Meadows Roundabout Improvements.

Meadows Roundabout Improvements.

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Trevatanus

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11,122 posts

150 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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So, apparently, the Meadows Roundabout is to be reconfigured, it has been talked about for ages, but I have yet to see any concrete plans, and considering the chaos that I am sure the 21 months of roadworks will cause, starting in two and a half months, I had to dig around to find the attached.
http://www.enterprisem3.org.uk/uploads/140bbca5602...

Anyone else aware of this?
It would appear that part of the plan involves making the A30 bypass the roundabout, which is no bad thing, and I have also heard that the road which heads onto the roundabout, running between the petrol station and Next is to close.

Anyone else know anything more?

AlexRS2782

8,043 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I can't wait to do my shopping at Tesco / M&S / Sainsbury's once the works start - that should be fun frown

Until now, there doesn't seem to have been anything clear outlined for public consumption, and based on the estimated start date of late this year, or early 2016, it doesn't look like anything probably will be. Although at least we can be sure of a couple of years of traffic hell in that area.

Even more so considering the M3 corridor works still have another year plus until they're fully completed, I can't wait to see what happens when all the traffic spills off after one of the many regular accidents in the roadworks zone and straight into a massive slow moving roadwork zone.

I noticed loads of bumph in that report about improved cycle lanes, bus lanes, etc, and a general sway towards encouraging people not to use their car and instead use public transport, but that's not too surprising in the current climate I guess.

Loads of management in words as well to keep the councillors & politicians happy too hehe I particularly liked "Step-Up Town" "PEARS" and the business quote of "Happier staff means a happier business" vomit

Also where are all these new jobs, that will evidently exist, going to be created given the current layout of industrial parks, lack of parking for some of them, etc?

Matthen

1,292 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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AlexRS2782 said:
I can't wait to do my shopping at Tesco / M&S / Sainsbury's once the works start - that should be fun frown

Until now, there doesn't seem to have been anything clear outlined for public consumption, and based on the estimated start date of late this year, or early 2016, it doesn't look like anything probably will be. Although at least we can be sure of a couple of years of traffic hell in that area.

Even more so considering the M3 corridor works still have another year plus until they're fully completed, I can't wait to see what happens when all the traffic spills off after one of the many regular accidents in the roadworks zone and straight into a massive slow moving roadwork zone.

I noticed loads of bumph in that report about improved cycle lanes, bus lanes, etc, and a general sway towards encouraging people not to use their car and instead use public transport, but that's not too surprising in the current climate I guess.

Loads of management in words as well to keep the councillors & politicians happy too hehe I particularly liked "Step-Up Town" "PEARS" and the business quote of "Happier staff means a happier business" vomit

Also where are all these new jobs, that will evidently exist, going to be created given the current layout of industrial parks, lack of parking for some of them, etc?
Of course that's the idea! I suspect gross traffic flow around the roundabout will decrease after this, in the same way it has at all the other roundabouts that have been tampered with. Be nice if they'd provided us with an actual map style plan. Be easier to work out what they're going to do.

Frimley111R

15,650 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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21 months - fking pisstake! It's one large roundabout.

Trevatanus

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11,122 posts

150 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Frimley111R said:
21 months - fking pisstake! It's one large roundabout.
I actually had a conversation with a lady a couple of weeks ago on one of the goverment helplines. I called to the number on the signs by the side of the road to find out when the roadworks at the a329(m) / M4 would finish.
She basically said that everything takes so much longer in this country because of "elf and safetly". A project in France, would generally be between 25 and 50% quicker.

Paul v8

756 posts

165 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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I heard main priority was for bus lanes round the roundabout .if like junc 11 m4 where you never see a bus use them .

Also if it takes them 7 weeks to change over 6 sets of lights in sandhurst will prob take 3 yrs to do this roundabout

If anything cut down the trees and open it up be clearer and safer and put some yellow square boxes in to help dopey drivers

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Frimley111R said:
21 months - fking pisstake! It's one large roundabout.
Exactly - it only took 1 year to build a relatively small roundabout on the A3095 for Broadmoor access, so 21 months is probably as quick as the f******s can manage!

After all we aren't quite half-way through the planned 2 years for making the M3 a "Smart" (not my choice of adjective for such a crazy idea) Motorway!

I think it must be a national competition for each local authority to make using its roads as miserable as possible in the hope drivers go somewhere else, but as they all seem to be doing it going elsewhere is no less miserable!

