New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
V6Pushfit said:
ChilliWhizz said:
47 days to go....
That's.................
6 weeks and 5 days...
And between now and then.....
33 working days....
1 Bank holiday....
3 Grand Prix....
At least 5 BBQ's,
And 2 regional TVR meets... here in carrot cruncher land...
Next one at the airshow half a mile from my gaff...
But will it have been worth the wait? Will it blow us away? Will it make us proud to be TVR die hards?
Will we be able to go down the pub and say "have you seen the new TVR? It's stunning"
What if it wasn't worth the wait... What if it doesn't take our breath away or make us proud?
What will we do then?
What will become of us?
Why am I writing this drivel?
Who knows the answer to these questions.... who cares....
Roll on the 8th September.....
Just musing that the reveal 'ticket' costs around £200+ (If even still available) plus overnight accommodation for many. If it was at say Duxford or somewhere where there's a (usually) less busy event it would would be much more accessible.That's.................
6 weeks and 5 days...
And between now and then.....
33 working days....
1 Bank holiday....
3 Grand Prix....
At least 5 BBQ's,
And 2 regional TVR meets... here in carrot cruncher land...
Next one at the airshow half a mile from my gaff...
But will it have been worth the wait? Will it blow us away? Will it make us proud to be TVR die hards?
Will we be able to go down the pub and say "have you seen the new TVR? It's stunning"
What if it wasn't worth the wait... What if it doesn't take our breath away or make us proud?
What will we do then?
What will become of us?
Why am I writing this drivel?
Who knows the answer to these questions.... who cares....
Roll on the 8th September.....
I will be there, but I hope TVR do a follow up for those who don't 'do' Goodwood.
Appealing to 10 year old kids is a very good thing when you think about it, but 5 year old kids 
I think we Tvr owners have every right to be highly critical of this project in the full hope and with GM involved belief it will be a car worthy of the Tvr name.
The value of our cars and the Tvr name are on the line here let alone a load of corporate investors money.
Has anyone seen interior design yet. If it can retain the individuality and wow factor most modern Tvr display that will go along way to convince me,, angular body shape doesn't suggest curvy hugging leather and stitching,,, again all this critique is in the hope they have indeed captured the essence of Tvr and come the reveal we'll all be bowled over with this new exciting design. We all live in great hope and anticipation.
I wish them all the luck a post Brexit country can offer. Wales is out the window now without euro money by the looks of it. I sincerely hope not as I believe there's huge engineering potential and plenty of cheap labour in Wales,, oh there's plenty of that everywhere now days! If you can't make a success of building cars in the uk right now you never will. Employment law and profits are stacked in employers favour, you'll not get a more beat up workforce than you do now. Get the heck on with it and make us proud.
How many buyers are out there, but how many Tvr owners are out there,, our views do matter no matter what anyone says. Remember we're still selling Tvr and promoting the new found reliability many Tvr enjoy with modern upgrades etc. There is already a market for Tvr for our existing cars that will be effected by this venture.
Some say all publicity is good publicity and that's hard to argue against. My only rather selfish fear is if this is a disappointment or lets the public down in any way it will have a knock on effect on us existing Tvr owners.
Tvr have long been subject to the usual rhetoric of unreliability etc etc
The irony is as they are becoming known as good second hand cars with many of the original faults ironed out and often looking far better at 70,000 miles than nearly all its competition at the same age and milage,,,, I've looked, Lotus, all sorts of hand built cars as mass is never gonna please me, and Tvr are proving to be seriously robust and well built cars and getting better as they get older in many cases.
The new Tvr have a lot to live upto is all I'm saying.
I hope they respect the raw brilliance of our cars and produce another,,, I'm close to thinking they will too. Good on em.
I think we Tvr owners have every right to be highly critical of this project in the full hope and with GM involved belief it will be a car worthy of the Tvr name.
The value of our cars and the Tvr name are on the line here let alone a load of corporate investors money.
Has anyone seen interior design yet. If it can retain the individuality and wow factor most modern Tvr display that will go along way to convince me,, angular body shape doesn't suggest curvy hugging leather and stitching,,, again all this critique is in the hope they have indeed captured the essence of Tvr and come the reveal we'll all be bowled over with this new exciting design. We all live in great hope and anticipation.
