New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
They wanted me to procure a new car which they would then drive around for a few months making out it was theirs in exchange for promoting my brokerage. I would be expected to cover their expenses as well. I called around a few brokerages to ask their opinion and they said it was normal and that's how the deals worked.
That sounds very deceitful if it was done in such a discrete way but quite intriguing, maybe I'm doing this very wrong! I just walk into dealerships and pay deposits/sign orders for the cars I like 
I ran both an M4 and then X6 M550d as fleet cars from BMW, and an RS6 1/12 from Abt, but all were very clearly marked and described as such. I've not had a dealer/broker provide me with a car or even any involvement outside of when I want to sell one!
Has anybody ever had a reply from emailing TVR direct?
Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
Briza said:
Has anybody ever had a reply from emailing TVR direct?
Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
yes. I have emailed and had replies..Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
it could be post this launch, they have been very verybusy
Briza said:
Has anybody ever had a reply from emailing TVR direct?
Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
I've mailed once or twice and always got a reply at last a few days later. Dates for coming shows will be made public soon, i guess. List positions depend on how many people decide to return their deposits. That again will depend on final specs, prices, delivery times, etc. My take is, that this will take a while still as they probably want to show it around as often as they can, get approval done etc. Ive emailed a few times, trying to find when the next reveal will be, I still haven't seen it in the flesh and as an early deposit holder would like to view it before I firm up my order, and also I've emailed to try and find my number in the waiting list.
No reply up to now.
So i wouldn't hold my breath for it. Didn't you receive the post-launch depositor mail ?
Moycie said:
...At least, that's what I remember off the top of my head, speaking with Les as I had a one-to-one tour around the car. There is some detailed engineering in this new car, some of which isn't seen, but demonstrates the thought that has gone into the whole design.
Whilst you chatted did you get any info on the transmission? I've read many times about the Cosworth engine related work, but for the gearbox we just get a Tremec model. Was it mentioned that there will be TVR specified gearbox ratios?RichardD said:
Moycie said:
...At least, that's what I remember off the top of my head, speaking with Les as I had a one-to-one tour around the car. There is some detailed engineering in this new car, some of which isn't seen, but demonstrates the thought that has gone into the whole design.
Whilst you chatted did you get any info on the transmission? I've read many times about the Cosworth engine related work, but for the gearbox we just get a Tremec model. Was it mentioned that there will be TVR specified gearbox ratios?Here is a cut and paste from the Xmas email update though....bespoke ratios.
GEARING UP!
Following the recent hint, we are pleased to confirm that the gearbox selected for use in the Launch Edition TVR will be the Tremec Magnum XL fitted with a bespoke set of ratios. The unit is 6-speed and will be great for both spirited driving and cruising on longer tours, plus it is rated to 700 lb-ft & 7800 rpm, perfect!
VULCANT said:
A look around the stand: https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=k76yS3Y3kUL&...
This is very very cool, thx. I just noticed now that you can change position, this is the best thing so far to check the car from different angles and get some impression how it is to move around it.
Moycie said:
Good question....I must admit I didn't even get to talking about the gearbox.
Here is a cut and paste from the Xmas email update though....bespoke ratios.
GEARING UP!
Following the recent hint, we are pleased to confirm that the gearbox selected for use in the Launch Edition TVR will be the Tremec Magnum XL fitted with a bespoke set of ratios. The unit is 6-speed and will be great for both spirited driving and cruising on longer tours, plus it is rated to 700 lb-ft & 7800 rpm, perfect!
Thanks for that. The two aftermarket Magnum XL options have ratios imho too wide apart for a TVR so that makes sense. Plus there will be enough units purchased to justify bespoke ratios too Here is a cut and paste from the Xmas email update though....bespoke ratios.
GEARING UP!
