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mrzigazaga said:
They do not have all the Wedges records.. if any...i know this for a fact, unless they have recently acquired them?....i also know people who have been told their Wedge is a particular build number but after contacting someone who actually had the build records for a fair amount of Wedges and later cars that were rescued from a skip when the factory closed...however if DVLA are swallowing it then happy days...
I would concur, as I indicated in this thread. I am not a club member, so may not be getting to the correct people, I have tried a few and there appears to be no record of my car, as said previously it just exists in the DVLA system.My VIN states H build year 1987 B month February.
My registered date on the V5C states 15/04/1988.
So on this basis I suppose I could try for the build date, but would that need to be collaborated? That is part of the problem.
I still have a ways to go so not too fussed at the mo.
I can see things changing at some point in any case.
BlueWedgy said:
I would concur, as I indicated in this thread. I am not a club member, so may not be getting to the correct people, I have tried a few and there appears to be no record of my car, as said previously it just exists in the DVLA system.
My VIN states H build year 1987 B month February.
My registered date on the V5C states 15/04/1988.
So on this basis I suppose I could try for the build date, but would that need to be collaborated? That is part of the problem.
I still have a ways to go so not too fussed at the mo.
I can see things changing at some point in any case.
Sounds like you will have a wait of 3 years, i had to get rid of my 87 (E) 350i...but bought back my ole 280i which is now 41 years old, MOT, ULEZ, Tax exempt..LEZ exempt but was not when i first owned her...apparently the exemption runs out for electric vehicles in less than a year...one big con!!My VIN states H build year 1987 B month February.
My registered date on the V5C states 15/04/1988.
So on this basis I suppose I could try for the build date, but would that need to be collaborated? That is part of the problem.
I still have a ways to go so not too fussed at the mo.
I can see things changing at some point in any case.
It was a big faff getting the historical status, if DVLA was to recognise as they do motorcycles the ethanol conversion which are actually cheaper than the Gov. giving people 3.5k off a new EV with a ball & chain of 30k....instead of £1500 for a conversion....
Edited by mrzigazaga on Thursday 17th July 14:18
BlueWedgy said:
mrzigazaga said:
They do not have all the Wedges records.. if any...i know this for a fact, unless they have recently acquired them?....i also know people who have been told their Wedge is a particular build number but after contacting someone who actually had the build records for a fair amount of Wedges and later cars that were rescued from a skip when the factory closed...however if DVLA are swallowing it then happy days...
I would concur, as I indicated in this thread. I am not a club member, so may not be getting to the correct people, I have tried a few and there appears to be no record of my car, as said previously it just exists in the DVLA system.My VIN states H build year 1987 B month February.
My registered date on the V5C states 15/04/1988.
So on this basis I suppose I could try for the build date, but would that need to be collaborated? That is part of the problem.
I still have a ways to go so not too fussed at the mo.
I can see things changing at some point in any case.
Model Registrar
Mervyn Larner
Tel: 01256 880075
Forum username: 'mlarner'
email: registrar@tvrcc.com
https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/committee.html
Hi Thanks for the details that was a name bantered about in a previous post...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I may drop him a line, as apart from the official build date, it would be good for the provenance of the car.
Cheers
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I may drop him a line, as apart from the official build date, it would be good for the provenance of the car.
Cheers
I'm not sure whether under GDPR the DVLA will still supply details of previous owners (I know, a different topic to the verification of build date etc.)... it used to be the case that a fiver would get you photocopies of every document they had on your car: changes of owner, colour, registration etc.
By that route I discovered that my car had featured with a different reg. number in the car club mag back in the 90s; I turned up unannounced at a previous owner's workplace in East Kilbride (I was on a job at Rolls-Royce, his freight company was just round the corner) and he told his secretary to hold all calls and get the kettle on while we talked Wedge
As the 390 had been his company car for several years he was able to rummage in a filing cabinet and hand me two box files of receipts, service logs etc. covering tens of thousands of miles, mostly up and down motorways. No expense spared!
He once put it into Haughins in Barrow for a service and they gave him a 350SX as a loan car... he said apart from the supercharger whistle (that he found annoying) there was little to choose between it and the 390.
