Meadows Roundabout Roadworks are coming... Be afraid.
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SVTRick said:
Well lets hope they don't come into contact with live electrical cables
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/at-le...
Or get injested into a Vacuum Excavator
http://www.ppconstructionsafety.com/newsdesk/2015/...
And try not to run over workers with the road sweeper.
http://www.ppconstructionsafety.com/newsdesk/2018/...
Why? https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/at-le...
Or get injested into a Vacuum Excavator
http://www.ppconstructionsafety.com/newsdesk/2015/...
And try not to run over workers with the road sweeper.
http://www.ppconstructionsafety.com/newsdesk/2018/...
As per the local Heath Scene mag for Surrey Heath - Good news is they're fairly sure that The Meadows project will be completed / open fully by the end of May / start of June.
Unfortunately once it's completed the next plan is to "improve" the A30 between Knoll Road & The Meadows and attempt to "redesign" the Frimley Road junction / traffic lights. Interestingly while the plan is mainly to "improve traffic flow" it's been slightly contradicted by also saying the bulk of the plan will focus on improvements & priorities for bus services and cyclist & pedestrian safety.
Then comes the (totally expected) managed speed limit reductions. Late last year Surrey Heath, Blackwater, Rushmoor & Guildford councils all agreed to implement studies & changes to meet the new emissions targets under the clean air act. As part of this a number of 50 limits are expected to be introduced depending on results of studies / passing consultation.
The drop to 50 (that was originally introduced on the A331 from the M3 roundabouts) has already been implemented and extended in Blackwater past The Meadows & towards Sandhurst.
This year it's planned to:
Extend the current 50 limit, on the A331 at Frimley, to the Farnborough junction.
Lower the current 70 limit, on the A331 from Hogs Back to Aldershot, to 50.
Lower the current 60 limit, on the A31 from Guildford to the Hogs Back, to 50 & then extend it (replacing the current 70 limit) to Farnham.
There was also a suggestion that if the limits are going to be lowered (as above) then it may actually be beneficial to just lower the A331 to 50 along it's entire stretch.
Of course the consideration for a 50 limit under the clean air act along the A31 / Hogs Back has obviously got nothing to do with Guildford council seeking to resubmit plans this year to redevelop a large chunk of country / brown field land along that stretch of the Hogs Back for housing development.
Even though they've failed on those plans a couple of times previously.
Joy
Unfortunately once it's completed the next plan is to "improve" the A30 between Knoll Road & The Meadows and attempt to "redesign" the Frimley Road junction / traffic lights. Interestingly while the plan is mainly to "improve traffic flow" it's been slightly contradicted by also saying the bulk of the plan will focus on improvements & priorities for bus services and cyclist & pedestrian safety.
Then comes the (totally expected) managed speed limit reductions. Late last year Surrey Heath, Blackwater, Rushmoor & Guildford councils all agreed to implement studies & changes to meet the new emissions targets under the clean air act. As part of this a number of 50 limits are expected to be introduced depending on results of studies / passing consultation.
The drop to 50 (that was originally introduced on the A331 from the M3 roundabouts) has already been implemented and extended in Blackwater past The Meadows & towards Sandhurst.
This year it's planned to:
Extend the current 50 limit, on the A331 at Frimley, to the Farnborough junction.
Lower the current 70 limit, on the A331 from Hogs Back to Aldershot, to 50.
Lower the current 60 limit, on the A31 from Guildford to the Hogs Back, to 50 & then extend it (replacing the current 70 limit) to Farnham.
There was also a suggestion that if the limits are going to be lowered (as above) then it may actually be beneficial to just lower the A331 to 50 along it's entire stretch.
Of course the consideration for a 50 limit under the clean air act along the A31 / Hogs Back has obviously got nothing to do with Guildford council seeking to resubmit plans this year to redevelop a large chunk of country / brown field land along that stretch of the Hogs Back for housing development.
Even though they've failed on those plans a couple of times previously. Joy
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Saturday 23 March 01:17
Well they've now got the average cameras up and "presumably" working on the A31 to A3 slip-road down as far as the Slyfield turn-off!
