Thinking of buying an S, what budget do i need?

Thinking of buying an S, what budget do i need?

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mjjryan39

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54 posts

71 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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I am not a TVR owner yet......i have a budget of 10k for initial purchase then slowly spending to improve from there. I put a post out on the general TVR page and was advised to write one here as i like the S. Can i afford the V8? If not what is the best alternative? I’m a fairly ok DIY’er but some say don’t mess with the S for mods.....? But i like the idea of supercharging one, can that be done?

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Short version:

£10k won't buy you a good V8S. Possibly a running, drivable project. It'd also buy you a decent S3, or anything before it.

Personally I'd advise to buy solely on what you like the look of, and condition. They're all good fun to drive, so don't get too hung up on the engine. None of the V6s are tunable, though forced induction is normally seen as the way to go (though the gearbox then becomes the weak point).

Unless you want a project on your hands in the future, try to find one with a solid or restored chassis, decent bodywork, and tidy interior. That's the best base for a car you can use and improve along the way, and a mint S1 or S2 will be within budget.

If you go for a project, try to get the very cheapest running car you can. You'll spend a fortune on the rest unless you can do the work yourself.


v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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mjjryan39 said:
I am not a TVR owner yet......i have a budget of 10k for initial purchase then slowly spending to improve from there....
£10k will get you a superb V6 and a reasonable V8S

mjjryan39 said:
.... I’m a fairly ok DIY’er but some say don’t mess with the S for mods.....
"Some" talk out of their collective arredfacees. laugh

mjjryan39 said:
.... But i like the idea of supercharging one, can that be done?
Yes, kits available to super or turbo charge the V8 and probably the V6 as well. Anything can be done with time and money.

It wouldn't make much financial sense to spend £10k on a car only to heavily modify it and end up with a car that might be worth less than what you paid for it. Sounds like you need to have a long think abut your priorities.


Edited by v8s4me on Wednesday 23 May 11:00

GreenV8S

30,191 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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mjjryan39 said:
I like the idea of supercharging one
Because you want to spend time and money tinkering, or because you want to drive a bonkers fast car?

mjjryan39

Original Poster:

54 posts

71 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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probably a bit of both. when your hear about the TVR's V8 or V6 you naturally assume higher performance. so quick cars do interest me.

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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mjjryan39 said:
......so quick cars do interest me.
How about THIS?. Quicker than any 'S' and a lot less trouble laugh

zombeh

693 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Probably around corners, a v8s would be rather faster than that in a straight line though. You'd want the 3.2l version to keep up.

GreenV8S

30,191 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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They're pretty nippy as standard and can be set up to handle well if you are an enthusiastic driver, but there are plenty of modern cars which will keep up with them. If it's something you would want to do as a hobby then don't let me put you off, but if you see the tinkering just as a means to get an inexpensive fast car then I'd advise you to think twice - it's far more cost effective to get a faster standard car. There are plenty of standard TVRs and non-TVRs that will keep up with a well sorted S, even a heavily modified one. The sticker price may be higher, but I think you'll find they may work out cheaper overall. (I say this having spent an absurd amount of time and money on mine.)

Not trying to put you off, just making sure you know what you're getting into.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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GreenV8S said:
They're pretty nippy as standard and can be set up to handle well if you are an enthusiastic driver, but there are plenty of modern cars which will keep up with them. If it's something you would want to do as a hobby then don't let me put you off, but if you see the tinkering just as a means to get an inexpensive fast car then I'd advise you to think twice - it's far more cost effective to get a faster standard car. There are plenty of standard TVRs and non-TVRs that will keep up with a well sorted S, even a heavily modified one. The sticker price may be higher, but I think you'll find they may work out cheaper overall. (I say this having spent an absurd amount of time and money on mine.)

Not trying to put you off, just making sure you know what you're getting into.
Completely agree.

The S isn't really that fast-a-car. The 4.3 V8S is pretty fast in a straight line, but around the bends most cars will dispatch an S with ease. The Chimaera is a much more capable tool, too.

