Nikon fit telephoto....

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Turn7

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23,607 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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I know, Im struggling to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Current long lens is 70-300 Nikon.

I want something a bit longer, so if I have to to 300 Im not at the extreme end, something with better glass, and maybe a bit faster.

Choices appear to be limited.

70-200 2.8 and 1.4/1.7 seems to be the best for optics

Lots of talk re Siggy 150/600, which I found cumbersome and to long at the short end.

A good DX 80-400 would be perfect for me I think, but I cant find one.

What to buy chaps ?

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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If you just want 400mm instead of 300mm is cropping not a simple and free option?

steveatesh

4,899 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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If you're feeling flush the new Nikon 79-200 f2.8e and use a tele converter to give you the 400 at the loss of a stop or two.

Or the latest Generation 2 equivalent Tamron seems to be received well by those who have had their fingers on it, again with a TC.

Turn7

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221 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Simpo Two said:
If you just want 400mm instead of 300mm is cropping not a simple and free option?
At the cost of IQ though....

Nigel_O

2,889 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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My son has a Nikkor 70-300 on his D7100 (so effectively a 105-450) and gets very good results with it. Occasionally, he'll borrow one of my teleconverters for a bit more reach.

I use one of two solutions on my D810 - either a 70-200 VRII (plus an extender if required) in anything less than favourable light, or a 200-500 when its bright enough.

The most versatile lens I've used was a Sigma 50-500 OS. Apart from the weight and bulk, it was almost a walkabout lens. It wasn't brilliant on my D5200 but it came alive on the D810 and my son has also used it to very good effect on his D7100. I sold it to fund the 200-500, but I really miss having the short focal length without having to switch lenses

For the OP, I would recommend one of two approaches:-

1) Borrow or hire something longer, to see if it gives you the results you're looking for
2) Try a 1.4 teleconverter - if you don't like it, you'll be able to sell it on very easily



thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Nikon 200-400 f4 is an excellent lens. Pricey mind.

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Turn7 said:
Simpo Two said:
If you just want 400mm instead of 300mm is cropping not a simple and free option?
At the cost of IQ though....
The quality of the image remains the same, you just crop off a bit round the edges (thereby losing the worst of the CA/distortion if there was any). How many pixels X x Y do you need?

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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thebraketester said:
Nikon 200-400 f4 is an excellent lens. Pricey mind.
This.

Or the clever little 300E and a TC.

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Turn7 said:
A good DX 80-400 would be perfect for me I think, but I cant find one.
1 The 80-400 is not DX
2 Grays have a couple on their s/h pages:


Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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You can of course use a (non-DX) 80-400! In fact the IQ will be better because a DX sensor will use only the central portion.

Turn7

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23,607 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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K12beano said:
thebraketester said:
Nikon 200-400 f4 is an excellent lens. Pricey mind.
This.

Or the clever little 300E and a TC.
The 200 is a bit to long I think.

Ive heard the 300 is very good, but a prime is too limiting for my general use sadly. (Or Im to poor to own the correct range of lens I need)

K12beano said:
Turn7 said:
A good DX 80-400 would be perfect for me I think, but I cant find one.
1 The 80-400 is not DX
I know, and such is both pricey and to long - hence wanting a true DX 80-400 - if that makes sense.

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Turn7 said:
70-200 2.8 and 1.7 seems to be the best for optics
I have this combo (on FX) and it's first class. Sharp as a sharp thing and only lose about a stop and a bit with the 1.7 TC.


Turn7

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221 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Tell me if Ive got my maths wrong here....

a 70-200 on a Nikon crop gives:
105-300
with 1.4tc
147-420
with 1.7tc
180-510

My current 70-300 is actually 105-450


Fingers crossed....

Richjam

318 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th March 2017
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https://www.dpreview.com/news/7094553685/sigma-ann... sigma are bringing out a 100-400 F5-6.3 no idea on the price point yet but might be worth a look?

Turn7

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221 months

Sunday 12th March 2017
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Richjam said:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7094553685/sigma-ann... sigma are bringing out a 100-400 F5-6.3 no idea on the price point yet but might be worth a look?
Yeah, I know about that. Theres just something about Sigma that makes me feel like Im buying Hankooks and not Mich Pilot Cup sports, although its probably unfounded these days.

Turn7

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Sunday 16th April 2017
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After many,many hours of reading reviews and general 'net trawling, I believe I have come to a conclusion.

For my use, I think Im going to go with the Nikon 300mm F4 prime and a 1.4 tc and add to to that a 70-200 2.8.

From what I can see, both these lens offer unrivalled clarity and sharpness and got well in both my budget and length requirements.

Opinions chaps ?

Edited by Turn7 on Sunday 16th April 20:09

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Turn7 said:
After many,many hours of reading reviews and general 'net trawling, I believe I have come to a conclusion.

For my use, I think Im going to go with the Nikon F4 prime and a 1.4 tc and add to to that a 70-200 2.8.

From what I can see, both these lens offer unrivalled clarity and sharpness and got well in both my budget and length requirements.

Opinions chaps ?
70-200 2.8 is probably the best lens I've ever owned.

(ETA.. okay the f1.4 50mm is a dream, but you know what I mean)


Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 16th April 19:58

Turn7

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221 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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GetCarter said:
70-200 2.8 is probably the best lens I've ever owned.
Pretty much what everyone says Steve....hence wanting it in my bag...
The prime adds length and the same quality.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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I never know why people overlook the 70-200 F4, its better glass than the 2.8 though its plastic construction makes people feel its lacking in quality, really its not, if you read what people say about the 2.8 which they have accidentally dropped and broken and those who have done the same with the f4 and then put it back in the bag and carried on.... its also half the weight though you lose a little bit of that width the F2.8 has, I (and a few others I know who have it) found it to be more than capable in 99% of the situations you would take the F2.8 in smile

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Turn7 said:
For my use, I think Im going to go with the Nikon 300mm F4 prime.....

Opinions chaps ?
I think that's a great choice. I hope you're going for an A-FS version. Not too heavy, quick to AF, excellent image quality, especially down at f/5.6 which I find is the sweet spot....