MOT In Glasgow That's Not Strict.
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Hey guys im needing to sell my Audi soon and a fresh mot might help me get a better price. There is no issues as far as i know but im reluctant to get an mot incase it throws up something unexpected or the tester puts down advisories that devalue the car. Is there such a place and if so please let me know.
I am in financial ruin since i lost my job in April due to covid and im trying to minimise and extra costs.
I am in financial ruin since i lost my job in April due to covid and im trying to minimise and extra costs.
Used to be the case years ago you could get a pre MOT that was basically an MOT without the paperwork! Obviously can’t do that now as they need to input details before starting etc.
But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
Craigie said:
Used to be the case years ago you could get a pre MOT that was basically an MOT without the paperwork! Obviously can’t do that now as they need to input details before starting etc.
But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
Yeah i remember the pre mot checks something like that would give me an idea. I could ask a local mot garage to see if they would do the full checks and report back. But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
Craigie said:
Used to be the case years ago you could get a pre MOT that was basically an MOT without the paperwork! Obviously can’t do that now as they need to input details before starting etc.
But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
Dont see why they cant do this , as long as whoever is checking the car over is a MOT tester . Can also check the emissions like on any car in workshop . May cause you a little extra if you then have to get them to log on and carry out a official test if report is favourable . If not and too many defects , nothing logged officially . Cant see why it would be a problem , did it many times over the years when a MOT examiner and aware of the logging on procedures nowadays . But surely any decent mechanic could do all the checks that an MOT would do apart from maybe emissions?
r.s.logan said:
Dont see why they cant do this , as long as whoever is checking the car over is a MOT tester . Can also check the emissions like on any car in workshop . May cause you a little extra if you then have to get them to log on and carry out a official test if report is favourable . If not and too many defects , nothing logged officially . Cant see why it would be a problem , did it many times over the years when a MOT examiner and aware of the logging on procedures nowadays .
Many thanks for your reply it does make sense and i think i should give this a try. There is a small mot garage not far from me so ill pop along and have a chat with them and see what they suggest. mysticbertie said:
There is no issues as far as i know but im reluctant to get an mot incase it throws up something unexpected or the tester puts down advisories that devalue the car.
You don't do work on cars do you? The old "no issues" but scared to have a 45min basic inspection suggests to me you ARE HIDING SOMETHING!
Honestly do people really think an MOT is a strict test designed to fail as many cars as possible,if anything its the opposite It's a piss poor test easily influenced by the test conductors own standards. There will be plenty of cars that get a pass with no advisories from one tester and another tester will fail it/list advisories.
Best bet is to use a council run MOT station that doesn't do repairs as they have no incentive to deliberately fail a car to get more work..
stevemcs said:
I never understand why people are so obsessed with MOT advisories, i'd rather see some on an MOT as clean MOT's can mean they are iffy. You could also have a pre MOT check but bulbs can fail at any time so it can still fail.
Some garages go to town with advisories and it makes you wonder if they are trying to get more work.aka_kerrly said:
You don't do work on cars do you? The old "no issues" but scared to have a 45min basic inspection suggests to me you ARE HIDING SOMETHING!
Honestly do people really think an MOT is a strict test designed to fail as many cars as possible,if anything its the opposite It's a piss poor test easily influenced by the test conductors own standards. There will be plenty of cars that get a pass with no advisories from one tester and another tester will fail it/list advisories.
Best bet is to use a council run MOT station that doesn't do repairs as they have no incentive to deliberately fail a car to get more work..
Thanks for suggesting the council run centres i used them in the past for that very reason.
