Random Photos : Part 3

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Blukoo

3,812 posts

196 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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I couldn't get the shot I wanted tonight, so I decided to create my own out of a few images...


IMG_0215_composite by Murray 1986, on Flickr

...Mole...

2,780 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Slioch by ScottAMurray, on Flickr

IWantAVolvo

1,903 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Caught the northern lights last night just purely by chance whilst out with a friend!




paul911

2,770 posts

232 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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andrwb said:

D. by Clwn, on Flickr
This one is ace, and could even take some more contrast boosting. Great shot smile

2slo

1,998 posts

166 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Smiddy Shaw reservoir

C2james

4,685 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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andrwb said:
Reprocessed some old portraits. Maybe they're too contrasty.


D. by Clwn, on Flickr


D. by Clwn, on Flickr


D. by Clwn, on Flickr
hello!



/jamesmay

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Coru by robjdickinson, on Flickr

Harry Flashman

19,282 posts

241 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Rob, would you mind sharing the settings you used for that photo?

I'm having real issues with getting shallow depth of field in camera - and think I might need a ned lens, as the maximum aperture of 3.5 at 15mm on my kit lens doesn't seem to want to isolate. At 42mm zoom, max aperture is 5.6, and similarly depth of field is quite high.

There are two lenses I'm considering to rectify this: a 1.7-20mm, and a 1.8-45mm. IO'd sort of like the latter, but have no idea what the minimum focus distance for the two lenses is (am busy finding out) so that I can attempt the sort of close-up work you managed with those ferns!

Any advice, from anyone posting on this thread, greedily assimilated and used, as always...!

nre

531 posts

269 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Harry Flashman said:
Rob, would you mind sharing the settings you used for that photo?

I'm having real issues with getting shallow depth of field in camera - and think I might need a ned lens, as the maximum aperture of 3.5 at 15mm on my kit lens doesn't seem to want to isolate. At 42mm zoom, max aperture is 5.6, and similarly depth of field is quite high.

There are two lenses I'm considering to rectify this: a 1.7-20mm, and a 1.8-45mm. IO'd sort of like the latter, but have no idea what the minimum focus distance for the two lenses is (am busy finding out) so that I can attempt the sort of close-up work you managed with those ferns!

Any advice, from anyone posting on this thread, greedily assimilated and used, as always...!
A longer focal length will give you shallower depth of field, with everything else remaining the same, mess about with this online calculator to see how different paramters change the dof.

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

the exif from Robs photo above shows he used a 400mm at f5.6

Harry Flashman

19,282 posts

241 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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nre said:
Harry Flashman said:
Rob, would you mind sharing the settings you used for that photo?

I'm having real issues with getting shallow depth of field in camera - and think I might need a ned lens, as the maximum aperture of 3.5 at 15mm on my kit lens doesn't seem to want to isolate. At 42mm zoom, max aperture is 5.6, and similarly depth of field is quite high.

There are two lenses I'm considering to rectify this: a 1.7-20mm, and a 1.8-45mm. IO'd sort of like the latter, but have no idea what the minimum focus distance for the two lenses is (am busy finding out) so that I can attempt the sort of close-up work you managed with those ferns!

Any advice, from anyone posting on this thread, greedily assimilated and used, as always...!
A longer focal length will give you shallower depth of field, with everything else remaining the same, mess about with this online calculator to see how different paramters change the dof.

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

the exif from Robs photo above shows he used a 400mm at f5.6
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...

gingerpaul

2,929 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Harry Flashman said:
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...
Are you using a micro 4/3rds camera? I used to have the 20mm f/1.7 and it takes really nice pictures. I can pop up a few examples if you're interested. smile

PGD5

1,112 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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That DOF calculator is very interesting, thanks for the link

Here's the first shot of my new motor, now I'm pretty much done with the styling mods smile


My Black NC MX5 by PGDesigns.co.uk, on Flickr

GetCarter

29,358 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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/\ nice.

Death of a rowing boat:


Dogsey

4,300 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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PGD5 said:
That DOF calculator is very interesting, thanks for the link

Here's the first shot of my new motor, now I'm pretty much done with the styling mods smile


My Black NC MX5 by PGDesigns.co.uk, on Flickr
Missing the Mk1 yet? wink

AstonZagato

12,649 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Harry Flashman said:
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...
I seem to remember that (with 35mm film) a 125mm lens was normally recommended for portraits. The logic was that 125mm is a reasonable approximation to the perceived focal length of the human eye and so features were rendered in the most natural way.

Is my recollection wrong?


Harry Flashman

19,282 posts

241 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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gingerpaul said:
Harry Flashman said:
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...
Are you using a micro 4/3rds camera? I used to have the 20mm f/1.7 and it takes really nice pictures. I can pop up a few examples if you're interested. smile
I am - and yes please! The more I research, the more the 1.8 appeals (either in the Panasonic 20mm or the Olympus 45mm flavour), for the sort of photography I enjoy - quite a lot of indoor, attempts at bokeh etc.

PGD5

1,112 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Dogsey said:
Missing the Mk1 yet? wink
So far, nope.. Ask me again next friday when I'm on the Max5 trackday at Croft...

I'm not driving on the day, no doubt I'll be missing a track bias car then!

markmullen

15,877 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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AstonZagato said:
I seem to remember that (with 35mm film) a 125mm lens was normally recommended for portraits. The logic was that 125mm is a reasonable approximation to the perceived focal length of the human eye and so features were rendered in the most natural way.

Is my recollection wrong?
Generally on 35mm (and hence full frame digital) it is given as 50mm being equivalent to the human eye, hence about 35mm on a crop sensor.

My dad was a professional photographer in the 60s and 70s and says most of them considered either 85mm or 135mm ideal focal lengths for portraits.

GetCarter

29,358 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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(It's a buzzard, not dust!)

2slo

1,998 posts

166 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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/\ I knew you were a bird photographer at heart smile
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