Arnold gets another one

Arnold gets another one

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MissChief

5,947 posts

135 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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The Evans Halshaw motorstore at Craigshill Livingston is now sitting empty and has been for over a week now. It used to be a Renault dealer many years ago. I’d noticed the stock levels getting lower recently then drove past one day and it was empty.

cas20

164 posts

77 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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some updates...

Hardie Suzuki is closing soon.
Citreon Coatbridge now service only
Evans Halshaw Car Stores now closed
Mitsuibishi is back in Dumfries- owned by same family as before

Patch1875

4,117 posts

99 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Leven Motor Group gone into administration.

colin79666

1,030 posts

80 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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I wonder if Belmont might be in a position to take Suzuki back in Edinburgh. Hopefully it doesn’t just become another one of Arnold’s. They seemed a bit desperate for business during a recent enquiry about servicing.

Not much cash flow this time of year at a dealer. Leven seem to have bet big and expanded too fast (though acquisition) to make it profitable. I feel sorry for their staff, hopefully someone else will snap them up.

Edited by colin79666 on Wednesday 8th January 21:25

cas20

164 posts

77 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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colin79666 said:
I wonder if Belmont might be in a position to take Suzuki back in Edinburgh. Hopefully it doesn’t just become another one of Arnold’s. They seemed a bit desperate for business during a recent enquiry about servicing.

Not much cash flow this time of year at a dealer. Leven seem to have bet big and expanded too fast (though acquisition) to make it profitable. I feel sorry for their staff, hopefully someone else will snap them up.

Edited by colin79666 on Wednesday 8th January 21:25
JM Group still own the buildings so everything is possible I guess.

pixelmix

111 posts

75 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Disappointing news for Leven. They seemed likely a sensibly sized small Scottish group so hopefully someone can take on the profitable parts of the group.

I suspect that they aren't shifting many new Lotus cars at present (the £40k+ tax and age of the range presumably hurting sales) and the number of Aston Martin sales (or lack thereof) is well documented. I would hope there is room for the Lotus dealer to be taken on though, since it is the only one in Scotland.

Volvo presumably helped balance out the business a bit for Murray but obviously that was not an option for Leven.

s2kjock

1,101 posts

114 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Shame indeed about Leven as they seemed to be making a reasonable stab at Lotus customer experience in my experience, although perhaps the fact that I have not changed my car for 7 years indicates the problem they have!

Murrays used to be one of the busiest Lotus franchises in the UK IIRC, and seemed to turnover a fair bit of used stuff to tide them along.

I'm not sure how much servicing/repair business they lost to Craig Moncrieff, but it can't have helped with regular cashflow - I suspect I will start using him anyway for servicing etc (been looking for an excuse to be honest).

Loads of Aston's around Edinburgh, but RRs are like hens teeth and there even seem to be fewer Loti around nowadays - interesting who will go for for these niche brands. Lotus customers are certainly very focussed on the "dealer relationship" (why Murrays seemed to do so well), and I can think of a couple of potential suitors that customers would run a mile from.

S2red

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2,412 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Odd when I think about it, AM's are fairly regular sight in Glasgow but cant think when I last saw a late model RR


MissChief

5,947 posts

135 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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YouTalkinToMe said:
I read they represent Rolls Royce not just for the whole of Scotland, but include Northern Ireland too, from just one base in Edinburgh. Which is understandable considering how many they will likely sell in that area per year.

Regarding the high end brands, I can only see the likes of Sytner (through Graypaul) taking them on, and that is obviously without knowing what their relationship with those franchises are like. They already have Ferrari/Lambo/Bentley/Maserati in Edinburgh, and whilst you could argue that adding Aston/Rolls/Lotus/Caterham into that may be too many brands, surely it's better to take them in as part of the same dealer group?

I dont think they'll have any issue with Kia and Suzuki brands, and whilst they fit for Selkirk I doubt anyone will take them on, perhaps Border Motors Group (not Border Cars, which also went to the wall recently..)
There’s the old Porsche section of the building at Newcraighall sitting empty. Perhaps a refurbishment and they might take over Aston Martin?

stichill99

597 posts

148 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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The Porsche section is going to be Ferrari I believe!

alangla

3,159 posts

148 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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Patch1875 said:
Leven Motor Group gone into administration.
Selkirk operation closed - still in negotiation over the Edinburgh sites - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-bu...

S2red

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2,412 posts

158 months

pixelmix

111 posts

75 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Any news on Lotus?

Lazy journalism as usual - it omits to mention what has happened to that part of the business.

pixelmix

111 posts

75 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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To answer my own question, the BBC piece is a copy of the Leonard Curtis announcement - https://www.leonardcurtis.co.uk/sale-of-leven-cars... and whilst Grange have been pretty quick in updating their list of dealerships - https://www.grange.co.uk/dealerships to include Aston Martin Edinburgh, they clearly aren't taking on Lotus.

No clearer on what is happening to the Lotus staff and dealership then.

750turbo

5,948 posts

191 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Shameless bump.

Will be interesting to see what happens when/if we ever get out of this nightmare!

Expansion? Contraction?

BMR

869 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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Might go back to having smaller sites not the multiple franchise motor stores.

anonymous-user

21 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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I see a lot of dealers, including AC, pushing the whole virtual sales and delivery. They have no other real option at the moment, but I'd be surprised if anyone is actually buying that way.

S2red

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2,412 posts

158 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Sad in a way seeing all the cars just sitting there like the ones on AC Bishopbriggs near me brake disks getting rustier by the day and who knows what else

7-8 weeks now and not moved

Though interesting spotting which manufacturers disks rust the most :-)


750turbo

5,948 posts

191 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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powerstruggle said:
I see a lot of dealers, including AC, pushing the whole virtual sales and delivery. They have no other real option at the moment, but I'd be surprised if anyone is actually buying that way.
Absolutely.

Company I work for are pushing massive resources developing some of the direct customer interaction to online, with a view that this ststorm is going to take a long time to clear up.

Being old school it would not suit me, but the younger car buyers of today? Well not a lot will not care possibly.

Clarkedontgo

186 posts

26 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Looks like Ingrams seat in kilmarnock has gone , no cars or signs