Roundabouts on the NDR

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baconsarney

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8,547 posts

94 months

Tuesday 3rd July
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Used it about three times now, roundabouts are in my opinion rubbish, badly designed from a lane point of view and very very tight.... drove it yesterday taking the rents from Rackheath up to Wells for fish and chips... commented to pops that they weren't the best, then discovered today i'm not alone on this and there have been a number of accidents... council (obviously) blames drivers saying they're driving too fast. Real shame....

Anyone else think the same? (or not) smile

JKING

668 posts

95 months

Tuesday 3rd July
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Yep I agree, rubbish design

V10 SPM

335 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd July
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The other day there were two cars that had crashed independently onto the central island on the roundabout to nowhere by the airport. The lane layout is lethal for being cut-up and run off the road.

Fastpedeller

2,156 posts

79 months

Tuesday 3rd July
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baconsarney said:
Used it about three times now, roundabouts are in my opinion rubbish, badly designed from a lane point of view and very very tight.... drove it yesterday taking the rents from Rackheath up to Wells for fish and chips... commented to pops that they weren't the best, then discovered today i'm not alone on this and there have been a number of accidents... council (obviously) blames drivers saying they're driving too fast. Real shame....

Anyone else think the same? (or not) smile
Tell your angst to the Council )or maybe Police as well), also EDP (Archant Newspaper, which you must know as you're local). EDP lap it up and love rattling the Council's cage!

fast eddys

1,099 posts

134 months

Wednesday 4th July
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I have been crossing it on the North Walsham roundabout every day to my workshop every day whilst it was being constructed and since it opened proper and have seen countless cars stuck on the roundabout and signs flattened, Have also seen and heard similar on some of the other roundabouts. Bad signage, angles wrong and no lane arrows. Some people do not have common sense though and are using completely the wrong lanes ie using the rignt late on entry and then cutting across all three lanes to go straight on. Very poor design and complaints all over social media and elsewhere, but the council will not admit they have got it very wrong as usual

Eddy
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Simpo Two

69,706 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th July
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It may be a half-baked attempt at 'traffic calming' - ie placing obstacles in the road which make it more hazardous.

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,237 posts

117 months

Wednesday 4th July
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Anglia News mentioned it last night.* Improvements are to be made to two RABs.



  • oops on Anglia this am and reported again just now at 2245hrs
Edited by Mrs Muttleysnoop on Wednesday 4th July 22:49

bomster

71 posts

45 months

Thursday 5th July
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Agreed. Drove up to Wroxham last week and was shocked at how unnecessarily tight some of the roundabouts are.

Konan

1,291 posts

79 months

Thursday 5th July
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They're not so bad if you go around them properly, but the design of the bigger ones just exacerbates the habbit about 90% of the population has of cutting stright across lanes.

I do like the dutch roundabouts that add raised sections to seperate the lanes and guide people around them.

I've modified the highway code with a red line to match UK standards wink




V10 SPM

335 posts

184 months

Thursday 5th July
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Konan said:
They're not so bad if you go around them properly, but the design of the bigger ones just exacerbates the habbit about 90% of the population has of cutting stright across lanes.

I do like the dutch roundabouts that add raised sections to seperate the lanes and guide people around them.

I've modified the highway code with a red line to match UK standards wink



Now show what happens when there are some with 3 lanes, some with 2 lanes, some left lanes are left turn only, some left lanes are for straight ahead, some start as 2 lanes and suddenly part way way a 3rd lane appears. Chaos. Watch both mirrors like a hawk or else you will be the filling in a car sandwich.

Konan

1,291 posts

79 months

Thursday 5th July
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V10 SPM said:
Now show what happens when there are some with 3 lanes, some with 2 lanes, some left lanes are left turn only, some left lanes are for straight ahead, some start as 2 lanes and suddenly part way way a 3rd lane appears. Chaos. Watch both mirrors like a hawk or else you will be the filling in a car sandwich.
I can only go so far with Microsoft Paint.

Simpo Two

69,706 posts

198 months

Thursday 5th July
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Konan said:
I can only go so far with Microsoft Paint.
lol. But these 'council planner' numpties need to do something to get their salaries and pensions.
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bomster

71 posts

45 months

Friday 6th July
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Konan said:
They're not so bad if you go around them properly, but the design of the bigger ones just exacerbates the habbit about 90% of the population has of cutting stright across lanes.

I do like the dutch roundabouts that add raised sections to seperate the lanes and guide people around them.

I've modified the highway code with a red line to match UK standards wink



I am guilty of this, but only ever when the roundabout is clear of other cars... surely that's not an issue? Just allows me to take the roundabout faster (less fuel, brake wear, tyres etc)...

woodytype S

622 posts

170 months

Sunday 8th July
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Its called the racing line

Solocle

793 posts

17 months

Sunday 8th July
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The number of times though that you're alongside somebody an a r'bout, you're turning right, and they start veering towards the racing line. ranting It becomes easier to stick back behind their back end, even if they're an old biddy going around across at 5mph. Would like to see mobile cameras catching people for inappropriate straightlining though!

Cledus Snow

1,822 posts

121 months

Monday 9th July
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I've been using the NDR to get to work everyday since it opened. The people who struggle with the roundabouts are the same people who struggle with driving generally. If everyone could be observant and can use their indicators correctly it would help.

I think the main issue now is that the EDP has started running frequent stories about how dangerous it is and people are trying to get themselves into trouble.

FunkyNige

6,286 posts

208 months

Monday 9th July
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Konan said:
They're not so bad if you go around them properly, but the design of the bigger ones just exacerbates the habbit about 90% of the population has of cutting stright across lanes.

I do like the dutch roundabouts that add raised sections to seperate the lanes and guide people around them.

I've modified the highway code with a red line to match UK standards wink



I don't understand why we didn't get the normal 2 lane roundabouts, what's the advantage of having 3 lanes? Certainly makes them more difficult to get onto as you never know which way people are heading!
Also no idea why they don't have countdown boards warning they are coming up, I did hear it's something to do with the category of the road but there are certain things you expect to see on the roads, and I would expect countdown boards coming up to a roundabout on a 70mph dual carriageway!

Zed 44

1,023 posts

89 months

Monday 9th July
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I went on the NDR once to get on the A11 and was no impressed. Since the I used the inner ring road or straight through town.

herbialfa

1,453 posts

135 months

Tuesday 10th July
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Another crash on there today at the Rackheath roundabout!

woodytype S

622 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th July
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woodytype S said:
Its called the racing line
Or prats that cant keep in the lanes on a roundabout