Radiator removal

Radiator removal

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MisterTee

Original Poster:

319 posts

109 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I’ve got a very small weep from one of the cores in the radiator and so looking to get it sorted before the Spring.

Will I need to remove the bonnet to get the radiator out, or is this achievable without the need for the bonnet coming off?

I’ve got access to a two post lift if it can be accessed and removed from beneath. I’m just trying to work out how big a job this is.

Cheers

Andy

GreenV8S

30,192 posts

284 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I've seen a couple of different arrangements for the radiator top mounts and fans but the most common one seems to be with the fan in front (upstream) of the rad. With this arrangement the radiator comes out quite easily and could probably be done with the bonnet in situ. You will find access *much* easier if you remove the front indicator lenses and pick the front of the car up about four inches so the bonnet can open vertically, resting on some carpets you put between the bonnet and the ground. (If you don't remove the indicators this will break them, and the originals are no longer available.)

Once you have the bonnet vertical it can be removed and refitted very quickly once you have the knack, although it can be a little intimidating the first time. For goodness sake remove the indicator lenses first, though.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I can get mine out with the bonnet on but open. Bit of a faff getting to the mountings to get them off with the rad but not that bad. If you have access to a ramp then you can open the bonnet further than the stay but you need to be careful it cant go too far or fall back on you! While you have the rad out make sure the mounting rubbers are still there! On mine I also found the rivets that hold the metal sides of the rad had broken loose at one end allowing the rad to move a little inside the frame. Not good! However a radiator specialist fixed it for £25. When I had it out I also back flushed it inside and power washed through the airways in the reverse direction, got more out than I expected.

GreenV8S

30,192 posts

284 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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greymrj said:
power washed through the airways in the reverse direction
Were those delicate fins OK with the power washer? I haven't been brave enough to risk it on mine.

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Yep, can do it with bonnet on...open wider the better

Just the two hose clips (top and bottom) and the top two rad bolts...bottom ones on my S3C are just peg locators that you can pull out...

If your fan is attached to the rad then remember to disconnect...don’t think original ones were, but retrofit ones often bolt through.

...took my rad to local express radios and there local expert sorted it...found weep in cars, plus the main pipes ina and out needed re-braising

wink

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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GreenV8S said:
Were those delicate fins OK with the power washer? I haven't been brave enough to risk it on mine.
Fine so long as you keep jet "square on" to fins which is what you want you blast any crap out.


we are talking hobby pessure washer, not some 2000psi industrial beastie wink




But if it does go wrong.......... clicky

Deeman

1,609 posts

182 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Is there any car widget you don't know of Mike??!

MisterTee

Original Poster:

319 posts

109 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Deeman said:
Is there any car widget you don't know of Mike??!
hehe

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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GreenV8S said:
Were those delicate fins OK with the power washer? I haven't been brave enough to risk it on mine.
Yes, as Mike said, I am talking about my small Karcher , with reasonable care and not right up to the fins. I looked through the rad before and after...quite a difference! There were a few fins which were bent before washing and I carefully straightened them first.

MisterTee

Original Poster:

319 posts

109 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Thanks everyone.

That’s a relief. I had this horrible thought that I would have to take the bonnet off.

I’ve had it up on the lift before with the two front wheels off and the bonnet tilted vertical when I was changing the water pump last year, so will give that a go.

Andy


Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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So much easier with the bonnet off, but it can be done in-situ. Thing is with the bonnet off, you can inspect lots of other bits, clean the chassis up, do a neater job etc. And removing the bonnet isn't hard - only two bolts, as you don't need to faff with the adjusters or anything.

Early cars had two individual 'blades' which clamps the radiator in place (and is therefore easier to remove). The fan is also fixed to the back of the rad in a big GRP cowling.

Later cars (V8S, S3 etc.) had one big three-sided mount, which would need removing. The radiator fan is fixed into it by two long studs that run left to right. I've always removed that first (because I'm normally stripping one down to down the chassis) but thinking about it, I see not reason why you couldn't leave it in place.

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Kitchski said:
So much easier with the bonnet off
Yes I suppose so but totally ott for slipping the rad out. Even without "wide open hinges" the bonnet will usually open a bit further with the front of the car jacked up a little or driven onto some blocks.


Kitchski said:
Later cars (V8S, S3 etc.) had one big three-sided mount, which would need removing.
Frame or mount stays in place, two top bolts out and of course hoses off, rad will lean back and lift out..... literally a five minute job smile



I found these a handy replacement for the grommets the bottom pins on the rad drop into ..... clicky




v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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If you have this type of top bracket then tap washers make good spacers...


Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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phillpot said:
Frame or mount stays in place, two top bolts out and of course hoses off, rad will lean back and lift out..... literally a five minute job smile
Ah, I see what you mean. It's weird, as in all the cars I've taken a rad out on, I'd never noticed that! Makes no difference as I was stripping them right down anyway, but it does make sense. That means the earlier cars are trickier, as they don't have a bolt at the top; they've got pegs top and bottom.

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Every day is a school day....... biggrin

MisterTee

Original Poster:

319 posts

109 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Thanks, mine is an S3, so hopefully a fairly easy job, by the sounds of it.

Andy

MisterTee

Original Poster:

319 posts

109 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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phillpot said:
I found these a handy replacement for the grommets the bottom pins on the rad drop into
Ordered ... thanks!

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Deeman said:
Is there any car widget you don't know of Mike??!
They're actually a bit rubbish Pete, cumbersome and you can't get to the fins near the ends.


These are are my fin combs, much better, imho wink






Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 17th January 21:06