But the works on the Meadows roundabout this evening at around 9pm caused a total nightmare - it was almost like BFBC had taken over! (I didn't say "control" because I think BFBC are about as effective as Theresa May).
But the works on the Meadows roundabout this evening at around 9pm caused a total nightmare - it was almost like BFBC had taken over! (I didn't say "control" because I think BFBC are about as effective as Theresa May).
Nearly complete by the looks of it as most of the resurfacing / line painting is now done, plus some of the new traffic lights are being put up. Having new tarmac & no potholes (after god knows how many years of them) is a bonus 
Sadly even the new tarmac & bright white painted lanes & lane specific markings haven't had any effect on all the bellends that use the wrong lane / cut in front of other cars, Paris style, in an attempt to gain 1 second on their travel time
Sadly even the new tarmac & bright white painted lanes & lane specific markings haven't had any effect on all the bellends that use the wrong lane / cut in front of other cars, Paris style, in an attempt to gain 1 second on their travel time
AlexRS2782 said:
Nearly complete by the looks of it as most of the resurfacing / line painting is now done, plus some of the new traffic lights are being put up. Having new tarmac & no potholes (after god knows how many years of them) is a bonus
Sadly even the new tarmac & bright white painted lanes & lane specific markings haven't had any effect on all the bellends that use the wrong lane / cut in front of other cars, Paris style, in an attempt to gain 1 second on their travel time
I'm sure it had another year to go? I avoid it at the momentSadly even the new tarmac & bright white painted lanes & lane specific markings haven't had any effect on all the bellends that use the wrong lane / cut in front of other cars, Paris style, in an attempt to gain 1 second on their travel time
AlexRS2782 said:
Sadly even the new tarmac & bright white painted lanes & lane specific markings haven't had any effect on all the bellends that use the wrong lane / cut in front of other cars, Paris style, in an attempt to gain 1 second on their travel time
To be fair, I think part of that is because they've changed where the lanes go - and personally, I think they've made a mistake. If you're coming from Blackwater towards Camberley, and choose not to take the left onto the dual carriageway towards Bracknell, at the next set of traffic lights the far left lane used to allow you to take the next exit (towards Next / Tesco petrol station), or carry on around to the A30 towards Camberley. Now, the middle lane goes to the A30 and the far left lane only exits towards Next.
But the lane markings from the traffic lights don't make this all that obvious - and many people are still thinking they can get to the A30 from that left lane.
This change is a bad idea for a couple of reasons.
The road layout is such that there isn't really space for cars in the middle lane to take the "outer" route to the A30, whilst the car in the left hand lane goes towards Next - I've seen a couple of people get very very close when leaving the traffic lights.
And at rush hour, that middle lane goes nowhere because people from the dual carriageway block the roundabout - you could at least sneak around them if you used the left hand lane before the change.
Actually that sounds great to me!
I live up past the Military College, so have to use the Next/Tesco exit every time I come home off the M3 as there is no right turn at the lights at Rackstraws! So the queues will get shorter now.
I've never quite understood why when there are 3 lanes you'd expect to use the left-hand lane to head for the 3rd exit when there are only 5 exits in total! But it seems to be a common practice in Bracknell Forest as well.
I live up past the Military College, so have to use the Next/Tesco exit every time I come home off the M3 as there is no right turn at the lights at Rackstraws! So the queues will get shorter now.
I've never quite understood why when there are 3 lanes you'd expect to use the left-hand lane to head for the 3rd exit when there are only 5 exits in total! But it seems to be a common practice in Bracknell Forest as well.
Mr Tidy said:
Actually that sounds great to me!
I live up past the Military College, so have to use the Next/Tesco exit every time I come home off the M3 as there is no right turn at the lights at Rackstraws! So the queues will get shorter now.
I've never quite understood why when there are 3 lanes you'd expect to use the left-hand lane to head for the 3rd exit when there are only 5 exits in total! But it seems to be a common practice in Bracknell Forest as well.
You will be further pleased to know they are planning a yellow box junction then.I live up past the Military College, so have to use the Next/Tesco exit every time I come home off the M3 as there is no right turn at the lights at Rackstraws! So the queues will get shorter now.
