A9 average speed cameras
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Look at the positioning of the cameras. They always seem to be in the start/finish area of single carriageway zones suggesting to me that they don't monitor the dual carriageway sections.
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
GoneAnon said:
Look at the positioning of the cameras. They always seem to be in the start/finish area of single carriageway zones suggesting to me that they don't monitor the dual carriageway sections.
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
I haven't been done yet for tanking on (in a safe and considerate manner) through the dual-carriageway sections north of Perth. But the A9 between Dunblane and Perth *is* covered, and is all the more dangerous for it, as people spend more time looking at their speedometers than looking at their surroundings.The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
Halmyre said:
GoneAnon said:
Look at the positioning of the cameras. They always seem to be in the start/finish area of single carriageway zones suggesting to me that they don't monitor the dual carriageway sections.
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
I haven't been done yet for tanking on (in a safe and considerate manner) through the dual-carriageway sections north of Perth. But the A9 between Dunblane and Perth *is* covered, and is all the more dangerous for it, as people spend more time looking at their speedometers than looking at their surroundings.The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
jshell said:
Halmyre said:
GoneAnon said:
Look at the positioning of the cameras. They always seem to be in the start/finish area of single carriageway zones suggesting to me that they don't monitor the dual carriageway sections.
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
I haven't been done yet for tanking on (in a safe and considerate manner) through the dual-carriageway sections north of Perth. But the A9 between Dunblane and Perth *is* covered, and is all the more dangerous for it, as people spend more time looking at their speedometers than looking at their surroundings.The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
Halmyre said:
jshell said:
Halmyre said:
GoneAnon said:
Look at the positioning of the cameras. They always seem to be in the start/finish area of single carriageway zones suggesting to me that they don't monitor the dual carriageway sections.
The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
I haven't been done yet for tanking on (in a safe and considerate manner) through the dual-carriageway sections north of Perth. But the A9 between Dunblane and Perth *is* covered, and is all the more dangerous for it, as people spend more time looking at their speedometers than looking at their surroundings.The Hootsman agrees but I haven't tested the theory!
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...
I had the pleasure of travelling down these roads on saturday and Tuesday. Seriously people are so stupid its unreal.
THe same people who do 35/40 normally start doing 95 in the dual carraige way sections, they treat the average speed camera like the instant speed camera and slam on their brakes when they see one. What part of AVERAGE speed cameras do they not understand!
Its like smacking your head on a brick wall. The first time I travelled up on saturday, I overtook twice and VERY quickly realized it was a total waste of it - sat at 40 near enough the whole way behind other people doing the same.
It was killing me slowly inside.
THe same people who do 35/40 normally start doing 95 in the dual carraige way sections, they treat the average speed camera like the instant speed camera and slam on their brakes when they see one. What part of AVERAGE speed cameras do they not understand!
Its like smacking your head on a brick wall. The first time I travelled up on saturday, I overtook twice and VERY quickly realized it was a total waste of it - sat at 40 near enough the whole way behind other people doing the same.
It was killing me slowly inside.
caelite said:
s2kjock said:
cailete said:
Ive done it on my motorbike before and NEVER AGAIN. If I need to take the bike up to Perth again Im taking the plates off and risking getting caught by actual traffic enforcement. Bike riding in blind spots without the ability to maintain a delta speed of 5-10mph is terrifying. Also the stereotypical accuracy of bike speedos as well as the ease to push it over 70. The speedo on myGPZ bounces by about 10mph at 70 so I normally only have a vague idea of how fast im going. Which is fine with physical enforcement or gatso where I can slow down for a few seconds but average speed cameras are a nightmare.
Are there rear facing cameras on the stretch between Stirling and Perth then?Edited by s2kjock on Wednesday 21st October 22:44
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Having not driven on the A9 for a few years I was faced with it on Sunday, I witnessed the worst driving I have seen in a long time... 99.9 of is the amount of utter morons who have no idea how the convergence zones at the end of the dual carriageway sections work.
Honestly it would have been quicker and safer on the drive home if they had no dual carriage ways and a 50 average for the whole dam road... I've come to think of these convergence areas more as bottlenecks of stupidity.
Honestly it would have been quicker and safer on the drive home if they had no dual carriage ways and a 50 average for the whole dam road... I've come to think of these convergence areas more as bottlenecks of stupidity.
footsoldier said:
As of this moment, there are only two cameras in each single carriageway section, and the speed is measured between each two, and doesn't carry forward. (This applies to A9 North of Perth only). There are no cameras on the DC sections.
