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yajeed

4,892 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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tvrolet said:
Griffith was named after the US importer Jack (as I recall) Griffith who did what Shelby did with the AC to make the Cobra - drop a big V8 in. Griffith followed the same route with TVRs. So no mythical/Greek/Roman connection at all.

I'm not sure what all the obsession is with mythical names anyway. Sure Chimaera, and Cerbera if you accept a mis-spelling. But off the top of my head Tuscan, Taimar, Tasmin and Tamora had no mythical link. Then we have letters and numbers like S-series, V8S, 450SEAC and T350 so it's hardly like mythical beasts, even misspelled ones, made the bulk of the historic names.
I thought Griffith started the mythical beasts series of cars?

Their were exceptions, such as Tamara, but more along the same lines such as Typhon and Sagaris

tvrolet

4,264 posts

282 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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yajeed said:
I thought Griffith started the mythical beasts series of cars?

Their were exceptions, such as Tamara, but more along the same lines such as Typhon and Sagaris
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink

FarmyardPants

4,108 posts

218 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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TwinKam said:
HarryW said:
Orthrus.. Brother of Cerberus and Chimera, son of Typhon....
Now that's clever. Almost too clever.
Cerberus -> Cerbera

Orthrus -> Orthra?


TwinKam

2,974 posts

95 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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FarmyardPants said:
TwinKam said:
HarryW said:
Orthrus.. Brother of Cerberus and Chimera, son of Typhon....
Now that's clever. Almost too clever.
Cerberus -> Cerbera

Orthrus -> Orthra?
On reflection, Orthrus is rather too close to thrush and Orthra too similar to urethra...
I'll leave it there. biglaugh

FarmyardPants

4,108 posts

218 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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TwinKam said:
FarmyardPants said:
TwinKam said:
HarryW said:
Orthrus.. Brother of Cerberus and Chimera, son of Typhon....
Now that's clever. Almost too clever.
Cerberus -> Cerbera

Orthrus -> Orthra?
On reflection, Orthrus is rather too close to thrush and Orthra too similar to urethra...
I'll leave it there. biglaugh
Never mind the GTI, this could be the world's first two-seater UTI smile

yajeed

4,892 posts

254 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
Yes, I know. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Griffith started the mythical beasts theme; it was from Jack's surname, but then subsequent cars followed and were linked to it. Griffith (Griffin), Cerbera (cerberus, Kerberos), Chimaera (Chimera), Sagaris, Typhon,

After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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yajeed said:
tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
Yes, I know. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Griffith started the mythical beasts theme; it was from Jack's surname, but then subsequent cars followed and were linked to it. Griffith (Griffin), Cerbera (cerberus, Kerberos), Chimaera (Chimera), Sagaris, Typhon,

After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.
ignoring the 30 year gap and lots of other fads in-between

DonkeyApple

55,232 posts

169 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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TA14 said:
yajeed said:
tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
Yes, I know. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Griffith started the mythical beasts theme; it was from Jack's surname, but then subsequent cars followed and were linked to it. Griffith (Griffin), Cerbera (cerberus, Kerberos), Chimaera (Chimera), Sagaris, Typhon,

After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.
ignoring the 30 year gap and lots of other fads in-between
Surely the mythical naming began with the 350i?

A fire breathing beast that lies dormant in its cave and requiring a Demi-god, armed with a wide range of specialist charms and spells to be able to wake it. Rarely seen by any human?

PoleDriver

28,636 posts

194 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Surely Icarus or Phoenix would be more fitting?

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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yajeed said:
tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.
Well apart from Tuscan and Tamora which when added to Sagaris was 3/4 of the collection..........

T350 was the only car not to be given a name in fact. (not counting one offs).

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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unrepentant said:
yajeed said:
tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.
Well apart from Tuscan and Tamora which when added to Sagaris was 3/4 of the collection..........