I've never quite understood why when there are 3 lanes you'd expect to use the left-hand lane to head for the 3rd exit when there are only 5 exits in total! But it seems to be a common practice in Bracknell Forest as well.
Thanks for that. 
I think it's definitely going to be an improvement - especially for anyone coming from Blackwater on the A30 and wanting to head down the A331 towards the M3.
But also for the extra lanes.
And it hasn't been anything like as painful a process as I feared - Bracknell Forest could learn plenty from Surrey Heath (but doubtless won't).
I think it's definitely going to be an improvement - especially for anyone coming from Blackwater on the A30 and wanting to head down the A331 towards the M3.
But also for the extra lanes.
And it hasn't been anything like as painful a process as I feared - Bracknell Forest could learn plenty from Surrey Heath (but doubtless won't).
Edited by Mr Tidy on Wednesday 17th April 21:47
RichB said:
It appears to be almost finished.
It is:Project end date
We are now in the final stages of the Meadows improvement project. All works are expected to be completed, and the site clear by Tuesday 30 April.
On Wednesday 24 April the new traffic lights are due to be switched on. During that week, there may be timing changes and fine tuning of the new traffic lights. Once we are satisfied that the new lights are working correctly we will remove the temporary traffic lights. We would like to thank drivers in advance for their patience during the testing period.
The new right hand turn lane to the A331 southbound will be opened to traffic on the 24 April.
They've also (badly) attempted to rectify the lane seperation / merge on the two lanes that go towards the Tesco / Next exit road & around to the A30.
They've tried to mark out 2 seperate lanes with new paint, but have kept the existing curved lines they'd previously painted
Still getting the odd dicks using the extra lane of width to jump the queue / get ahead at an exit. Close one today at the exit for the dual carraigeway heading towards Sandhurst. BMW M4 placed itself in the far right lane which should go around to the A30 & a Fiesta ST180 placed itself in the far left lane for the station / business park. As expected the lights went green and both shot off, somehow narrowly avoiding each other as it turned out the Fiesta was going right for the A30, whilst the M4 was heading towards Sandhurst
They've tried to mark out 2 seperate lanes with new paint, but have kept the existing curved lines they'd previously painted
Still getting the odd dicks using the extra lane of width to jump the queue / get ahead at an exit. Close one today at the exit for the dual carraigeway heading towards Sandhurst. BMW M4 placed itself in the far right lane which should go around to the A30 & a Fiesta ST180 placed itself in the far left lane for the station / business park. As expected the lights went green and both shot off, somehow narrowly avoiding each other as it turned out the Fiesta was going right for the A30, whilst the M4 was heading towards Sandhurst
AlexRS2782 said:
They've also (badly) attempted to rectify the lane seperation / merge on the two lanes that go towards the Tesco / Next exit road & around to the A30.
They've tried to mark out 2 seperate lanes with new paint, but have kept the existing curved lines they'd previously painted
Still getting the odd dicks using the extra lane of width to jump the queue / get ahead at an exit. Close one today at the exit for the dual carraigeway heading towards Sandhurst. BMW M4 placed itself in the far right lane which should go around to the A30 & a Fiesta ST180 placed itself in the far left lane for the station / business park. As expected the lights went green and both shot off, somehow narrowly avoiding each other as it turned out the Fiesta was going right for the A30, whilst the M4 was heading towards Sandhurst
I got hit on that roundabout in September by somebody who was in the wrong lane. The new markings don't convince me it won't happen again!They've tried to mark out 2 seperate lanes with new paint, but have kept the existing curved lines they'd previously painted
Still getting the odd dicks using the extra lane of width to jump the queue / get ahead at an exit. Close one today at the exit for the dual carraigeway heading towards Sandhurst. BMW M4 placed itself in the far right lane which should go around to the A30 & a Fiesta ST180 placed itself in the far left lane for the station / business park. As expected the lights went green and both shot off, somehow narrowly avoiding each other as it turned out the Fiesta was going right for the A30, whilst the M4 was heading towards Sandhurst
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