Following the recent hint, we are pleased to confirm that the gearbox selected for use in the Launch Edition TVR will be the Tremec Magnum XL fitted with a bespoke set of ratios. The unit is 6-speed and will be great for both spirited driving and cruising on longer tours, plus it is rated to 700 lb-ft & 7800 rpm, perfect!
. Be interesting when the eventual in gear speeds are known. How about 65,100,125,150,178,205 ?
.(although the hint regarding cruising could mean 5+1
?)Hmmm interesting! virtually identical wheels on this......
[pic] https://goo.gl/images/veFgp7 [/pic]
Came up on super car build on Nat geographic just now on the Chiron saying they were a part of the aero design etc
[pic] https://goo.gl/images/veFgp7 [/pic]
Came up on super car build on Nat geographic just now on the Chiron saying they were a part of the aero design etc
Byker28i said:
Surely the issue isn't how easy it is for a bloke on the internet can do with '2 minutes scribbling with a virtual sharpie marker' but actually all the tooling, molds, aero design work etc thats gone into it already. Changes now would be very costly and probably time consuming, when several people are already unhappy with the delays and time taken to produce this new car.
I highly doubt they've stumped up the considerable capital required to get production molds made. It's a clip on moulded plastic nose cone like on most modern cars. As shown here:
|https://thumbsnap.com/G061KkNB[/url]Obviously aero work was involved shaping it, and the "smiley" bits are the brake cooling duct intakes as seen here:
|https://thumbsnap.com/yd7Aqpui[/url]So to adjust the shape of the grill opening would make negligible real world difference to the aero/function, but a world of difference to the looks.
I also think painting the vent slats under the lights body color would mitigate the "run mascara/Pokémon" look the lights currently have.
I think the car overall looks great, but I don't think anyone deep down can honestly say they love current front end design. It's looks ok, but it could look a heck of a lot better with some simple design tweaks, and that's what I'm getting at. I want this car to be a roaring success. Anything that can be done to make it look as good as possible and mitigate the feature that's received the bulk of the criticism I'm all for playing around with mocking up alternate options.
We all know TVR read these pages, so where's the harm in helping them succeed with some constructive criticism from a wider audience than before?
Edited by dvs_dave on Friday 22 September 22:47
Is it only me that thinks the grill is somewhat Ford looking, not a bad thing if it becomes slightly more GT40 than Focus!
Ford engine and all.
As the pictures above show, it's a mighty looking car under the skin and maybe the brilliance there is what's going to make it a world beater and the grill shape will matter less when your beating the opposition.
This is a race car afterall and Lez has wanted to take it racing since he started out with the project, this car suggests that's a serious prospect.
An American engine, might do well in the states,,, imagine if they buy it in droves.
Are they not looking to tie in with Ford, use the network for service etc, seems easier to train Ford technitions than somehow create a network around the existing Tvr network which deals with a few old cars at best!
These are privately owned garages, Ford have slightly better facilities you'd think.
Looking at this new cars engineering,,, how do you change the spark plugs,,
For 100K I don't suppose many owners will be changing them themselves
Nobody has mentioned the roof line which at first looked a little Ginetta to me but slowly I'm getting used to it.
You have to hand it to the people involved as the GM team seem to have created a very interesting car.
Let's hope it's devilishly fast and stays slimmed down and light.
Ford engine and all.
As the pictures above show, it's a mighty looking car under the skin and maybe the brilliance there is what's going to make it a world beater and the grill shape will matter less when your beating the opposition.
This is a race car afterall and Lez has wanted to take it racing since he started out with the project, this car suggests that's a serious prospect.
An American engine, might do well in the states,,, imagine if they buy it in droves.
Are they not looking to tie in with Ford, use the network for service etc, seems easier to train Ford technitions than somehow create a network around the existing Tvr network which deals with a few old cars at best!
These are privately owned garages, Ford have slightly better facilities you'd think.
Looking at this new cars engineering,,, how do you change the spark plugs,,
For 100K I don't suppose many owners will be changing them themselves
Nobody has mentioned the roof line which at first looked a little Ginetta to me but slowly I'm getting used to it.
