New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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nawarne

3,090 posts

260 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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RichB said:
T4NGO said:
Seem to remember Mr Edgar was something to do with AM?
Not to the best of my knowledge other than owning an older one.
Les Edgar was instrumental in getting AM back into GT racing - along with Prodrive/Mr. Richards.

Don't know what financial involvement there was, but he was involved.

Nick

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Testarossa said:
Rosse said:
Testarossa said:
DonkeyApple said:
Best solution is to simply imagine that you placed your deposit via a dealer and then you can imagine all the lies they would be making up each month to keep you happy as they wouldn’t be getting anything from the manufacturer either.

TVRs main issue at this point is that they don’t have the network of dealers who during this phase would be busy tromboning the waiting clients with glorious fabrications.
So true!
Does a deposit at a dealership have more legal securety than the actual deposit at TVR?
If you pay by credit card, it doesn't matter where you pay, if the product is not provided, regardless of reason, the credit card provider refunds you.

Unless the purchase price is less than £100 I think
I wouldn't bet on on that one. You paid for a "deposit", you got a "deposit". You did not yet buy a car. Also, i'm sure there is a time-limit during which this must be raised. So paying a deposit in 2016 by credit-card will not help you much if you don't get your deposit back in 2019 because the company went bust.



Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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bullittmcqueen said:
Testarossa said:
Rosse said:
Testarossa said:
DonkeyApple said:
Best solution is to simply imagine that you placed your deposit via a dealer and then you can imagine all the lies they would be making up each month to keep you happy as they wouldn’t be getting anything from the manufacturer either.

TVRs main issue at this point is that they don’t have the network of dealers who during this phase would be busy tromboning the waiting clients with glorious fabrications.
So true!
Does a deposit at a dealership have more legal securety than the actual deposit at TVR?
If you pay by credit card, it doesn't matter where you pay, if the product is not provided, regardless of reason, the credit card provider refunds you.

Unless the purchase price is less than £100 I think
I wouldn't bet on on that one. You paid for a "deposit", you got a "deposit". You did not yet buy a car. Also, i'm sure there is a time-limit during which this must be raised. So paying a deposit in 2016 by credit-card will not help you much if you don't get your deposit back in 2019 because the company went bust.
That's my understanding as well. I'm very risk averse and alarm bells rang for me when it was first stated deposits would not be protected under escrow. In fact I seem to recall TVR starting that if people wanted a guarantee they should pay by c/c???
I wish the new venture well but if this was any other start up I feel people would have laughed them off a long time ago.

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Zippee said:
That's my understanding as well. I'm very risk averse and alarm bells rang for me when it was first stated deposits would not be protected under escrow. In fact I seem to recall TVR starting that if people wanted a guarantee they should pay by c/c???
I wish the new venture well but if this was any other start up I feel people would have laughed them off a long time ago.
I remember this discussion from a few months ago and someone has brought up this "implied" credit-card insurance before, but i don't think it was TVR ?

I am risk-averse, too, but decided it would be a loss i a) could take and b) that had a low probability. Surely they spent much more than the measly deposits already, so relying on deposits would have been a non-starter anyway.

Testarossa

1,050 posts

221 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Well, that told me!

I only have Chartered Institute of Banking Law module knowledge to go on, but I am not worried at all. More fool me perhaps. Les, if you are listening, make sure the car is worth the 90K by a mile because I have faith in you. If it doesn't happen, how much do you want for the red one with the fixed rear wing and the fish eyes?

PS: If vauxhall and ford can make great looking DRLs, not to mention the cool citroens/bms and audis, why have we just got a tube light to look at? Or will they be ultraviolet so the bugs can be attracted to them instead of the front grill?

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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T4NGO said:
ooh mr negative replies smile took a little longer than normal...

we get it, you hate tvr, you want this to fail
Clearly my eye for detail is far supreme to yours, or perhaps you just recognise basic shapes.

T4NGO

384 posts

236 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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m4tti said:
Clearly my eye for detail is far supreme to yours, or perhaps you just recognise basic shapes.
ooh, some more of your superior know it all drivel. Shame there isn't a way I can block your pointless negative posts
Perhaps you haven't quite grasped the idea that 'looking similar in a few places', is different to 'detailed', in your desperation to be an arse about everything.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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RichB said:
T4NGO said:
Seem to remember Mr Edgar was something to do with AM?
Not to the best of my knowledge other than owning an older one.
Very old piece from Motorsport.com..


Michael Cane and his GTC Motorsport team have begun preparations for Le Mans 2002 with Aston Martin. Aston's engineers are now working on a three-month feasibility study commissioned by long-standing customer, computer millionaire Les Edgar who has retained the services of Britain's Chris Goodwin to advise and participate in the project. There is no guarantee, however, that Aston Martin will actually support a Le Mans bid, or the development of a production model for GT racing.

