GT5 Championship / Sunday 9pm

[EFC1878]

Defo in if it's a Sunday night, but won't be able to do Wednesdays.

What's the score if someone can't get into a room?

I tried several times to get into the rooms last night, and only got in for 2 races. One of which the screen went black for about 2 minutes, then I started 1m30s behind everyone else from the pit lane!

psn id TinkersRucksack

Edited by EFC1878 on Tuesday 4th January 13:40

[Mr_Yogi]

Evo said:

Ian, just save the replay of each race and if anyone raises an off the road moment / cutting corners then the replay will give you said evidence and penalise accordingly. La Sarthe is terrible for this.

Are there replays for online races? And can they be saved?

Could possibly be up for this if after 8pm, I think I'll be great

[Evo]

Yes, if you click on the rostrum icon it lets you save the game plus it also allows you to watch any car at any point in the race.

[S3_Graham]

1	Darkdice	darkdice
2	pvapour	pvapour
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky
6	MSTRBKR	MSTRBKR_
7	Rex	Rex218
8	Norbury90	Norbury90
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05
12	pexy	pexy123
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep
14	les3002	les3002
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000

(pending the fact its on a monday/wednesday/thursday!)

Reserve drivers

1	Gun	mattq84
2	chrisg_s2k	Dr_Bid
3	Killer 2005	Killer_2005

Edited by S3_Graham on Tuesday 4th January 15:25

ETA we may need 2 rooms for this, as there are a few regulars for the 400/1200 that havent put their name down yet! (Blade etc)

Edited by S3_Graham on Tuesday 4th January 15:27

[Norbury90]

I would be surprised if all those who have their names down actually show up for all of the races. Organising this many people is no mean feat!

[Diablos-666]

Can I be added please?

PSN: Diablos-666MkII (2 x Capital i's not 1's)

[Carmo99]

I'm a weekdays person.

1	Darkdice	darkdice
2	pvapour	pvapour
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky
6	MSTRBKR	MSTRBKR_
7	Rex	Rex218
8	Norbury90	Norbury90
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05
12	pexy	pexy123
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep
14	les3002	les3002
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII

(pending the fact its on a monday/wednesday/thursday!)

Reserve drivers

1	Gun	mattq84
2	chrisg_s2k	Dr_Bid
3	Killer 2005	Killer_2005
4	Carmo99	Carmo99

Edited by Carmo99 on Wednesday 5th January 07:04

[Pvapour]

1st Draft

PH GT5 Championship 2011 (Season 1)

Starts Sunday 16th january 9pm

9pm Qualify
9.30 Race 1 start
10 min break - Race 2

16th January
Laguna Seca
Race 1 - 10 laps Dry
Race 2 - 10 laps Dry

23rd January
Trial Mountain
Race 1 - 10 laps Dry
Race 2 - 10 laps Dry

30th January
Nurburgring
Race 1 - 2 laps Dry
Race 2 - 2 laps Wet

6th February
Grand Valley
Race 1 - 10 laps Dry
Race 2 - 10 laps Dry

13th February
Monza
Race 1 - 10 laps Dry
Race 2 - 10 laps Wet

Points Awarded:
1st = 21
2nd = 19
3rd = 17
4th = 15
5th = 13
6th = 12
and so on down to 17th Place = 1.
Fastest Lap = 2

1st, 2nd, 3rd winners of Race 1 will install the following for Race2:
1st - Std ECU / Std. Exaust (inc cat & Manifold) / Std Intake (inc. manifold)
2nd - Std ECU / Std. Exaust (inc cat & Manifold)
3rd - Std ECU

Race 2 start grid will be reverse grid of finishing positions from Race 1

Cars
2 x Cars per competitor, only 1 x car per track.
Cars to be chosen by Friday 14th, no changes after this date.
1st Car - 400hp max / 1200kg min
2nd Car - 333hp per ton

hp kg
266 - 800
300 - 900
333 - 1000
366 - 1100
400 - 1200
433 - 1300
466 - 1400
500 - 1500
533 - 1600
566 - 1700

Other restrictions & aids
Sports soft tyres
no race cars, race car modification or aero modifications.
ABS only

Rules of conduct
i think we're all pretty respectful of what is acceptable and what is not in terms of contact, if you punt someone off the track and you know you are at fault then man up and let them rejoin in front of you, it's a good way of saying sorry we want to avoid people getting taken off and getting wound up as much as possible as it ruins the game, going at 8/10ths rather than 10/10th is a good idea, especialy at the first corner! it will happen of course but lets try
Corner cutting with 2 wheel still on track is allowed as is the occasional mistake but consistent corner cutting to gain a timing advantage will fall to the voting hammer of the other players and a review of replay (which will be saved after each race)

Disclaimer
being a complete novice at this, any additions or input from people on what's listed above would be gratefully received

ps - I think the unstable network is something we are just going to have to live with tbo, we are all in the same boat in terms of having trouble connecting, if someone is trying to get on we can always delay for 5mins to help, i will have my laptop to hand as many of you do, so posting on PH or IM? any suggestions?

Edited by Pvapour on Wednesday 5th January 17:35

[anonymous-user]

I'll be missing the first race then I get back from snowboarding at about that sort of time and I'll be cream crackered!

[daz4m]

How about upping the laps on the 2nd race, so a short sprint race, then a 15 lapper or something.

[TheStig44]

If there is any spaces left can you count me in, i should be free every sunday evening.