T350 was the only car not to be given a name in fact. (not counting one offs).
3000 S may have been the first one

yajeed

4,892 posts

254 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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unrepentant said:
Well apart from Tuscan and Tamora which when added to Sagaris was 3/4 of the collection..........

T350 was the only car not to be given a name in fact. (not counting one offs).
My recollection was. Griffith started it. Then Chimaera. Then Tuscan. Then Tamora, Then t350 (which obviously broken the mould). Then t400, then t440, then Typhon, then Sagaris.

The intent was to produce more of the t4xx cars but for whatever reason, that didn't happen. So in effect, they moved to numbers, decided they didn't like it and moved back. That makes sense since otherwise you'd have been screwed when you had 2 models with the same HP (like the T cars).

tvrolet

4,264 posts

282 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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yajeed said:
My recollection was. Griffith started it. Then Chimaera. Then Tuscan. Then Tamora, Then t350 (which obviously broken the mould). Then t400, then t440, then Typhon, then Sagaris.

The intent was to produce more of the t4xx cars but for whatever reason, that didn't happen. So in effect, they moved to numbers, decided they didn't like it and moved back. That makes sense since otherwise you'd have been screwed when you had 2 models with the same HP (like the T cars).
The Tuscan name was first used in the 60s, as was the first use of Griffith... I seem to remember that 'Tuscan' was coined to match the 'continental' sounding names of other mainstream cars at the time like Capri and Cortina. And the Griffith was based on a Grantura.

OK, with the help of a bit of googling, here are the past model names for road cars (excluding every variant) with the date range that name was available. If there's any trend to be determined it's that names starting 'T' have been more popular than mythical creatures, and given Griffith first appeared in 1963, I think you'd be hard pressed to argue it started any mythical name trend,

Grantura 1958-1967
Trident 1965
Griffith 1963-1967
Tuscan 1967-1971
Vixen 1968-1972
1600M/2500M 1972-1979
Taimar 1976-1979
3000S 1978-1979
Tasmin 1981-1984
280/350/400/420/450 SX,SE, SEAC 1984-1989
S/S1/S2/V8S 1986-1993
Griffith 1991-2002
Chimaera 1992-2001
Cerbera 1996-2003
Tuscan 1999-2006
T440R 2002-2003
Tamora 2002-2006
T350 2002-2006
Sagaris 2004-2006
Typhon 2004-2006

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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About thirty cars on about ten chassis. Three cars per chassis on average. Sounds about right.

Byker28i

59,697 posts

217 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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TA14 said:
About thirty cars on about ten chassis. Three cars per chassis on average. Sounds about right.
which share identical chassis then?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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TA14 said:
unrepentant said:
yajeed said:
tvrolet said:
Nope. Named after Jack Griffith the US importer who 'did a Shelby' on TVRs. You may be confusing this with a Griffin (already nicked by Vauxhall). Go google wink
After a while TVR dropped the naming in favour of numbers - t350, t400 but seemed to lose interest with the sagaris.
Well apart from Tuscan and Tamora which when added to Sagaris was 3/4 of the collection..........

T350 was the only car not to be given a name in fact. (not counting one offs).
3000 S may have been the first one
1800S in 1965?

TR4man

5,226 posts

174 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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PoleDriver said:
Surely Icarus or Phoenix would be more fitting?
Hopefully not Icarus as I don't think it ended well for him.

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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TR4man said:
PoleDriver said:
Surely Icarus or Phoenix would be more fitting?
Hopefully not Icarus as I don't think it ended well for him.
Phoenix either, that had the most spectacular birth in the whole history of the world, and ended up life working as a bit part actor in a harry potter movie. Besides it was already taken by the infamous AXA

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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As no one picked up on my very first God/goddess when I restarted the naming game I'll append it again.

Aphaia (Aphea) = the invisible goddess!

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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HarryW said:
As no one picked up on my very first God/goddess when I restarted the naming game I'll append it again.

Aphaia (Aphea) = the invisible goddess!
Name one other muscle car aimed at macho men named after a woman.............................Can't think of one



edited to say I might regret this. frown
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