A610 dual carrigeway at IKEA, 40mph, why?
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I can see the point, a little, at the M1 end. There is no central reservation, no matter whether you are heading away from or towards the M1 there is a bend and a crest at the top of a hill, not to mention the suicide bridge. And heading into Nottingham towards the M1, I can imagine the queues at rush hour too.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley, and having climbed and passed the bend, the crest and the bridge, it is a dead straight, well lit, and excellent visibility. The regular NSL of 70 is just fine, no reason for it not to be. And regardless of whether it is 40, 50, or 70, it's one of the safest places to do more than twice the NSL when it's deserted that I can think of, which makes 40 in the same circumstances seem a bit more than just daft.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley, and having climbed and passed the bend, the crest and the bridge, it is a dead straight, well lit, and excellent visibility. The regular NSL of 70 is just fine, no reason for it not to be. And regardless of whether it is 40, 50, or 70, it's one of the safest places to do more than twice the NSL when it's deserted that I can think of, which makes 40 in the same circumstances seem a bit more than just daft.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Balmoral Green said:
I can see the point, a little, at the M1 end.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
Other then temp/variable limits....can a road have one speed limit on one side, and another on t'other?This was, however, after some temporary road alterations, and I think they forgot to change the signs...
I was hoping to get a ticket and opt for Court, but it wasn't to be...
It's a little disturbing that traffic police didn't bring this to the notice of the relevant authority.
mybrainhurts said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Balmoral Green said:
I can see the point, a little, at the M1 end.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
Other then temp/variable limits....can a road have one speed limit on one side, and another on t'other?This was, however, after some temporary road alterations, and I think they forgot to change the signs...
I was hoping to get a ticket and opt for Court, but it wasn't to be...
It's a little disturbing that traffic police didn't bring this to the notice of the relevant authority.
Edited by Funkateer on Friday 29th January 07:44
Funkateer said:
mybrainhurts said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Balmoral Green said:
I can see the point, a little, at the M1 end.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
Other then temp/variable limits....can a road have one speed limit on one side, and another on t'other?This was, however, after some temporary road alterations, and I think they forgot to change the signs...
I was hoping to get a ticket and opt for Court, but it wasn't to be...
It's a little disturbing that traffic police didn't bring this to the notice of the relevant authority.
Edited by Funkateer on Friday 29th January 07:44
I haven't driven this road for a couple of years, as it has taken me that long to build the last thing I bought from Ikea, but doesn't this strech of road also have a bizarre 35mph or 45mph limit nearer Ripley? It was as if a commitee decided on a half-way house speed limit. I hadn't seen that anywhere else.
asn163 said:
I have to agree it is ridiculous the 40 and 50 mph limits between Jcn 26 and Ikea.
Also annoying further down the A610 towards Codnor where in the old days the "Woodlinkin" bypass was a true dual carriageway and was "interesting" until they stuck the 50mph limit on it and all the white paint.
sorry that was us that stopped it being a dual carriageway Also annoying further down the A610 towards Codnor where in the old days the "Woodlinkin" bypass was a true dual carriageway and was "interesting" until they stuck the 50mph limit on it and all the white paint.
was not driving but a friend was racing a porsche in his skyline cam to the last sharp left hander didn't quite make it and landed in ormonde fields golf clubs hedge after having sailed over the opposite carriageway!
i would like to point out that i do not think such actions on public highways are big or clever, but show what will more than likely happen when you give a 19 year old daddys nissan!
would also like to point out how can the council state we need the 40mph zone but still be okay with the unbelievably dangerous giveway onto the single carriageway part of the a610 just before the long left hander.
my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Funkateer said:
mybrainhurts said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Balmoral Green said:
I can see the point, a little, at the M1 end.
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
But when heading away from the M1 towards Ripley,
Other then temp/variable limits....can a road have one speed limit on one side, and another on t'other?This was, however, after some temporary road alterations, and I think they forgot to change the signs...