I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Can anyone solve a wee (hypothetical, absolutely nothing to do with my trip to Aviemore this weekend) argument between my brother and me.I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Edited by footsoldier on Friday 23 October 21:00
If I travelled at a 60mph average on a single carriageway section (with camera), then 90mph on a dual section without cameras),then 60 again on the next single carriageway section (with cameras) could the cameras on the single sections be used to show that my average over the dual section/single sections combined was in excess of 70?
My brother says yes, I say (and hope) no.
brrapp said:
footsoldier said:
As of this moment, there are only two cameras in each single carriageway section, and the speed is measured between each two, and doesn't carry forward. (This applies to A9 North of Perth only). There are no cameras on the DC sections.
I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Can anyone solve a wee (hypothetical, absolutely nothing to do with my trip to Aviemore this weekend) argument between my brother and me.I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Edited by footsoldier on Friday 23 October 21:00
If I travelled at a 60mph average on a single carriageway section (with camera), then 90mph on a dual section without cameras),then 60 again on the next single carriageway section (with cameras) could the cameras on the single sections be used to show that my average over the dual section/single sections combined was in excess of 70?
My brother says yes, I say (and hope) no.
On the duels I would be more worried about the mobile vans the on the duels especially south of Pitlochry.
G
boardinscotland said:
brrapp said:
footsoldier said:
As of this moment, there are only two cameras in each single carriageway section, and the speed is measured between each two, and doesn't carry forward. (This applies to A9 North of Perth only). There are no cameras on the DC sections.
I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Can anyone solve a wee (hypothetical, absolutely nothing to do with my trip to Aviemore this weekend) argument between my brother and me.I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Edited by footsoldier on Friday 23 October 21:00
If I travelled at a 60mph average on a single carriageway section (with camera), then 90mph on a dual section without cameras),then 60 again on the next single carriageway section (with cameras) could the cameras on the single sections be used to show that my average over the dual section/single sections combined was in excess of 70?
My brother says yes, I say (and hope) no.
On the duels I would be more worried about the mobile vans the on the duels especially south of Pitlochry.
G
Here's another question - if you've got four speed cameras A, B, C and D, then A and B are paired, and C and D are paired, but are B and C also paired?
brrapp said:
footsoldier said:
As of this moment, there are only two cameras in each single carriageway section, and the speed is measured between each two, and doesn't carry forward. (This applies to A9 North of Perth only). There are no cameras on the DC sections.
I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Can anyone solve a wee (hypothetical, absolutely nothing to do with my trip to Aviemore this weekend) argument between my brother and me.I have conducted numerous 'real world' tests of this, and have no points....
(Sometimes there are normal mobile cameras on DC sections, but not average speed)
Edited by footsoldier on Friday 23 October 21:00
If I travelled at a 60mph average on a single carriageway section (with camera), then 90mph on a dual section without cameras),then 60 again on the next single carriageway section (with cameras) could the cameras on the single sections be used to show that my average over the dual section/single sections combined was in excess of 70?
My brother says yes, I say (and hope) no.
Back on the A9 again at the weekend and I noticed something I hadn't before. On the first average camera section north of Perth, there are actually two short sections of 'dual carriageway' near 'Taste Perthshire' and near the Stanley turnoff. As these will have a 70mph limit, and are between the two cameras, how does a conviction on this stretch work with the two different limits in place?
I know the sections only have a single lane in each direction but as far as I'm aware, they are still classed as dual carriageways as the lanes are divided by a physical barrier.
I know the sections only have a single lane in each direction but as far as I'm aware, they are still classed as dual carriageways as the lanes are divided by a physical barrier.
brrapp said:
Back on the A9 again at the weekend and I noticed something I hadn't before. On the first average camera section north of Perth, there are actually two short sections of 'dual carriageway' near 'Taste Perthshire' and near the Stanley turnoff. As these will have a 70mph limit, and are between the two cameras, how does a conviction on this stretch work with the two different limits in place?
I know the sections only have a single lane in each direction but as far as I'm aware, they are still classed as dual carriageways as the lanes are divided by a physical barrier.
A good observation. Given there would be no way to calculate an average in the 60 sections I would say that no conviction would be possible.Does anyone anyone actually know of someone who has been caught by the average speed cameras on the A9?I know the sections only have a single lane in each direction but as far as I'm aware, they are still classed as dual carriageways as the lanes are divided by a physical barrier.
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