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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There will be nothing SMART about the M3 so as long as its used by dozy fk wit drivers
that cannot stop using their hand held phone, sat nav in the centre of screen on floodlite mode.
Cannot grasp that if you are leaving at the next exit you need to be in lane 1 not lane 4.
And the increased morons who cannot replace a defective head lamp or get them set up correctly
and think using fog lights because one of the headlamps has failed is acceptable.

I have some very useful back road routes which means I can get from M25 to Bagshoit whilst avoiding the M3
and all those who sail upon it ...

Undirection

467 posts

121 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Trevatanus said:
I actually had a conversation with a lady a couple of weeks ago on one of the goverment helplines. I called to the number on the signs by the side of the road to find out when the roadworks at the a329(m) / M4 would finish.
She basically said that everything takes so much longer in this country because of "elf and safetly". A project in France, would generally be between 25 and 50% quicker.
Sounds like bullst to me. It just seems the whole industry is in full on pisstake mode and no-one can do anything about it.

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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SVTRick said:
There will be nothing SMART about the M3 so as long as its used by dozy fk wit drivers
that cannot stop using their hand held phone, sat nav in the centre of screen on floodlite mode.
Cannot grasp that if you are leaving at the next exit you need to be in lane 1 not lane 4.
And the increased morons who cannot replace a defective head lamp or get them set up correctly
and think using fog lights because one of the headlamps has failed is acceptable.

I have some very useful back road routes which means I can get from M25 to Bagshoit whilst avoiding the M3
and all those who sail upon it ...
I think I know the ones you mean - partly runs parallel to the M3 near Chobham I expect. Don't want to give too much away or it may get busy! laugh

Trevatanus

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11,122 posts

150 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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It would seem they are delayed:

Just receieved this:

"Thank you for your enquiry requesting an update on the major roadworks at the junction between the A331 and A30, also known as the Meadows Gyratory. I am afraid to say that there have been a number of delays that have pushed the scheme back.
A report about the progress of both major schemes within Camberley is being presented to the Surrey Heath Local Area Committee at the upcoming meeting. A copy of this report can be found here. The report should be able to answer the majority of your questions.
I am sorry for the delay in responding, but I trust that the information is of use. "


http://mycouncil.surreycc.gov.uk/documents/s26449/...

What amused me most with the response, was the URL in his letter, which is below, the url above is ammended

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/938054/building-i... Camberley TC petition response FINAL.pdf

Show's what gets done in council offices

smile



AlexRS2782

8,043 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Nice to see they have finally taken note of a residents comments / observations about the bus lane on the A30 and the large number of morons that refuse to drive in it outside of the operational hours hence causing the queues.

Paul v8

756 posts

165 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Good it's noted but will never probably get rid of it ,personally would change back of next to two route .long term try to connect Owlsmoor bottom of foresters way over to a30 Kings ride area .

Just make lanes clearer amount of near misses I see and have had on roundabout , change junc by aldi


AlexRS2782

8,043 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Paul v8 said:
Good it's noted but will never probably get rid of it ,personally would change back of next to two route .long term try to connect Owlsmoor bottom of foresters way over to a30 Kings ride area .

Just make lanes clearer amount of near misses I see and have had on roundabout , change junc by aldi
You're right - they'll probably try and find some reasoning to make it a permanent bus lane and prevent anyone from driving in it banghead even though Hants have successfully pulled a few of theirs recently such as the one near Farnborough Gate.

Mind you, the more people that refuse to use it, means for a quicker trip in that direction hehe Well, so long as you avoid a couple of the sink holes that have developed over the last couple of years frown I've even noticed the odd bus driving out of the bus lane to purposely avoid them.

Kinky

39,554 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Frimley111R said:
21 months - fking pisstake! It's one large roundabout.
Just like the one on the A322/Coral Reef eek

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,122 posts

150 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Paul v8 said:
long term try to connect Owlsmoor bottom of foresters way over to a30 Kings ride area .
Indeed... or make the road behind Next 2 way ( as I assume it was once)

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Kinky said:
Just like the one on the A322/Coral Reef eek
The Queen's Roundabout an the A325 has taken almost of long - and it's a lot smaller than the Meadows Roundabout.

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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Trevatanus said:
Indeed... or make the road behind Next 2 way ( as I assume it was once)
Takes me back!

Tank Road as it is called was indeed 2 way in the mid-80s, because Next, Tesco, M & S, the Meadows roundabout and the dual-carriageway weren't there!

So Tank Road onto Yorktown Road was the only way to get to Sandhurst, and to get to Crowthorne you had to go past Kings DIY store then turn right onto Crowthorne Road.

But I think going back to that would make journey times a bit longer!

Trevatanus

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Wednesday 29th November 2017
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silverfoxcc

7,689 posts

145 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Go on whats the difference from now?