I wish them all the luck a post Brexit country can offer. Wales is out the window now without euro money by the looks of it. I sincerely hope not as I believe there's huge engineering potential and plenty of cheap labour in Wales,, oh there's plenty of that everywhere now days! If you can't make a success of building cars in the uk right now you never will. Employment law and profits are stacked in employers favour, you'll not get a more beat up workforce than you do now. Get the heck on with it and make us proud.
How many buyers are out there, but how many Tvr owners are out there,, our views do matter no matter what anyone says. Remember we're still selling Tvr and promoting the new found reliability many Tvr enjoy with modern upgrades etc. There is already a market for Tvr for our existing cars that will be effected by this venture.
Some say all publicity is good publicity and that's hard to argue against. My only rather selfish fear is if this is a disappointment or lets the public down in any way it will have a knock on effect on us existing Tvr owners.
Tvr have long been subject to the usual rhetoric of unreliability etc etc
The irony is as they are becoming known as good second hand cars with many of the original faults ironed out and often looking far better at 70,000 miles than nearly all its competition at the same age and milage,,,, I've looked, Lotus, all sorts of hand built cars as mass is never gonna please me, and Tvr are proving to be seriously robust and well built cars and getting better as they get older in many cases.
The new Tvr have a lot to live upto is all I'm saying.
I hope they respect the raw brilliance of our cars and produce another,,, I'm close to thinking they will too. Good on em.
Classic Chim said:
Appealing to 10 year old kids is a very good thing when you think about it, but 5 year old kids
I think we Tvr owners have every right to be highly critical of this project in the full hope and with GM involved belief it will be a car worthy of the Tvr name.
The value of our cars and the Tvr name are on the line here let alone a load of corporate investors money.
Has anyone seen interior design yet. If it can retain the individuality and wow factor most modern Tvr display that will go along way to convince me,, angular body shape doesn't suggest curvy hugging leather and stitching,,, again all this critique is in the hope they have indeed captured the essence of Tvr and come the reveal we'll all be bowled over with this new exciting design. We all live in great hope and anticipation.
I wish them all the luck a post Brexit country can offer. Wales is out the window now without euro money by the looks of it. I sincerely hope not as I believe there's huge engineering potential and plenty of cheap labour in Wales,, oh there's plenty of that everywhere now days! If you can't make a success of building cars in the uk right now you never will. Employment law and profits are stacked in employers favour, you'll not get a more beat up workforce than you do now. Get the heck on with it and make us proud.
How many buyers are out there, but how many Tvr owners are out there,, our views do matter no matter what anyone says. Remember we're still selling Tvr and promoting the new found reliability many Tvr enjoy with modern upgrades etc. There is already a market for Tvr for our existing cars that will be effected by this venture.
Some say all publicity is good publicity and that's hard to argue against. My only rather selfish fear is if this is a disappointment or lets the public down in any way it will have a knock on effect on us existing Tvr owners.
Tvr have long been subject to the usual rhetoric of unreliability etc etc
The irony is as they are becoming known as good second hand cars with many of the original faults ironed out and often looking far better at 70,000 miles than nearly all its competition at the same age and milage,,,, I've looked, Lotus, all sorts of hand built cars as mass is never gonna please me, and Tvr are proving to be seriously robust and well built cars and getting better as they get older in many cases.
The new Tvr have a lot to live upto is all I'm saying.
I hope they respect the raw brilliance of our cars and produce another,,, I'm close to thinking they will too. Good on em.
Seriously robust.... it's a bit early in the morning to be drinking. I think we Tvr owners have every right to be highly critical of this project in the full hope and with GM involved belief it will be a car worthy of the Tvr name.
The value of our cars and the Tvr name are on the line here let alone a load of corporate investors money.
Has anyone seen interior design yet. If it can retain the individuality and wow factor most modern Tvr display that will go along way to convince me,, angular body shape doesn't suggest curvy hugging leather and stitching,,, again all this critique is in the hope they have indeed captured the essence of Tvr and come the reveal we'll all be bowled over with this new exciting design. We all live in great hope and anticipation.
I wish them all the luck a post Brexit country can offer. Wales is out the window now without euro money by the looks of it. I sincerely hope not as I believe there's huge engineering potential and plenty of cheap labour in Wales,, oh there's plenty of that everywhere now days! If you can't make a success of building cars in the uk right now you never will. Employment law and profits are stacked in employers favour, you'll not get a more beat up workforce than you do now. Get the heck on with it and make us proud.