You have to hand it to the people involved as the GM team seem to have created a very interesting car.
Let's hope it's devilishly fast and stays slimmed down and light.
Shmee said:
DonkeyApple said:
They wanted me to procure a new car which they would then drive around for a few months making out it was theirs in exchange for promoting my brokerage. I would be expected to cover their expenses as well. I called around a few brokerages to ask their opinion and they said it was normal and that's how the deals worked.
That sounds very deceitful if it was done in such a discrete way but quite intriguing, maybe I'm doing this very wrong! I just walk into dealerships and pay deposits/sign orders for the cars I like I ran both an M4 and then X6 M550d as fleet cars from BMW, and an RS6 1/12 from Abt, but all were very clearly marked and described as such. I've not had a dealer/broker provide me with a car or even any involvement outside of when I want to sell one!
It's something that is rife in the lifestyle arena and it was only a matter of time before it appeared in the car side. The offshore binary betting end of my industry appears to have leapt at this and asking around fellow U.K. brokers I was given the impression that these deals were how most of the new cars were covered, via product or service endorsements as many appear to have been approached for deals.
So it's pleasing to learn that there are two clear ends to your industry as there are mine.
Classic Chim said:
Is it only me that thinks the grill is somewhat Ford looking, not a bad thing if it becomes slightly more GT40 than Focus!
Ford engine and all.
As the pictures above show, it's a mighty looking car under the skin and maybe the brilliance there is what's going to make it a world beater and the grill shape will matter less when your beating the opposition.
This is a race car afterall and Lez has wanted to take it racing since he started out with the project, this car suggests that's a serious prospect.
An American engine, might do well in the states,,, imagine if they buy it in droves.
Are they not looking to tie in with Ford, use the network for service etc, seems easier to train Ford technitions than somehow create a network around the existing Tvr network which deals with a few old cars at best!
These are privately owned garages, Ford have slightly better facilities you'd think.
Looking at this new cars engineering,,, how do you change the spark plugs,,
For 100K I don't suppose many owners will be changing them themselves
Nobody has mentioned the roof line which at first looked a little Ginetta to me but slowly I'm getting used to it.
You have to hand it to the people involved as the GM team seem to have created a very interesting car.
Let's hope it's devilishly fast and stays slimmed down and light.
It is an an American V8... why would the spark plugs need changing very often..Ford engine and all.
As the pictures above show, it's a mighty looking car under the skin and maybe the brilliance there is what's going to make it a world beater and the grill shape will matter less when your beating the opposition.
This is a race car afterall and Lez has wanted to take it racing since he started out with the project, this car suggests that's a serious prospect.
An American engine, might do well in the states,,, imagine if they buy it in droves.
Are they not looking to tie in with Ford, use the network for service etc, seems easier to train Ford technitions than somehow create a network around the existing Tvr network which deals with a few old cars at best!
These are privately owned garages, Ford have slightly better facilities you'd think.
Looking at this new cars engineering,,, how do you change the spark plugs,,
For 100K I don't suppose many owners will be changing them themselves
Nobody has mentioned the roof line which at first looked a little Ginetta to me but slowly I'm getting used to it.
You have to hand it to the people involved as the GM team seem to have created a very interesting car.
Let's hope it's devilishly fast and stays slimmed down and light.
this car has been designed for low maintenance, high reliability
I cannot believe why nobody mentioned the new TVR brochure so far?
Got this on my desk in the office the Monday after Goodwood and I was wondering who got that brochure earlier than me? Later I found out that a colleague spent his weekend at Goodwood and had in mind that I am TVR addicted.
Seems to be the first brochure for years and shows the best picture of the rear in my opinion. The side view is good as well, that orange suits the car very well!
Got this on my desk in the office the Monday after Goodwood and I was wondering who got that brochure earlier than me? Later I found out that a colleague spent his weekend at Goodwood and had in mind that I am TVR addicted.