Ignore that poster , he hasn't a clue about MOTs . Having been a MOT tester for over 25 years and owned a test station as part of my garage set up , he is talking b
ks when he says the Mot is not strict . Properly carried out it is . Only a small section of regulations are down to the testers opinion whether it is a pass or not , Most of the test is covered by predetermined parameters , like brake readings , emissions , limitations etc and cant be passed if they dont conform .No legitimate , properly run Mot testing station will risk losing their licence and the large investment in setting up and maintaining it by passing a car that should have failed . Plenty of well maintained cars sail through the test and are not " iffy " . Any car that had only a faulty bulb , I would replace it and charge the customer rather than fail it and never had a customer complain or question doing so . Only if it involved a bit of stripping down to access the bulb would I do otherwise All stations are subject to spot checks and quality control records . You are perfectly justified in being wary of getting possible advisories as many people think that the MOT is a guarantee that the car is perfect and covers everything . Far from it , I've lost count the number of times I have heard customers say " it's just passed an MOT " for something totally irrelevant . In your case they would use any advisories noted to try and knock down your asking price . Best of luck in selling your car .
ks when he says the Mot is not strict . Properly carried out it is . Only a small section of regulations are down to the testers opinion whether it is a pass or not , Most of the test is covered by predetermined parameters , like brake readings , emissions , limitations etc and cant be passed if they dont conform .No legitimate , properly run Mot testing station will risk losing their licence and the large investment in setting up and maintaining it by passing a car that should have failed . Plenty of well maintained cars sail through the test and are not " iffy " . Any car that had only a faulty bulb , I would replace it and charge the customer rather than fail it and never had a customer complain or question doing so . Only if it involved a bit of stripping down to access the bulb would I do otherwise All stations are subject to spot checks and quality control records . You are perfectly justified in being wary of getting possible advisories as many people think that the MOT is a guarantee that the car is perfect and covers everything . Far from it , I've lost count the number of times I have heard customers say " it's just passed an MOT " for something totally irrelevant . In your case they would use any advisories noted to try and knock down your asking price . Best of luck in selling your car .Edited by r.s.logan on Thursday 15th October 22:23
r.s.logan said:
Ignore that poster , he hasn't a clue about MOTs . Having been a MOT tester for over 25 years and owned a test station as part of my garage set up , he is talking bks when he says the Mot is not strict . Properly carried out it is . Only a small section of regulations are down to the testers opinion whether it is a pass or not ,
This is laughable, so on the one hand you say the MOT is strict, but then add "properly carried out it is" so you know full well that not every MOT is carried out to the exact same standards.ks when he says the Mot is not strict . Properly carried out it is . Only a small section of regulations are down to the testers opinion whether it is a pass or not , Edited by r.s.logan on Thursday 15th October 22:23
There are clearly parts of the MOT that are purely down to the testers opinion, for example brake/steering/suspension components, the difference between is that bush worn , or is it excessively worn? One person might say a bit of movement is acceptable, others will say a little more movement is still fine others may not want even a wiggle.
Have you measured a bush to see if play is below 2mm on a pin <12mm or less than 10% on a pin 25mm or over, would you ever have a hope in hell of doing that as part of your thorough 45min whilst also measuring the brake pads & discs or do you trust your 25years experience to say that an amount of movement feels like approximately 2mm? Would this be a pass/acceptable because at that exact moment in time it meets the specified criteria or would you worry that within a thousand miles it could be 2.5mm of play or wonder how it may look next year with a additional 15 thousand miles on it?
I'm not trying to be some clever **** here or suggesting that all MOT testers are rubbish, far from it, only confirming exactly what the OP wants to hear which is that yes there can be MOTs where certainly things could be missed or not noted as a advisory. Plus there is nothing stopping him speaking to a tester and asking for things not to be noted as an advisories if you get the work done which seems fairly common practice.
Now that the OP has come back saying I know nothing about how much he knows about cars, well all I can wonder is why are you asking the internet for advice on a slack MOT rather than asking , "could a MOT tester please comment on this part on my car" or "how hard/expensive is it to replace the XYZ on a Audi" or maybe even is it worth spending £XXX amount when I intend to try and sell for £XXXX
Good luck with the sale
aka_kerrly said:
This is laughable, so on the one hand you say the MOT is strict, but then add "properly carried out it is" so you know full well that not every MOT is carried out to the exact same standards.
There are clearly parts of the MOT that are purely down to the testers opinion, for example brake/steering/suspension components, the difference between is that bush worn , or is it excessively worn? One person might say a bit of movement is acceptable, others will say a little more movement is still fine others may not want even a wiggle.
