Sky Arts - Master of Photography

Sky Arts - Master of Photography

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pidsy

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7,983 posts

157 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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im sure this will get moved but i wanted to give it a chance in here.

anyone else watch part one last night? 150,000 Euro prize money and some very high production values.

looks like an interesting concept and it was nice to see that 3 of the 12 finalists are from the UK (well, 2 now)

hoping that next weeks show gets a bit more technical.

thoughts?

silobass

1,179 posts

102 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Recorded it, will watch over the weekend.

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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All is not lost...

Master of Photography - Series 1 episode 1 is being repeated again tonight (Friday 22nd July) at 6pm on Sky Arts (Sky channel 121).

Master of Photography - Series 1 episode 2 is being shown on Thursday 28th July at 8pm and again at 11pm on Sky Arts (Sky channel 121).

CooperD

2,866 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Episode One is being shown again tonight at 7pm on Sky Arts HD. I enjoyed the first episode but thought the judges seemed a tad pretentious. I agree that it's an interesting concept with a very good prize for the winner and look forward to watching the series unfold.

ecsrobin

17,100 posts

165 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I can't say I watched it but I know Gina's other half (who is also an accomplished photographer and previous professional photographer of the year) I've seen the image she submitted and it's certainly not on par with her other photography but as she has said online with limited time and a small location area it's never going to get the best of her work.

For those who do want to see more of her outstanding work or buy some of it she can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/ginasodenartist/

silobass

1,179 posts

102 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Watched ep1 last night and quite enjoyed it. I was surprised that Gina was booted out first, I thought one or two of the others were poorer efforts but most were underwhelming considering these 12 people were chosen from thousands of entrants. That said, when they showed a clip from the portfolios earlier on it's easy to see why most were chosen so perhaps the occasion got to some of them. Thought the top three photo's were correct, although I quite liked the one from Hongwei.

Was a bit pretentious, but then a program like this is always going to be. The challenge was good, I enjoyed watching them at work (most of them!)

Richjam

318 posts

188 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I watched it and enjoyed it but was some what confused by the Exif data on some of the shots. Some shots had a relatively high ISO 800 with a very high shutter speed 1/8000 surely you would keep the ISO at 100 and lower the shutter speed to get the same exposure but a better quality image?

silobass

1,179 posts

102 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Probably too dark to shoot at ISO 100 and cameras these days can easily take good enough photos at ISO 800 and more.

pidsy

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7,983 posts

157 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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episode 2 - why id that guy think it was ok to use his mates to stage all his shots? then conveniently mix up memory cards.

they judges dont hold back which is usually a good thing but surely, the images are not going to be to everyone's taste - they want the photographers to become clones of whoever is judging that particular episode.

still fascinating from a keen amateurs point of view but i think its getting a bit pretentious.

Richjam

318 posts

188 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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silobass said:
Probably too dark to shoot at ISO 100 and cameras these days can easily take good enough photos at ISO 800 and more.
I see your point if you have the best kit it's probably doesn't show that much but surely if your in a competition you want to stack all the odds in your favour? Just seemed a little lazy to me..

silobass

1,179 posts

102 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Richjam said:
I see your point if you have the best kit it's probably doesn't show that much but surely if your in a competition you want to stack all the odds in your favour? Just seemed a little lazy to me..
ISO800 really isn't that high, the Canon 5D mkIII goes up to 25,600 and I guess other cameras more. Those Leica cameras they were using probably cost a few £ more too. I don't think it was an issue. Also they're not producing shots for publication, it's just for the judges. I expect the judges want to see more creativity to see what they can get out of people at this stage.

RenesisEvo

3,606 posts

219 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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pidsy said:
they judges dont hold back which is usually a good thing but surely, the images are not going to be to everyone's taste - they want the photographers to become clones of whoever is judging that particular episode.
Agreed, I found the 'pro' to come across as very arrogant, that his status gave his opinions weight. He complained a portrait said nothing about the person, yet the photo they exemplified of his was guilty of exactly that; it was blurry, grainy and non-descript too. He kept saying 'get closer' - as if he would only accept something that he would do, rather than opening his mind to other approaches. Ditto the judges, a little too closed of mind in my view, even if they claim to try and grasp other ideas. I did agree with their comments on the narratives between 3 images (or lack of in some cases).

Also the episodes have been sorely lacking in technical detail - whilst I'm getting interesting ideas on composition, they are glossing over almost entirely the techniques; EXIF data is of limited use, especially when post-pro is used. Do the producers fear the viewers would switch off, or fail to understand?

Too much art and not enough photography for me.

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Master of Photography - Series 1 episode 2 is being shown on Wednesday 3rd August at 7pm on Sky Arts (Sky channel 121).

Master of Photography - Series 1 episode 3 is being shown on Thursday 4th August at 8pm and repeating at 11pm on Sky Arts (Sky channel 121).

silobass

1,179 posts

102 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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On the On Demand section in the Sky program guide for Master of Photography, there's a few other photography programs listed. Not seen any myself yet but will probably give a go at some point.

ISO51200

1,270 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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How that Mary Stuart escaped being booted off is beyond me, that legs photo in Rome, eh?

pidsy

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7,983 posts

157 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Not my favourite subject this week but the English mirror guy had it in the bag. Not executed perfectly but head and shoulders above the rest.

CooperD

2,866 posts

177 months

Friday 12th August 2016
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I'm still finding this show a bit pretentious. The judges seem very hard to please particularly the Italian one. I thought though in last night's episode they made the correct decision with which photographer to drop.

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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CooperD said:
I'm still finding this show a bit pretentious.
I'm in two minds whether to bother.....


Does it have any good points???

pidsy

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7,983 posts

157 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Honestly?

I'm struggling with it. I really wanted to see something that showed outstanding photographers doing what they do best, plenty of info on the tech side of things and a bit of a walk through of their workflow.

What we've got is a big budget competition where the egos are huge (particularly from the judges) and very little technical info at all. The occasional flashes of settings used to gain a final image bear no resemblance to how I would expect the settings to be so I'm not sure if they are made up with a bit of artistic license.

The guy who won last week with the mirror shot and did well again this week with Michael madsen is my favourite - he isn't as OTT as the likes of the short haired German girl who tries to get in every shot she takes.

The guest judge this week was at least helpful and didn't just tell everyone their work was st.

I can't imagin Michael madsen being easy to work with either - especially as the day wore on.

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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I've braved Ep2.....


Interesting, frustrating.

Then an infringement of the rules....


But overall, doesn't show the images and work at all well, does it?