Seems to be the first brochure for years and shows the best picture of the rear in my opinion. The side view is good as well, that orange suits the car very well!
dvs_dave said:
Byker28i said:
Surely the issue isn't how easy it is for a bloke on the internet can do with '2 minutes scribbling with a virtual sharpie marker' but actually all the tooling, molds, aero design work etc thats gone into it already. Changes now would be very costly and probably time consuming, when several people are already unhappy with the delays and time taken to produce this new car.
I highly doubt they've stumped up the considerable capital required to get production molds made. It's a clip on moulded plastic nose cone like on most modern cars. As shown here:|https://thumbsnap.com/G061KkNB[/url]Obviously aero work was involved shaping it, and the "smiley" bits are the brake cooling duct intakes as seen here:
|https://thumbsnap.com/yd7Aqpui[/url]So to adjust the shape of the grill opening would make negligible real world difference to the aero/function, but a world of difference to the looks.
I also think painting the vent slats under the lights body color would mitigate the "run mascara/Pokémon" look the lights currently have.
I think the car overall looks great, but I don't think anyone deep down can honestly say they love current front end design. It's looks ok, but it could look a heck of a lot better with some simple design tweaks, and that's what I'm getting at. I want this car to be a roaring success. Anything that can be done to make it look as good as possible and mitigate the feature that's received the bulk of the criticism I'm all for playing around with mocking up alternate options.
We all know TVR read these pages, so where's the harm in helping them succeed with some constructive criticism from a wider audience than before?
Granturadriver said:
I cannot believe why nobody mentioned the new TVR brochure so far?
Got this on my desk in the office the Monday after Goodwood and I was wondering who got that brochure earlier than me? Later I found out that a colleague spent his weekend at Goodwood and had in mind that I am TVR addicted.
Seems to be the first brochure for years and shows the best picture of the rear in my opinion. The side view is good as well, that orange suits the car very well!
They did.... screen caps buried quite a few pages back.. the rear end will I think be heavily used in marketing. (as was the second gen, Griff) Got this on my desk in the office the Monday after Goodwood and I was wondering who got that brochure earlier than me? Later I found out that a colleague spent his weekend at Goodwood and had in mind that I am TVR addicted.
Seems to be the first brochure for years and shows the best picture of the rear in my opinion. The side view is good as well, that orange suits the car very well!
I actually think as a complete package it looks fantastic and wish I could afford one! I do think it will be by far the best engineered TVR in history and I completely agree with the poster earlier who said that this is TVR evolving to a totally new stratosphere of professional competence. In many ways they're no longer the man in a shed, sculpted by a dog and engineered on the back of a fag packet that they once were. For some this will be a little sad but I think it's a necessity if they are to remain a formidable player in the long term.
Having said all that I agree that if there is a weak side to the car it is the front. I still think the 1990's Griff was one of the most perfect designs ever penned and the front is just stunning - yes, better than the new Griffith. It manages to be very curvaceous, pure, timeless and yet slightly menacing all at the same time. I think much of that is down to the fairing of the front headlights which is just so right and I think if they could find a way of incorporating the lines of the original Griffith headlights into the new Griff they would have a better looking car.
I do think this is a superior nose design:
It would also play the heritage card if they could incorporate it.
Saxon
Having said all that I agree that if there is a weak side to the car it is the front. I still think the 1990's Griff was one of the most perfect designs ever penned and the front is just stunning - yes, better than the new Griffith. It manages to be very curvaceous, pure, timeless and yet slightly menacing all at the same time. I think much of that is down to the fairing of the front headlights which is just so right and I think if they could find a way of incorporating the lines of the original Griffith headlights into the new Griff they would have a better looking car.
I do think this is a superior nose design:
It would also play the heritage card if they could incorporate it.
Saxon
Edited by saxon on Saturday 23 September 20:50
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