Where the S scores highly (all IMO of course) is how it goes fast, not how fast it goes. Lots of fun, lots of smiles and lots of character. I love mine more than I ever did my Chimaera, despite the fact it's pretty much worse in every way.

The best cars are the ones you love driving, despite their inadequacies. The S scores highly here.

Deeman

1,609 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Kitchski said:
The 4.3 V8S is pretty fast in a straight line

The best cars are the ones you love driving, despite their inadequacies. The S scores highly here.
??? How many 4.3 V8s's are out there? I know of 1 genuine factory version, but are there a lot of modified?

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Deeman said:
??? How many 4.3 V8s's are out there? I know of 1 genuine factory version, but are there a lot of modified?
There are a few. I've driven one with 275bhp (genuine, not TVR figures) and it was pretty formidable in a straight line!

Maffe

479 posts

259 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Kitchski said:
The best cars are the ones you love driving, despite their inadequacies. The S scores highly here.
+1

Just done mayor work on my s3c (well my dad did most of it) and I don't know if I want to look at how much I spent...
The S is insanely fun to drive with all its imperfections, sound and way it communicates to me when I drive it hard.
Our other car, a BMW m235i, is much faster, comfort and handling. Its just well sorted in every way but not even close to as much fun as the S to drive!

So if you want a fast car buy a fast car!
If you want a fun car to drive and like working in the garage buy a S-serie, had mine for 16 years now and not planning to sell it!

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Maffe said:
....So if you want a fast car buy a fast car! If you want a fun car to drive and like working in the garage buy a S-series, had mine for 16 years now and not planning to sell it!
Right on Bro thumbup

I gave up looking at the bills a long time ago laugh

GreenV8S

30,191 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Deeman said:
??? How many 4.3 V8s's are out there? I know of 1 genuine factory version, but are there a lot of modified?
Mine is 4.6 rather than 4.3. As standard with a mild cam (and pre supercharger) it was probably comparable to the tuned 4.3s in outright performance but with the power and torque all happening at lower revs. It was dramatically faster than the original 3.9 even though that had been tuned a bit. The cross bolted 4.6 was an obvious replacement since that was the current RR engine when I needed it. I would be surprised if mine was the only one.

spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Both Greenv8s and I have run high power V8 Ss .. have you had yours on the dyno Peter ? Mine made 355hp at its best. People say the chassis won't take it .. maybe I never drove mine hard enough but I can't say I ever felt it particularly lacking anywhere. The internet is full of people who've never driven a high power S but take delight in criticising its chassis. It's not ideal, but it's not a ditch finder either.

The V6 cars may be or may not be tunable, but certainly you can get 250-280hp from the 4 litre engines for not *that* much money so is the one to go for if you see yourself tinkering in that direction in the future.

Mine was a converted 5 litre and I know of another converted car on carbs, there was one factory 5 litre that I know of (early 290hp chimaera spec) and 2 4.3 factory cars that I know of , there may be more who knows. But if you're thinking of an engine change then going for the 4.6 as peter has is probably your best value

PS greenv8s above is a been there seen it done it kind of S owner, if he says something works or doesn't it's going to be from first hand experience, take note smile

zombeh

693 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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What did you do for driveshafts with the 5 litre?

spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Nothing at all .. only chassis mods were polybushes and adjustable dampers. I put 260mm front discs on and left the rears standard and it was fine.

zombeh

693 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Good, I wasn't looking forward to trying to sort out something stronger when I eventually get around to sticking the 4.6 in mine smile

tileart

156 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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spitfire4v8 said:
.. only chassis mods were polybushes and adjustable dampers. I put 260mm front discs on and left the rears standard and it was fine.
Do you know what the spring ratings are front/back, and your damper settings ? I believe mine are not quite right (the dampers are refurbed adjustable AVO's). Thanks.

spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Ooh now you're asking a lot of my memory haha .. road dampers were protechs with probably something like 300lb/in all round .. track dampers were nitrons with something like 650 front 450 rear ..