By that route I discovered that my car had featured with a different reg. number in the car club mag back in the 90s; I turned up unannounced at a previous owner's workplace in East Kilbride (I was on a job at Rolls-Royce, his freight company was just round the corner) and he told his secretary to hold all calls and get the kettle on while we talked Wedge
As the 390 had been his company car for several years he was able to rummage in a filing cabinet and hand me two box files of receipts, service logs etc. covering tens of thousands of miles, mostly up and down motorways. No expense spared!
He once put it into Haughins in Barrow for a service and they gave him a 350SX as a loan car... he said apart from the supercharger whistle (that he found annoying) there was little to choose between it and the 390.
Edited by Wedg1e on Saturday 19th July 01:57
I think you are correct, GDPR has scuppered that DVLA route I think it is still offered, but not worth the while as the documents are redacted to a point of being useless.
I have contacted Mervyn, who has replied, and said he will look into once I have supplied some other information, and will be able to supply a build certificate, which is a start I suppose.
Another document to add to the folder I have created in my ownership.
I have contacted Mervyn, who has replied, and said he will look into once I have supplied some other information, and will be able to supply a build certificate, which is a start I suppose.
Another document to add to the folder I have created in my ownership.
Edited by BlueWedgy on Saturday 19th July 08:41
I bought my current bike at a salvage auction, it didn't come with any spare keys or documents and the panniers were missing.
The previous owner had left an insurance certificate in the topbox and his name was unusual enough that I was able to track him down via 192.com and an online telephone directory.
He told me he'd sent all the spare keys, bike docs etc. to the insurers so I rang them and they posted the whole lot to me, including the previous V5.
On the front page of the V5 they'd redacted the owner's details with black marker pen... but failed to observe they were repeated on page 2!
The previous owner had left an insurance certificate in the topbox and his name was unusual enough that I was able to track him down via 192.com and an online telephone directory.
He told me he'd sent all the spare keys, bike docs etc. to the insurers so I rang them and they posted the whole lot to me, including the previous V5.
On the front page of the V5 they'd redacted the owner's details with black marker pen... but failed to observe they were repeated on page 2!
Boxhiller said:
Interesting. I must've been lucky then, that my car is still included in the "wedges existing" records list. I'm not a Club member either so I looked up who does what on their site and info below is what I saw. Maybe he can tell us how many are missing from his records. To supply a proper certificate it is a free service for Club members and asks for a charity donation if you're not.
Model Registrar
Mervyn Larner
Tel: 01256 880075
?Forum username: 'mlarner'
email: registrar@tvrcc.com
https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/committee.html
After a few backwards and forwards. It appears I will have to become a member or make a charitable donation, as you mention.Model Registrar
Mervyn Larner
Tel: 01256 880075
?Forum username: 'mlarner'
email: registrar@tvrcc.com
https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/committee.html
Charitable donation's are already made in honour of a family member to local Hospice. As I am retired and a poor early pensioner and with the car some years off for it's 40th birthday, looks like this was a bust as well, for the time being.
As pointed out previously the DVLA will have the manufactured date from the VIN, so perhaps a conversation will be required when the time is right, to discuss manufactured date "V" registered date?
Can you please confirm if the data supplied matches that of the VIN (V5C) build date?
and what does the information consist of? is it just a club endorsed birth certificate for want of a better definition?
Edited by BlueWedgy on Tuesday 22 July 11:41
BlueWedgy said:
Boxhiller said:
Interesting. I must've been lucky then, that my car is still included in the "wedges existing" records list. I'm not a Club member either so I looked up who does what on their site and info below is what I saw. Maybe he can tell us how many are missing from his records. To supply a proper certificate it is a free service for Club members and asks for a charity donation if you're not.
Model Registrar
Mervyn Larner
Tel: 01256 880075
?Forum username: 'mlarner'
email: registrar@tvrcc.com
https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/committee.html
After a few backwards and forwards. It appears I will have to become a member or make a charitable donation, as you mention.Model Registrar
Mervyn Larner
Tel: 01256 880075
?Forum username: 'mlarner'
email: registrar@tvrcc.com
https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/committee.html
Charitable donation's are already made in honour of a family member to local Hospice. As I am retired and a poor early pensioner and with the car some years off for it's 40th birthday, looks like this was a bust as well, for the time being.
