Surface dressing

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Cats

Original Poster:

994 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Here we go it appears to be the season of chucking chippings all over the pot holes.
Funny how money for this can be found.
Just fill the frigging holes in - Jeez

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Cats said:
Here we go it appears to be the season of chucking chippings all over the pot holes.
Funny how money for this can be found.
Just fill the frigging holes in - Jeez
If it's done properly, it works.

They normally patch any holes first, them lay the surface dressing.

Done well, the road is much better afterwards, grip is better, and it looks neater too.

Cats

Original Poster:

994 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Really; best you tell them how to do it then.
I value the paintwork on my vehicles too much obviously.

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Cats said:
Really; best you tell them how to do it then.
I value the paintwork on my vehicles too much obviously.
As I said, "if it's done properly". It isn't, however, always done properly.

I've seen some proper abortions and I've also seen some very nice professional jobs.

There's a road I drive in Lincolnshire quite often that's been done, they've spent about two months properly planing the potholed areas and laying a new surface for those patches. The road then looks like a patchwork quilt but the holes have been properly dug out and relaid. Then three weeks ago it was surface dressed in grey chippings, rolled down and brushed. Speed limit in place for seven days. Now it looks really good and the grip is better too. It'll last for years.

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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I don't think I've ever seen it "done properly". Leaving aside the potholes. After a few months the chippings have disappeared and there are loads of bald patches. Can't see how that helps with grip.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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They have just wasted loads of money doing the small roads around our housing estate that didn’t need touching at all, the main roads that get you to these roads are completely fked and full of already filled in 130 times, pot holes
But they have left all those fking joke tbh
shoot

Cats

Original Poster:

994 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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zarjaz1991 said:
As I said, "if it's done properly". It isn't, however, always done properly.

I've seen some proper abortions and I've also seen some very nice professional jobs.

There's a road I drive in Lincolnshire quite often that's been done, they've spent about two months properly planing the potholed areas and laying a new surface for those patches. The road then looks like a patchwork quilt but the holes have been properly dug out and relaid. Then three weeks ago it was surface dressed in grey chippings, rolled down and brushed. Speed limit in place for seven days. Now it looks really good and the grip is better too. It'll last for years.
If it lasts for years why do they waste their time every year. I think your argument is flawed.
I don't have a problem with grip, I have a problem with damaged wheels suspension and paintwork

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Cats said:
If it lasts for years why do they waste their time every year. I think your argument is flawed.
I don't have a problem with grip, I have a problem with damaged wheels suspension and paintwork
I've never seen anywhere where the same roads are done annually. It's different roads each time.

Sounds to me like you've got an incompetent highways department round your way.

Yes I have seen badly done surface dressing jobs, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the idea behind it is perfectly sound if it's done properly.

Surface dressing simply isn't designed to fill in potholes. The potholes have to be properly patched beforehand. If they're not doing that then it's being badly managed.

Cats

Original Poster:

994 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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You got it at last, badly managed waste of money

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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zarjaz1991 said:
Cats said:
Really; best you tell them how to do it then.
I value the paintwork on my vehicles too much obviously.
As I said, "if it's done properly". It isn't, however, always done properly.

I've seen some proper abortions and I've also seen some very nice professional jobs.

There's a road I drive in Lincolnshire quite often that's been done, they've spent about two months properly planing the potholed areas and laying a new surface for those patches. The road then looks like a patchwork quilt but the holes have been properly dug out and relaid. Then three weeks ago it was surface dressed in grey chippings, rolled down and brushed. Speed limit in place for seven days. Now it looks really good and the grip is better too. It'll last for years.
It's Highways solution. Put a load of spin on it and brush up under that ever increasing carpet.
How many fking times have we heard that.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Its fking lethal on a motorbike. Fairoaks road just done. Obviously decision maker is some chauffeur driven fat lazy who has never even set foot in the drivers seat let alone ridden a bike.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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RemyMartin81D said:
Its fking lethal on a motorbike. Fairoaks road just done. Obviously decision maker is some chauffeur driven fat lazy who has never even set foot in the drivers seat let alone ridden a bike.
I went down there in the 32 tonner the other day.
Feel sorry for the other drivers who got their cars shot blasted but that's what happens when you sit right up behind an HGV
Compete dust cloud behind frown

Would not be so bad if the road was swept once the stone was bedded down

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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So there I am last night thinking you guys are doing the classic PH thing of banging on about a non-existent issue and then this morning...

The road outside has been “dressed” for almost a 2-mile distance!

Bugger!

laugh

Justin S

3,641 posts

261 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Nothing in West Berkshire is done properly, just cheaply and lasts no more than 6 months , before the surface is down to the tarmac they covered underneath. They are repairing potholes on roads that are basically worn out , which is just bullstting the obvious , but its not making any improvements to being able to safely drive without being on pothole watch.

Cupra Black

3,029 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Yep, West Berks have been doing several roads this week.

The A340 has been done (relaid not chipped) from the Theale Roundabout almost to Pangbourne. I use that road everyday and cycle it a lot too and it wasn't even that bad.

Its a crap use of funds if they just ignore all the other roads that are in a terrible state

outnumbered

4,084 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Cupra Black said:
Yep, West Berks have been doing several roads this week.

The A340 has been done (relaid not chipped) from the Theale Roundabout almost to Pangbourne. I use that road everyday and cycle it a lot too and it wasn't even that bad.

Its a crap use of funds if they just ignore all the other roads that are in a terrible state
I don't understand that one either. Three weeks of night closures to fully plane and re-lay 1 and a bit miles of road that didn't need it. But go through many villages in West Berks, and you need to keep your eyes focussed a few feet in front of you, to avoid the numerous potholes and incipient wheel damage in a car, or risk of crashing if you're on 2 wheels.

I wonder if they get some central gov't grant that covers A roads specifically, so have to spend the money on them ?

Justin S

3,641 posts

261 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Cupra Black said:
Yep, West Berks have been doing several roads this week.

The A340 has been done (relaid not chipped) from the Theale Roundabout almost to Pangbourne. I use that road everyday and cycle it a lot too and it wasn't even that bad.

Its a crap use of funds if they just ignore all the other roads that are in a terrible state
Just remember who lives on that road , at Englefield House. Yes, a very unpleasant parliamentary person. Road wasnt bad , there are worse, but 'One has to have smooth roads , for one to entice people into ones grounds for tea and cakes'

Wife drives it everyday and never complained. i used to live in Tidmarsh and it was fine and I go out for a blat to the Chilterns that way in the Westfield and roads fine until you hit Oxfordshire. Now that is a war zone..............

outnumbered

4,084 posts

234 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Justin S said:
Just remember who lives on that road , at Englefield House. Yes, a very unpleasant parliamentary person.
Hmm, didn't know that. Could explain things...