Have you measured a bush to see if play is below 2mm on a pin <12mm or less than 10% on a pin 25mm or over, would you ever have a hope in hell of doing that as part of your thorough 45min whilst also measuring the brake pads & discs or do you trust your 25years experience to say that an amount of movement feels like approximately 2mm? Would this be a pass/acceptable because at that exact moment in time it meets the specified criteria or would you worry that within a thousand miles it could be 2.5mm of play or wonder how it may look next year with a additional 15 thousand miles on it?
I'm not trying to be some clever **** here or suggesting that all MOT testers are rubbish, far from it, only confirming exactly what the OP wants to hear which is that yes there can be MOTs where certainly things could be missed or not noted as a advisory. Plus there is nothing stopping him speaking to a tester and asking for things not to be noted as an advisories if you get the work done which seems fairly common practice.
Now that the OP has come back saying I know nothing about how much he knows about cars, well all I can wonder is why are you asking the internet for advice on a slack MOT rather than asking , "could a MOT tester please comment on this part on my car" or "how hard/expensive is it to replace the XYZ on a Audi" or maybe even is it worth spending £XXX amount when I intend to try and sell for £XXXX
Good luck with the sale
Stick to what you know , obviously not this subject . With your really stupid comments , especially about measuring a bush , Ha HaHa . You are not allowed to dismantle anything on a test and can ascertain whether it is excessively worn or not without dismantling . . I can assure you , after a lifetime in running dealerships , workshops and my own garage , prior to retiring due to ill health , i am very qualified in assessing what is a pass or not . What are your qualifications in the motor industry ? You are only digging a bigger hole for yourself . It's not a who can piss the highest contest , which you will lose ' Life is too short , especially with this Covid raging again . Every man to his own trade and expertise . I only look in and post on here very rarely as I most of my time is spent on a far larger car forum where I have ben a Mod / Admin fort the last 14 yrs . Best wishes and have a nice weekend .
There are clearly parts of the MOT that are purely down to the testers opinion, for example brake/steering/suspension components, the difference between is that bush worn , or is it excessively worn? One person might say a bit of movement is acceptable, others will say a little more movement is still fine others may not want even a wiggle.
Have you measured a bush to see if play is below 2mm on a pin <12mm or less than 10% on a pin 25mm or over, would you ever have a hope in hell of doing that as part of your thorough 45min whilst also measuring the brake pads & discs or do you trust your 25years experience to say that an amount of movement feels like approximately 2mm? Would this be a pass/acceptable because at that exact moment in time it meets the specified criteria or would you worry that within a thousand miles it could be 2.5mm of play or wonder how it may look next year with a additional 15 thousand miles on it?
I'm not trying to be some clever **** here or suggesting that all MOT testers are rubbish, far from it, only confirming exactly what the OP wants to hear which is that yes there can be MOTs where certainly things could be missed or not noted as a advisory. Plus there is nothing stopping him speaking to a tester and asking for things not to be noted as an advisories if you get the work done which seems fairly common practice.
Now that the OP has come back saying I know nothing about how much he knows about cars, well all I can wonder is why are you asking the internet for advice on a slack MOT rather than asking , "could a MOT tester please comment on this part on my car" or "how hard/expensive is it to replace the XYZ on a Audi" or maybe even is it worth spending £XXX amount when I intend to try and sell for £XXXX
Good luck with the sale
Stick to what you know , obviously not this subject . With your really stupid comments , especially about measuring a bush , Ha HaHa . You are not allowed to dismantle anything on a test and can ascertain whether it is excessively worn or not without dismantling . . I can assure you , after a lifetime in running dealerships , workshops and my own garage , prior to retiring due to ill health , i am very qualified in assessing what is a pass or not . What are your qualifications in the motor industry ? You are only digging a bigger hole for yourself . It's not a who can piss the highest contest , which you will lose ' Life is too short , especially with this Covid raging again . Every man to his own trade and expertise . I only look in and post on here very rarely as I most of my time is spent on a far larger car forum where I have ben a Mod / Admin fort the last 14 yrs . Best wishes and have a nice weekend .
Edited by r.s.logan on Friday 16th October 12:39
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