As pointed out previously the DVLA will have the manufactured date from the VIN, so perhaps a conversation will be required when the time is right, to discuss manufactured date "V" registered date?
Can you please confirm if the data supplied matches that of the VIN (V5C) build date?
and what does the information consist of? is it just a club endorsed birth certificate for want of a better definition?
Edited by BlueWedgy on Tuesday 22 July 11:41
As far as mine is concerned I was sent two identical build certificates (one to send to DVLA and an extra one for my records) and are on TVRCC headed paper with an embossed stamp. My car's info lists the model, chassis number, engine type + size and number. The precise paint colour, interior trim description and roof colour. In-build month and year date, the initial dealer and exact dealer delivery date plus the car reg number and reg date. Also a statement confirming the above info is taken from TVR Engineering Ltd's records now in the TVRCC's possession. Signed and dated by the registrar. It's TVR so it wouldn't surprise me if some cars' listed info was less comprehensive.
The DVLA will have the date of first reg but will their average bod automatically know how to work out a TVR build date from the chassis number? Surely it's just another big number to them which needs the official confirmation certificate to tell them what's what.
Boxhiller said:
My donation was much cheaper than the cost of a Club membership. Speak to Mervyn on the phone and explain your situation. I'm assuming the full details of your car do actually exist on their records then - has he confirmed as much? While you're at it maybe you could ask how many Wedges are missing?
As far as mine is concerned I was sent two identical build certificates (one to send to DVLA and an extra one for my records) and are on TVRCC headed paper with an embossed stamp. My car's info lists the model, chassis number, engine type + size and number. The precise paint colour, interior trim description and roof colour. In-build month and year date, the initial dealer and exact dealer delivery date plus the car reg number and reg date. Also a statement confirming the above info is taken from TVR Engineering Ltd's records now in the TVRCC's possession. Signed and dated by the registrar. It's TVR so it wouldn't surprise me if some cars' listed info was less comprehensive.
The DVLA will have the date of first reg but will their average bod automatically know how to work out a TVR build date from the chassis number? Surely it's just another big number to them which needs the official confirmation certificate to tell them what's what.
My build sheet had exactly the same details as yours (minus hood colour as fhc).As far as mine is concerned I was sent two identical build certificates (one to send to DVLA and an extra one for my records) and are on TVRCC headed paper with an embossed stamp. My car's info lists the model, chassis number, engine type + size and number. The precise paint colour, interior trim description and roof colour. In-build month and year date, the initial dealer and exact dealer delivery date plus the car reg number and reg date. Also a statement confirming the above info is taken from TVR Engineering Ltd's records now in the TVRCC's possession. Signed and dated by the registrar. It's TVR so it wouldn't surprise me if some cars' listed info was less comprehensive.
The DVLA will have the date of first reg but will their average bod automatically know how to work out a TVR build date from the chassis number? Surely it's just another big number to them which needs the official confirmation certificate to tell them what's what.
When I spoke to a pretty helpful guy at the DVLA he admitted that their records were poor as although my car was registered early Jan 1985 they had the build date as 31st Dec 1985 which is obviously incorrect but I believe typical of their records of that period.
Anyway they accepted the TVRCC build sheet information and my car is jow classed as historic so all ended well and saved me best part of 400 quid in rfl.
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Anyway they accepted the TVRCC build sheet information and my car is jow classed as historic so all ended well and saved me best part of 400 quid in rfl.
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Well it appears the build date was October 1987, the dealer delivery date being 25 October 1987. So sat in the dealers for 7 months?
This makes a big difference come 40 years, if it is still in place at that point.
Interestingly the original colour was Ivory, not the blue as is now.
Still on the original engine though
Anyway they accepted the TVRCC build sheet information and my car is jow classed as historic so all ended well and saved me best part of 400 quid in rfl.
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Well it appears the build date was October 1987, the dealer delivery date being 25 October 1987. So sat in the dealers for 7 months?
This makes a big difference come 40 years, if it is still in place at that point.
Interestingly the original colour was Ivory, not the blue as is now.
Still on the original engine though
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