Police Looking for Modified Exhausts in Chelmsford
Discussion
This whole issue is very subjective but could be put to a better use with a bit of thought and application from the BiB.
The area near where I live suffers from a lot "boy racers" blatting about every Friday and Saturday night, sometimes into the wee small hours without interruption. Clearly most of these cars have a modified exhaust and most have many other modifications as well when you actually see them. Now, if the BiB use these new guidelines to pull these cars over for a check they will also use the ANPR database to ensure the car is insured, taxed, MOT's etc. A simple check here to see if any of the modifications on the car have been declared on the insurance documents will reveal if the car is actually insured or not. If the modifications have not been declared then the insurance is invalid and the car can be impounded on the spot and retained until it is put back to standard or suitable insurance is obtained that includes the modifications. The technology to check this is already available and cars where insurers could wriggle out of a claim would be taken off the road.
The area near where I live suffers from a lot "boy racers" blatting about every Friday and Saturday night, sometimes into the wee small hours without interruption. Clearly most of these cars have a modified exhaust and most have many other modifications as well when you actually see them. Now, if the BiB use these new guidelines to pull these cars over for a check they will also use the ANPR database to ensure the car is insured, taxed, MOT's etc. A simple check here to see if any of the modifications on the car have been declared on the insurance documents will reveal if the car is actually insured or not. If the modifications have not been declared then the insurance is invalid and the car can be impounded on the spot and retained until it is put back to standard or suitable insurance is obtained that includes the modifications. The technology to check this is already available and cars where insurers could wriggle out of a claim would be taken off the road.
I live in north london on a quiet suburban road, not far from the high street but far enough not to hear most of the noise made there on friday and saturday nights. Until someone decides to cruise down the road with their 24" sub blaring out so much bass that it shakes the house and always wakes up my 2 year old son.
I have complained at the local neighbourhood watch meetings to the officer in charge of my area and he says "there is nothing we can do about it". With no apology to anyone who likes massive ice systems, but this is 100 times more anti social than driving down an A road with an open exhaust.
I have complained at the local neighbourhood watch meetings to the officer in charge of my area and he says "there is nothing we can do about it". With no apology to anyone who likes massive ice systems, but this is 100 times more anti social than driving down an A road with an open exhaust.
Personally, i think they should crush the s
tbox oversize exhaust brigade heaps on the spot.
Usually connected to underpowered heaps driven by ignorant tts. Whats one of the crappiest sounds there is? A flat 4, no music at all. And no, your car doesn't look cool with a drainpipe out the back, it just identifies you as a dhead.
tbox oversize exhaust brigade heaps on the spot.Usually connected to underpowered heaps driven by ignorant t
ts. Whats one of the crappiest sounds there is? A flat 4, no music at all. And no, your car doesn't look cool with a drainpipe out the back, it just identifies you as a dhead.roofer said:
Whats one of the crappiest sounds there is? A flat 4, no music at all.
Really?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE-a-j00hw
I think that many would disagree with you on that
ETA Assuming you are referring to a straight 4 and not a Flat 4 (Scooby?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2StnOBxfnw
Edited by VHPD on Thursday 23 August 05:04
roofer said:
the Scooby sounds like an elephant farting in a drum, and worse with a chav drainpipe.
Got to agree with that, their sound does nothing for me what so ever. To me there's no tune, just an in your face blahhhhhhhhhh. It all just sounds flat and manufactured like a cheap boy band on autotune....even comes with the obligatory crackles.
The escort on the other hand I can listen to all day long....Pavarotti if you will.
The only thing ,they are not oversize,and they are replacement exhausts,original's are not available for a lot of the older models,Ferrari's are inheritantly noisey from production,355's have a bypass built which opens at 3.5k anyway,I dont think the Plod are after these sort of vehicles,its the modified Saxo's/Corsa's,however,I may be put right by someone,
ARAF said:
roofer said:
Personally, i think they should crush the stbox oversize exhaust brigade heaps on the spot.
