S1 - How do you remove the bellhousing from engine

[88S1]

Struggling to separate the bellhousing from the engine. Removed all bolts, removed cylinder, Got it about 3/4 inch away, but it just won’t come any more, wiggled, pulled, everything . Am I missing something?????.

Bellhousing will spin round the full 360.

Edited by 88S1 on Thursday 11th July 22:28

[Ceejay73]

Might be a couple of small bolts holding that tin shield to the bell housing at the bottom. Gearbox won't withdraw because the shield cannot pass the flywheel.
Think they are M6 (10mm head).

HTH,
Carl.

[phillpot]

Just give it a damn good pull !


May be a lever, big screwdriver either side will convince it to come off?

[88S1]

Carl.

The bell housing can spin all the way round, so it is totally unbolted and free of the metal plate and engine. The distance at the bottom doesn’t seem as much as at the top so maybe I’ve cocked it and got it jammed, splitting it to 3/4 inch was easy. I’ll get some levers and give it some welly as Phillpot suggests. Just didn’t want to force it if there is a circlip or something I was suppose to remove from the back end etc.

Thanks both. Appreciate your help.

[88S1]

If I can get a bolt and nut in the fixing holes between the housing and the engine, I should be able to wind them out and jack it apart.

how your supposed to change the clutch with the engine in is a mystery. I’ll certainly be putting a new one in regardless of how it looks.

[phillpot]

88S1 said:

how you're supposed to change the clutch with the engine in is a mystery.

Only to be attempted by the brave or is it the foolish?


Something a bit wierd going on with yours, it should just fall apart, maybe rust on the end of the first motion shaft jamming in the spigot bearing?

[Penelope Stopit]

Does the bell housing mate back up to the block ok, have you tried fitting it back in place?

The result from the above operation may speak volumes

Don't force it out just yet as you may regret it

[chiefyo]

Engine and box on the ground with engine resting on sump and sitting level. Trolley jack under gearbox and jack box to primary shaft level as in picture it appears weight of box is resting on it. Then crowbar the two apart

[88S1]

Penelope Stopit said:

Does the bell housing mate back up to the block ok, have you tried fitting it back in place?

The result from the above operation may speak volumes

Don't force it out just yet as you may regret it

No, but it’s on a pallet and a bit wobbly. Aaaagggghhhh

[88S1]

chiefyo said:

Engine and box on the ground with engine resting on sump and sitting level. Trolley jack under gearbox and jack box to primary shaft level as in picture it appears weight of box is resting on it. Then crowbar the two apart

Will give that a shot. Thanks.

[88S1]

88S1 said:

chiefyo said:

Engine and box on the ground with engine resting on sump and sitting level. Trolley jack under gearbox and jack box to primary shaft level as in picture it appears weight of box is resting on it. Then crowbar the two apart

Will give that a shot. Thanks.

It worked, that extra bit of stability sat on the floor, jack at back and a crow bar did the trick. Back on its pallet now. Thanks.

Edited by 88S1 on Friday 12th July 16:31

Edited by 88S1 on Friday 12th July 16:53

[88S1]

The main shaft moves a couple of mm side to side, is that normal or do I need new bearings???

[mrufcs1]

There'll be some movement in it, partly because it hasn't got the support of the flywheel. I have knacked the input shaft bearing before and it had far more that a couple of mm ! That said, you don't want to be dismantling tha car again to take the box back out after you've got it all back together so if it was me I'd be taking it along to my local friendly gearbox man for a coat of looking at while it is out.

The layshaft is also prone to wear if it's been run low of oil in its past. No guesses to why I know that........

[88S1]

mrufcs1 said:

The layshaft is also prone to wear if it's been run low of oil in its past. No guesses to why I know that........

Your right, let the experts have a look at it. There’s 80k on the clock so probably needs doing anyway, and I don’t want to pull it out again when it’s back together.

[Penelope Stopit]

Good news that you got it out

[88S1]

Penelope Stopit said:

Good news that you got it out

It’s easy when you know how, took 2 mins, just having it on flat ground with a jack at the back made a massive difference (and saved a lot of huffing and puffing) opposed to it being on the pallet. Tricks of the trade, worth their weight in gold. I know for next time and re-build. PH saved the day.

[Penelope Stopit]

88S1 said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Good news that you got it out

It’s easy when you know how, took 2 mins, just having it on flat ground with a jack at the back made a massive difference (and saved a lot of huffing and puffing) opposed to it being on the pallet. Tricks of the trade, worth their weight in gold. I know for next time and re-build. PH saved the day.

I had the same problem getting a box back in, a trolley jack under the box made all the difference

Live and learn hey

[88S1]

Yep. I’m contemplating changing the gearbox bearings myself to save a few bob, I’m a time served tool fitter (a long time ago mind) so it’s not beyond my skill set, but never done a car gearbox, not going to do it if it means taking every cog and component out though (like photo), have a million other things to do.

[88S1]

This looks a bit simpler. But will take it to an expert and get a quote to see how much, there’s a guy locally with great reviews.

[88S1]

Ouch.