PSN: TheStig44

[anonymous-user]

TheStig44 said:

If there is any spaces left can you count me in, i should be free every sunday evening.

PSN: TheStig44

You can have my spot as I can't commit to Sundays once I'm back at uni. I'll be a reserve if there's any spots going on a particular week. You're in number 6 now.

Carmo99 said:

I'm a weekdays person.

1	Darkdice	darkdice
2	pvapour	pvapour
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky
6	TheStig44	TheStig44
7	Rex	Rex218
8	Norbury90	Norbury90
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05
12	pexy	pexy123
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep
14	les3002	les3002
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII

(pending the fact its on a monday/wednesday/thursday!)

Reserve drivers

1	Gun	mattq84
2	chrisg_s2k	Dr_Bid
3	Killer 2005	Killer_2005
4	Carmo99	Carmo99
5	MSTRBKR	MSTRBKR_

[Pvapour]

MSTRBKR said:

TheStig44 said:

If there is any spaces left can you count me in, i should be free every sunday evening.

PSN: TheStig44

You can have my spot as I can't commit to Sundays once I'm back at uni. I'll be a reserve if there's any spots going on a particular week. You're in number 6 now.

Sorry MTSBKR, It seemed Sunday best fitted 90% of players so had to go with that, hopefully see you there for a couple of races

I'm going to do my upmost to make sure the room is started on time each week, if not I will leave a post for someone else to set up.

One thought though, does anyone think that me being in france with a fairly poor BB speed will hinder progress? or are we better off with someone a little better endowed (BB wise)

[Fartgalen]

Why penalise 1st, 2nd and 3rd places with mods removal, if race 2 is reverse grid ?

And I thought aero was not allowed ?

Edited by Fartgalen on Wednesday 5th January 13:10

[Pvapour]

Fartgalen said:

Why penalise 1st, 2nd and 3rd places with mods removal, if race 2 is reverse grid ?

And I thought aero was not allowed ?

Edited by Fartgalen on Wednesday 5th January 13:10

it works well at = the field for the whole of the 2nd race, otherwise the faster guys get straight to the front pretty quick with same results as R1, gives slower drivers a fighting chance of a podium finish, weight penalties would be better but they're not possible unfortunately.

Didn't know that on the aero, I will remove if that was the case on original format, Y2? ...goes to remove wing

Edited by Pvapour on Wednesday 5th January 13:18

[44quattro]

We’ll need to do some testing on the bhp impact of modification removal. It might well be that because of the specific car you race the loss of a sports exhaust (possibly going from a titanium one to standard) on a turbo’d car could have a much bigger impact than doing the same downgrade to a naturally aspirated car. This could influence your choice of car.

We don’t want the situation where drivers are deliberately not winning races or even coming 2nd / 3rd because the reward for a podium place is a big loss of power for the next high speed race. Also, what happens if the car you are running doesn’t have a race filter / exhaust / ecu? It looks like this is the ideal car to have for this championship.

As fartgalen says, can we not stick with the reverse grid set up? This is a lot easier to manage and not open to users cheating in that sense as I don’t know a way of verifying specific mods on other cars apart from my own.

[Pvapour]

44quattro said:

We’ll need to do some testing on the bhp impact of modification removal. It might well be that because of the specific car you race the loss of a sports exhaust (possibly going from a titanium one to standard) on a turbo’d car could have a much bigger impact than doing the same downgrade to a naturally aspirated car. This could influence your choice of car.

We don’t want the situation where drivers are deliberately not winning races or even coming 2nd / 3rd because the reward for a podium place is a big loss of power for the next high speed race. Also, what happens if the car you are running doesn’t have a race filter / exhaust / ecu? It looks like this is the ideal car to have for this championship.

As fartgalen says, can we not stick with the reverse grid set up? This is a lot easier to manage and not open to users cheating in that sense as I don’t know a way of verifying specific mods on other cars apart from my own.

If people decide to hold back in R1 and not win a race so they are quicker for R2 it makes no difference as someone else will come 1st and get those points, not sure I see the gain tbo.

not sure which cars 'dont' have those areas adjustable? I've not come across any std road cars that dont have this adjustable, race cars yes but not std cars.

see your point on the bigger losses for the turbo cars, again, if its something that needs to be considered when choosing your car then so be it, adds more pros and cons to each car.

[44quattro]

Pvapour said:

not sure which cars 'dont' have those areas adjustable? I've not come across any std road cars that dont have this adjustable, race cars yes but not std cars.

All cars do, what I am trying to say is that if you have a car that is 400bhp and 1200kg without the specific mods named in this thread (exhaust, air filter and ecu) then you can finish on the podium and not be penalised for power.

[Evo]

Doesn't the Zonda have 400bhp and a weight of 1200kg out of the box? That would be a good example.

[Fartgalen]

44quattro said:

Pvapour said:

not sure which cars 'dont' have those areas adjustable? I've not come across any std road cars that dont have this adjustable, race cars yes but not std cars.

All cars do, what I am trying to say is that if you have a car that is 400bhp and 1200kg without the specific mods named in this thread (exhaust, air filter and ecu) then you can finish on the podium and not be penalised for power.

Starting at the back is penalty enough - if you're good enough to make it back to the front and win again, then so be it. We don't need this modern world nannying where everyone gets a prize

Quattro's right too - you can get a car without those mods at 400/1200, so there's nothing to remove for race 2 if you win race 1.