I was hoping to get a ticket and opt for Court, but it wasn't to be...
It's a little disturbing that traffic police didn't bring this to the notice of the relevant authority.
Edited by Funkateer on Friday 29th January 07:44
kazste said:
would also like to point out how can the council state we need the 40mph zone but still be okay with the unbelievably dangerous giveway onto the single carriageway part of the a610 just before the long left hander.
my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
I hammer along there to but always have braking as an option or a lane switch for backup.my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
Funkateer said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
[quote=FunkateerI know of two such roads with permanent split limits in the E. Mids area, both dual carriageways. One's 40/50 (A453), the other's 70/50 (A50).
quote]
Aha...which stretches of said roads? I'll try 'em out!
A453 where it joins the modern bit of the ring road just north of Clifton, A50 by M1 J24 quote]
Aha...which stretches of said roads? I'll try 'em out!
There are regular road closures on this stretch of road because of accidents and a high percentage of them are fatalities.
There are a lot of places where side roads and farm exits drop straight onto the A453 without a feed-in and at least one place I know where you could crest a blind hill to find a car/tractor has just pulled out in front of you and you have nowhere to go other than bridge parapets and a 30ft drop
It really is a deadly piece of road and I wouldn't want anyone getting themselves killed in my neck of the woods when I could could have warned them.
Boosted LS1 said:
kazste said:
would also like to point out how can the council state we need the 40mph zone but still be okay with the unbelievably dangerous giveway onto the single carriageway part of the a610 just before the long left hander.
my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
I hammer along there to but always have braking as an option or a lane switch for backup.my money is on not one of us who use that road regularly having had someone pull out right in front of us! (and then give you the winker sign when you have to overtake them as braking is no longer an option!
i am talking about the idiots who sit there not moving and then pull out when ou are alongside, i know how to brake and adjust my speed, i just dont know how to avoid someone who waits then pulls out.
When I come over the hill I'm in the offsdide lane at up to 100 leptons on a good day 
. I'm already watching for anybody merging in from the left and as I catch up ready to overtake them I'm watching for them pulling in front of me. I allow braking time in case of a worst case scenario but could also switch left/nearside if I had to. I used to ride bikes so you get used to looking for an escape option.
Once you're on the straight approaching the M1 then it's obvious that somebody will pull across in front of you at 40, you have to expect that given that's the speed limit there and the levely of numptiness on our roads.
. I'm already watching for anybody merging in from the left and as I catch up ready to overtake them I'm watching for them pulling in front of me. I allow braking time in case of a worst case scenario but could also switch left/nearside if I had to. I used to ride bikes so you get used to looking for an escape option.Once you're on the straight approaching the M1 then it's obvious that somebody will pull across in front of you at 40, you have to expect that given that's the speed limit there and the levely of numptiness on our roads.
Barreti said:
Funkateer said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
[quote=FunkateerI know of two such roads with permanent split limits in the E. Mids area, both dual carriageways. One's 40/50 (A453), the other's 70/50 (A50).
quote]
Aha...which stretches of said roads? I'll try 'em out!
A453 where it joins the modern bit of the ring road just north of Clifton, A50 by M1 J24 quote]
Aha...which stretches of said roads? I'll try 'em out!
There are regular road closures on this stretch of road because of accidents and a high percentage of them are fatalities.
There are a lot of places where side roads and farm exits drop straight onto the A453 without a feed-in and at least one place I know where you could crest a blind hill to find a car/tractor has just pulled out in front of you and you have nowhere to go other than bridge parapets and a 30ft drop
It really is a deadly piece of road and I wouldn't want anyone getting themselves killed in my neck of the woods when I could could have warned them.
Sorry but I am talking about the section after the dual carriageway splits into two Coming from the m1 towards ripley one up to island for Eastwood. The second straight on towards codnor. The giveway opposite warburtons is what I am talking about and there is NO escape route if they are stationary and then decide to move.
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