That'll go down well, when they stop a Ferrari with a Capristo on it. tbox oversize exhaust brigade heaps on the spot.Squiggs said:
I wish they'd come and test the 4x4 mud-plugger that's down my road!
It wakes the whole neighbourhood as he leaves at 4:30 in the morning
I'm not sure he realises that the exhaust needs to be connected to the manifold
My Missis has just reported this vehicle to the police (how he's not been pulled yet heaven only knows)It wakes the whole neighbourhood as he leaves at 4:30 in the morning
I'm not sure he realises that the exhaust needs to be connected to the manifold
He doesn't rev it or race up the road .. in fact he does completely the opposite (I would say he gets into third at walking pace and 4th at running pace) to try and keep it quiet, but despite his best efforts as it goes past we can't hear the TV or hold a conversation and if you happen to be outside you can still here it when it's about a mile or two away.
We're not kill joys .... I quite like the sound of a car sounding powerful through its exhaust tone - but this old 4x4 thing is just so f@cking loud - it's like having the noise of Big Foot driving round the community!!!!
Cars required to pass VOSA IVA test are required to have exhaust noise below 99 db at 2/3rds revs at which peak power is made, many race tracks require less typically 95db drive past.
I would argue with plod if there db limit was less than the VOSA IVA requirement which is endorsed by the minister for transport by issuing a MAC (Ministers Approval Certificate) which is then handed to DVLA for registration and a V5
Remember the test should be done in a specific way (I would suggest like they do at a VOSA test station) at a specific rpm ( about 4000rpm) with no walls or other vehicles to reflect off.
I think this action is a scare tactic and not ultimately enforceable, if they test at 110 db then your probably bang to rights
82db most will fail, db scale is not linier so 101 db is twice as loud as 100db
I would argue with plod if there db limit was less than the VOSA IVA requirement which is endorsed by the minister for transport by issuing a MAC (Ministers Approval Certificate) which is then handed to DVLA for registration and a V5
Remember the test should be done in a specific way (I would suggest like they do at a VOSA test station) at a specific rpm ( about 4000rpm) with no walls or other vehicles to reflect off.
I think this action is a scare tactic and not ultimately enforceable, if they test at 110 db then your probably bang to rights
82db most will fail, db scale is not linier so 101 db is twice as loud as 100db
Edited by PaulKemp on Sunday 16th September 13:59
I actually like the sound of a flat four, - just as much as I used to love standing in the Forest with my dad as a young kid listening to the DCOE bark of the rally cars. (Funny how my first car had sidedrafts).
BUT, there comes a point where music, no matter how sweet it sounds becomes noise, cos its too loud. I like music - NOT noise.
BUT, there comes a point where music, no matter how sweet it sounds becomes noise, cos its too loud. I like music - NOT noise.
DBA tests are meaningless if they are not taken with the engine 'under load' i.e. on a rolling road or with the car accelerating hard on a 'drive past' - the latter is a flawed method (i.e. what gear is selected - is the pedal down to the floor - with more powerful cars are the wheels spinning - tyre noise/background noise on poor road surfaces etc etc) the former method in a controlled enviroment with every vehicle tested identically can be the only accurate and comparative way of testing. IF any of us are 'pulled' by the police we must make sure that we voice our doubts about the validity of any hand held testing equipment used and that when cautioned by 'plod' that 'doubt' is recorded as evidence so that rather than take the option of paying a fixed penalty let the case go to court and be hopefully thrown out on 'technicalities'
Hol said:
I actually like the sound of a flat four, - just as much as I used to love standing in the Forest with my dad as a young kid listening to the DCOE bark of the rally cars. (Funny how my first car had sidedrafts).
BUT, there comes a point where music, no matter how sweet it sounds becomes noise, cos its too loud. I like music - NOT noise.
They're quite rare though, off the top of my head I can't think of many cars that have had a flat four fitted.BUT, there comes a point where music, no matter how sweet it sounds becomes noise, cos its too loud. I like music - NOT noise.
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