Budget quickshift

Budget quickshift

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Fefeu52

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21 posts

1 month

Wednesday 7th November
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Hi all,

As possibly every S-owner, I'm not satisfied by the feeling of my S gear stick. So I think about fitting a quickshift system. I already read the thread on the nice Quaife device modified by Kitchski (Richard) from Southways Automotive to fit our cars. I'm pretty sure this is the best way, but for the moment, I don't want to spend much money in this device.

So I would like to talk about this cheaper way :


(Picture from Burton Power)

I can realise it for free. I found the spacer drawing on a Russian website :


Come from there : https://www.drive2.ru/l/483515736946377422/

I also need 3 hex M8x35 bolts in 12.9 quality (free) and for the 2 little cylindrical spacers, I can use bronze bearing ans modify it (free).

I know that several members on this forum have already use this device : Sebackman posted this picture :



So he replaced the cheaper solution by the Southways's one. And Phillipot also wrote he has the cheaper solution.

Could you please tell me the drawbacks with this solution ? Do you like using it ? Is it worth doing it ? Or I shouldn't wast my time doing it and wait.

Regards

phillpot

14,410 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th November
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Those kits are so cheap it's hardly worth messing around making one, unless you're doing it in works time wink


Because of the TVR dog leg in the lever I found I had to cut the rubber bellows thingy down a bit otherwise I could push down for reverse.


the plus side is, if your gearbox is a bit tired, with a "quickshift" you have even more chance of crunching gears as you beat the synchro's biggrin

Fefeu52

Original Poster:

21 posts

1 month

Wednesday 7th November
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phillpot said:
Those kits are so cheap it's hardly worth messing around making one, unless you're doing it in works time wink
Pass biglaugh

phillpot said:
the plus side is, if your gearbox is a bit tired, with a "quickshift" you have even more chance of crunching gears as you beat the synchro's biggrin
Right, but this point is common to all types of quickshift systems. I'm never brutal with mechanics, I'm not afraid by crushing anything. I don't want to speed-up the gear change, I just don't like the feeling....especially when moving from front (1st, 3rd, 5th) to back (2nd, 4th). I have to lift up the knob (due to circular translation of the gear stick, instead of pure rotation on a regular system). I hope the quickshift system fitment will reduce the feeling ( for want of completely remove it)

mentall

239 posts

65 months

Wednesday 7th November
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On my original shift I was putting my passenger's right eye in danger with my elbow, going from 1st to 2nd. That's the upward rotation you've got, Florian.
Richard's (Kitschki) quickshift is a delight to use: I hope yours is as good.

Do change the nylon saddle on the selector shaft: it won't break the bank, even from BurtonPower, and a new one makes a big difference. I'd love to try a bronze one, though.

Fefeu52

Original Poster:

21 posts

1 month

Wednesday 7th November
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mentall said:
On my original shift I was putting my passenger's right eye in danger with my elbow, going from 1st to 2nd.
laugh That's exactly the same thing for me laugh

mentall said:
Do change the nylon saddle on the selector shaft: it won't break the bank, even from BurtonPower, and a new one makes a big difference. I'd love to try a bronze one, though.
OK. I have read that bronze ones tend to rattle, and made the driver mad.... any opinion on the subject ?
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motomatchless

117 posts

103 months

Wednesday 7th November
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Hi all, I have put the Burton kit, it is quite ok, the gear change is more direct but also a bit harder.
it is easy to fit and strangely the noise from the enoying noise from the gearbox disapeared.

phillpot

14,410 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th November
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Fefeu52 said:
for the 2 little cylindrical spacers, I can use bronze bearing ans modify it (free).
Can't recall where the nylon one goes or what it does?

But, the metal one goes around the shaft and is squeezed in a bit then the "ball" knocked back down a little bit to hold it. I suspect bronze would not tolerate that and would crack?

Fefeu52

Original Poster:

21 posts

1 month

Wednesday 7th November
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phillpot said:
Can't recall where the nylon one goes or what it does?
On the Ford config, the rubber gaiter is hold by steel crimping.



You have to grind it to allow the stick to go lower. After that, the nylon spacer is use to retain the gaiter, 14mm upper.

phillpot said:
But, the metal one goes around the shaft and is squeezed in a bit then the "ball" knocked back down a little bit to hold it. I suspect bronze would not tolerate that and would crack?
You should be right, that may be better to use a steel pipe. OK.

phillpot

14,410 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th November
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Fefeu52 said:
On the Ford config, the rubber gaiter is hold by steel crimping.
You have to grind it to allow the stick to go lower. After that, the nylon spacer is use to retain the gaiter, 14mm upper.
Yes, makes sense now, TVR cut the lever off just above those crimps, hence the nylon spacer doesn't fit and the rubber gaiter needs cutting shorter wink

Garytooms

15 posts

4 months

Thursday 8th November
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Southways Automotive is the way to go, i have 1 fitted to my 1991 S3 2.9 its easy to fit took me 2 hrs start to finish.

phillpot

14,410 posts

118 months

Friday 9th November
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Mine cost fifteen quid, remind me again, how much was yours? ... biggrin



Time or money, depends what you have most of.... scratchchin

Edited by phillpot on Friday 9th November 17:36

Kitchski

5,967 posts

166 months

Friday 9th November
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Some interesting viewpoints.

I actually explored using the insert way back when I was rebuilding my S1. I decided to go with the full rose-jointed lever as from previous experience, the shift action with the adapter insert didn't give the accurate 'feel' I was after. The reverse selection was still a bit on the vague side, and in a couple of the cars I experiences, gear selection itself proved quite tricky.

I made the prototype lever back in 2014 (I think) and couldn't believe the difference. I never actually planned to produce them for anyone else, it was simply as a result of customers sitting in my car and trying it out, then asking me to make more.

Thanks to everyone who bought one. I'll probably do another run soon, though the initial demand has now been settled at least smile

Fefeu52

Original Poster:

21 posts

1 month

Saturday 10th November
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Thanks for all the replies.

I have never wanted to open a battle between pros and cons Southways' quickshift lever. On all Ford T9 accessories sellers, we can find the 2 quickshift devices. As there is a huge price difference between both, I just wanted to know the drawbacks of the cheaper one. I retain that the command is smoother and that the reverse gear selection is easier and more accurate with the complete lever.
Thanks for the saddle changing advice. I will do.

As I previously said, making the spacer won't cost me a penny ..... and is already done :



So I will test and give you my opinion.

phillpot said:
Time or money, depends what you have most of.... scratchchin
I totally agree with that. I don't have much time, but no more money. And as soon as something is done, I start another project, so time is not really a parameter.... if the car is not immobilized.