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I'm hoping that this is not a repeat post, although I'm unconvinced that there must not be a thread somewhere... not according to search though...
Having looked to see whether either of our cars are allowed in to the Ultra LEZ, it seem's that no Diesels are compliant if registered before September 2015.
I'm not completely convinced that is accurate - as I think that my Volvo XC60 that was Registered in March 2015, with the D4 engine was designed to be Euro 6 compliant... Not certain though.
Still - I'm surprised at the number of cars Khan has managed to attack. I had a feeling that it was the older than ten years vehicles.... As it's London it's not too concerning. Plenty of other ways to get around. But if this spreads to other City's without the same reliable transport infrastructure I can see this being a right pain...
Any thoughts?
Having looked to see whether either of our cars are allowed in to the Ultra LEZ, it seem's that no Diesels are compliant if registered before September 2015.
I'm not completely convinced that is accurate - as I think that my Volvo XC60 that was Registered in March 2015, with the D4 engine was designed to be Euro 6 compliant... Not certain though.
Still - I'm surprised at the number of cars Khan has managed to attack. I had a feeling that it was the older than ten years vehicles.... As it's London it's not too concerning. Plenty of other ways to get around. But if this spreads to other City's without the same reliable transport infrastructure I can see this being a right pain...
Any thoughts?
The problem in devolution of power is that it becomes blinkered / very insular - so the Mayor of London is only interested in those who live in London and therefore they have less logical reason to drive in London, they can use public transport - not interested in those outside London who come in - despite the logical knock on effect on businesses in London... So for example I would go up to London a number of times a year for the theatre - we would drive in as public transport outside London (and in our area / at night) is not good - now, we will simply choose a theatre elsewhere -= loss of business to London...
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really?loads of good theatre outside London, including many London shows... onc your inclination to travel to London is reduced, it is amazing how your horizons expand...
the point I am making though is that if travel to London becomes either a higher expense or more inconvenient, those living outside London, will simply not bother, and that will have unintended consequences beyond congestion or pollution...
akirk said:
So for example I would go up to London a number of times a year for the theatre - we would drive in as public transport outside London (and in our area / at night) is not good - now, we will simply choose a theatre elsewhere -= loss of business to London...
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akirk said:
the point I am making though is that if travel to London becomes either a higher expense or more inconvenient, those living outside London, will simply not bother
Well if that means fewer people driving heavily polluting diesels in stop-start traffic in densely populated areas then that's fine. That's the idea. I live here. In recent years there has been a massive increase in people driving private diesels all contributing soot and NOx.
Keep them on open roads and motorways - that's where they are supposed to be. If you want to come into town why don't you just park up and use public transport? Seems to be the sensible way of doing it.
Edited by AC43 on Thursday 4th May 14:35
AC43 said:
Well if that means fewer people driving heavily polluting diesels in stop-start traffic in densely populated areas then that's fine. That's the idea.
I live here. In recent years there has been a massive increase in people driving private diesels all contributing soot and NOx.
Keep them on open roads and motorways - that's where they are supposed to be. If you want to come into town why don't you just park up and use public transport? Seems to be the sensible way of doing it.
What about those of us that live and work in London, and I don't mean central London where the theatres are, I mean in the suburbs which is also be affected by citizen khan's master plan.I live here. In recent years there has been a massive increase in people driving private diesels all contributing soot and NOx.
Keep them on open roads and motorways - that's where they are supposed to be. If you want to come into town why don't you just park up and use public transport? Seems to be the sensible way of doing it.
Edited by AC43 on Thursday 4th May 14:35
chevy55 said:
AC43 said:
Well if that means fewer people driving heavily polluting diesels in stop-start traffic in densely populated areas then that's fine. That's the idea.
I live here. In recent years there has been a massive increase in people driving private diesels all contributing soot and NOx.
Keep them on open roads and motorways - that's where they are supposed to be. If you want to come into town why don't you just park up and use public transport? Seems to be the sensible way of doing it.
What about those of us that live and work in London, and I don't mean central London where the theatres are, I mean in the suburbs which is also be affected by citizen khan's master plan.I live here. In recent years there has been a massive increase in people driving private diesels all contributing soot and NOx.
Keep them on open roads and motorways - that's where they are supposed to be. If you want to come into town why don't you just park up and use public transport? Seems to be the sensible way of doing it.
Edited by AC43 on Thursday 4th May 14:35
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