How many buyers are out there, but how many Tvr owners are out there,, our views do matter no matter what anyone says. Remember we're still selling Tvr and promoting the new found reliability many Tvr enjoy with modern upgrades etc. There is already a market for Tvr for our existing cars that will be effected by this venture.
Some say all publicity is good publicity and that's hard to argue against. My only rather selfish fear is if this is a disappointment or lets the public down in any way it will have a knock on effect on us existing Tvr owners.
Tvr have long been subject to the usual rhetoric of unreliability etc etc
The irony is as they are becoming known as good second hand cars with many of the original faults ironed out and often looking far better at 70,000 miles than nearly all its competition at the same age and milage,,,, I've looked, Lotus, all sorts of hand built cars as mass is never gonna please me, and Tvr are proving to be seriously robust and well built cars and getting better as they get older in many cases.
The new Tvr have a lot to live upto is all I'm saying.
I hope they respect the raw brilliance of our cars and produce another,,, I'm close to thinking they will too. Good on em.
m4tti said:
Seriously robust.... it's a bit early in the morning to be drinking.
Well it is a Chimaera with a brilliant V8 in it. Nothing's dropoed off mine in over 5 years ownership, it's been rebuilt a few times in that time though
The bodies are strong, the chassis are very simple and the cars do age ok if you constantly look after them. With the right alterations to basic aspects of the cars they are indeed robust things,, RV8 obviously as I can build two for the price of the other engines used..
Ive spent the day with s chsp in a Tvr that's pushing 250,000 miles and he did at least ten runs up a drag strip today. Ok Triggers broom but it still proves the basic components can run for a very long time.
ETA I've also covered over 33,000 miles in my Chim in those 5 years and it's never been under a cover. It's also never broke down but I'll retract that statement as I'm superstitious
Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 23 July 19:59
I never mentioned that,, Rainsports, handles like a dream 
Ok TVR are crap but still better than everything else and today roof off de cat blar blar, awesome car.
12.60 1/4 mile suggests my little standard ish RV 450 Chimaera is still far to fast for its own good or mine probably and with the Tvr Power mods incl Mbe is a car to reckon with from both a power and reliability perspective. New diff, suspension, joints bushes steering uj's and many other things might have helped a little.
I've driven through Stratford on Avon a number of times this weekend and going by the looks of bemusement joy fear happiness and wide open mouths of many of the general public that witnessed my burbling through the town roof off, still suggest there's nothing like them, not even close. Sod the handling for now
Ok TVR are crap
but still better than everything else and today roof off de cat blar blar, awesome car. 12.60 1/4 mile suggests my little standard ish RV 450 Chimaera is still far to fast for its own good or mine probably and with the Tvr Power mods incl Mbe is a car to reckon with from both a power and reliability perspective. New diff, suspension, joints bushes steering uj's and many other things might have helped a little.
I've driven through Stratford on Avon a number of times this weekend and going by the looks of bemusement joy fear happiness and wide open mouths of many of the general public that witnessed my burbling through the town roof off, still suggest there's nothing like them, not even close. Sod the handling for now
I dont agree with the examples of modern car design that Max Torque showed - two of them look to be trying too hard to be different and the Range Rover is very bland. Whatever you might say about the build quality of past TVRs their appearance was startling and good both inside and outside. Thats why people bought them. Not for performance or reliability but because they were sexy.
IMO the new TVR needs to stand out too. Otherwise, why buy a new TVR with all the risk involved in buying a new design made in penny numbers by a new company using inexperienced labour when you can buy a dynamically as good reliable mass produced car for less .
In short it needs to look sexy and be in bright colours. If you want a dreary looking dark coloured sports car that is well built and dynamically very good then buy a 911.
IMO the new TVR needs to stand out too. Otherwise, why buy a new TVR with all the risk involved in buying a new design made in penny numbers by a new company using inexperienced labour when you can buy a dynamically as good reliable mass produced car for less .
In short it needs to look sexy and be in bright colours. If you want a dreary looking dark coloured sports car that is well built and dynamically very good then buy a 911.
phazed 11.83 said:
rev-erend said:
12.6 1/4 is bloody quick for a 4.6 Chim. 
I taught him everything he knows.Derek taught me everything I know.
We chimsters are quick learners
that and him teaching me how to change a diff in 20 minutes Rev Alan,,, coming from you.
Thankyou indeed.
I'm deeply proud of my little Chims time.
