustmeimadoctor

12,525 posts

154 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Even I have to admit it's more fun than tenent

toastyhamster

1,660 posts

95 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Aces_High said:
toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
I’d totally recommend prioritising that scarab - it makes a big difference to rune collection and hence levelling up. Utter pain to get it though - I’d recommend getting bloodhound’s step first, so you can scoot through the scarlet rot swamp in the abandoned cave - it’s a killer. You’ll want to have max endurance and flasks still leftover, post-swampy bit, as the boss fight has 2 knights attacking you. It really is worth it though - get that scarab talisman.

One great thing I find about the game is the planning needed - to fight boss X I should really have talisman Y, but to get that it’s helpful first to have Armour Z etc. The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
Got it, although the Scarlet Rot with a controller with drift was no fun, finally swapped the controller out and once I got past the rot with no damage I did the rest at first go, the two bosses at the end weren't very hard. The next few days is going to include clubbing seals at Palace Ledge.