It's bloody quick for anything let alone a 17 year old Tvr road car. I didn't even soften shocks on the rear, 12.4 in that car with Derek or Peter in it. Proper tyre's were used I will add.
I can't wait to see what the new car can do 1/4 mile
Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 25th July 01:20
m4tti said:
You mean something like the new mid engined corvette due next year. If they manage to do this RHD and sub 100k I suspect it'll sell well.
And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
Not a bad looking car...And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
I see Lotus have released another special edition Evora - GT430 - price.... £112k, so the new TVR will be approx £22k cheaper than a Lotus !!!!
m4tti said:
You mean something like the new mid engined corvette due next year. If they manage to do this RHD and sub 100k I suspect it'll sell well.
And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
How will that make you look rich and famous on social media though? And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
Even with the success Chevrolet are having with the race cars now I find it difficult to see beyond the old style Corvette and its legendary 'performance'... I like the look of the new Mustang (a few where I live), but I can't see myself ever buying one, good value that they might be... It seems that (IMHO) American racing and exciting sports cars had the greatest springboard possible with the likes and talents of Carrol Shelby and Jack Griffith, but somewhere along the line they dropped the ball and the concept of a 'sports' car with it... Probably why Steve McQueen drove a Jagwaar and rode a Triumph
m4tti said:
You mean something like the new mid engined corvette due next year. If they manage to do this RHD and sub 100k I suspect it'll sell well.
And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
Before the announcement on the new TVR I was dead set on buying a C7 Corvette - I've driven a couple over decent mileages and considered them awesome cars. It was only the chance of a new TVR that stopped me - so right not the 'competition' the TVR has to beat in performance and looks is the Stingray. Sadly I don't think it will come close in performance terms to the Z06, but I guess if it is on par with a Grand Sport I'd be happy enough (although a new Z06 is sub £100K)..And come with a gazillion mile warranty. May be a bit of a jr super car game changer.
Looks wise, I was at the 'reveal' and while it looked pretty good - in the pale nondescript colour it was shown in plus the blacked-out lights and windows it wouldn't get a second glance next to say a yellow Stingray. But I'm keeping the faith for the actual car, and hope it looks the part in a decent colour with proper wheels.
But then we come to the rumoured new Corvette as per the pic. NOOOO!!! Looks wise, this rendering simply isn't a patch on the current Stingray. I don't care if this mid-engined thing might be quicker round the Nurburgring or wherever - I'm a front-engined V8 guy. My choice is between the new TVR and a C7 and this thing wouldn't sway me...and I'm keen enough on the potential of the TVR to have held-off on the Corvette. I really want the TVR to be a stunning car in performance and looks - and for me the C7 is the benchmark it has to beat...or at least equal since I do have a soft spot for TVRs.
phazed 11.83 said:
m4tti said:
Almost a modern day Pantera..
DonkeyApple said:
How will that make you look rich and famous on social media though?
Good point.. if your car costs more than your house and you spend a considerable amount on fake tan, your probably not going to like it.Unless you do something like we saw with the Chrysler C300 things where you chuck a bentley badge on the front.
tvrolet said:
Before the announcement on the new TVR I was dead set on buying a C7 Corvette - I've driven a couple over decent mileages and considered them awesome cars. It was only the chance of a new TVR that stopped me - so right not the 'competition' the TVR has to beat in performance and looks is the Stingray. Sadly I don't think it will come close in performance terms to the Z06, but I guess if it is on par with a Grand Sport I'd be happy enough (although a new Z06 is sub £100K)..
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Could almost have been my post. ...
Don't worry, performancewise you should be fine, the Z06 and the TVR will both have 2.5 kg/hp, so that's actually pretty similar. Also the 3.8 secs for the 0-60 for the manual Corvette are almost identical. Same for topspeed. Given what we know, the TVR will be a serious match for the Z06, forget about the Grand Sport.
Don't forget, the C7 weighs 400 kg (1/3rd of TVR or 1/4th of the C7!) more than then TVR and even if it has the power to make up for it, the 400kg will make themselves felt while driving.
Thing that always put me off with C7 is all the bells and whistles that you can't get rid off. In terms of looks it's cool (not sure about the rear, but definitely way better than the predecessors), but after really looking at all pictures of the TVR again (especially the black pic from page 1 of this thread) and combining it with what i can remember from the reveal, i think TVR have something really cool and unique on their hands. In the end, the TVR will turn a lot more heads than the C7.
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