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m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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T4NGO said:
ooh, some more of your superior know it all drivel. Shame there isn't a way I can block your pointless negative posts
Perhaps you haven't quite grasped the idea that 'looking similar in a few places', is different to 'detailed', in your desperation to be an arse about everything.
Oh yeah I grasp it.. “looks similar” .. yep lots of things look similar to the new tvr if you squint. Ferrari 612, z4, a T350 the list is endless.

That Vulcan no. And the link to Edgar is tenuous as it wasn’t related to design.

As for blocking I suggest you hold the power button in on your phone, the screen should go dark and you won’t see naughty realistic posts.


Testarossa

1,050 posts

221 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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m4tti said:
T4NGO said:
ooh, some more of your superior know it all drivel. Shame there isn't a way I can block your pointless negative posts
Perhaps you haven't quite grasped the idea that 'looking similar in a few places', is different to 'detailed', in your desperation to be an arse about everything.
Oh yeah I grasp it.. “looks similar” .. yep lots of things look similar to the new tvr if you squint. Ferrari 612, z4, a T350 the list is endless.

That Vulcan no. And the link to Edgar is tenuous as it wasn’t related to design.

As for blocking I suggest you hold the power button in on your phone, the screen should go dark and you won’t see naughty realistic posts.

Not seen this angle before. The griffith looks ace smile

Roll on 2019...


m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Testarossa said:
Not seen this angle before. The griffith looks ace smile

Roll on 2019...
It’s probably an acquired taste. I quite like it, but the design remit on these wasn’t to be road legal.

GetCarter

29,379 posts

279 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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m4tti said:
T4NGO said:
ooh, some more of your superior know it all drivel. Shame there isn't a way I can block your pointless negative posts
Perhaps you haven't quite grasped the idea that 'looking similar in a few places', is different to 'detailed', in your desperation to be an arse about everything.
Oh yeah I grasp it.. “looks similar” .. yep lots of things look similar to the new tvr if you squint. Ferrari 612, z4, a T350 the list is endless.

That Vulcan no. And the link to Edgar is tenuous as it wasn’t related to design.

As for blocking I suggest you hold the power button in on your phone, the screen should go dark and you won’t see naughty realistic posts.

/\ Two TVR enthusiasts/buyers smile

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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GetCarter said:
/\ Two TVR enthusiasts/buyers smile
Some are less sensitive than others hehe

T4NGO

384 posts

236 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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m4tti said:
Oh yeah I grasp it.. “looks similar” .. yep lots of things look similar to the new tvr if you squint. Ferrari 612, z4, a T350 the list is endless.

That Vulcan no. And the link to Edgar is tenuous as it wasn’t related to design.

As for blocking I suggest you hold the power button in on your phone, the screen should go dark and you won’t see naughty realistic posts.

You're right, (for once) I could turn phone off, and not see any sensible posts. but that's a bit drastic missing out on all them just to stop your nonsense. Besides, before I get dragged down to your level, I feel I've already spent way too much of my life conversing with you, its all wasted time I wont get back sadly.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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T4NGO said:
You're right, (for once) I could turn phone off, and not see any sensible posts. but that's a bit drastic missing out on all them just to stop your nonsense. Besides, before I get dragged down to your level, I feel I've already spent way too much of my life conversing with you, its all wasted time I wont get back sadly.
Anything else to get off your chest dear.

RichB

51,568 posts

284 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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T4NGO said:
Was watching a 'grand tour' last night. The one with a 1.8m AM Vulcan. Seem to remember Mr Edgar was something to do with AM?
Is the Griffith a budget road legal Vulcan? Certainly looks similar in a few places. I know lots of cars look similar nowadays, but sort the front more badass like this, and we have working mans Vulcan smile
Sorry Tango, other than being GT cars and a similar colour there is no similarity. And that's not me siding with anyone on your argument just me being factual. hehe

T4NGO

384 posts

236 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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RichB said:
Sorry Tango, other than being GT cars and a similar colour there is no similarity. And that's not me siding with anyone on your argument just me being factual. hehe
hey its no biggy, I've lost interest in it now, that troll bored me again lol

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Right, if you girls have stopped trading insults I'll post this again wink


ChilliWhizz said:
RichB said:
T4NGO said:
Seem to remember Mr Edgar was something to do with AM?
Not to the best of my knowledge other than owning an older one.
Very old piece from Motorsport.com..


Michael Cane and his GTC Motorsport team have begun preparations for Le Mans 2002 with Aston Martin. Aston's engineers are now working on a three-month feasibility study commissioned by long-standing customer, computer millionaire Les Edgar who has retained the services of Britain's Chris Goodwin to advise and participate in the project. There is no guarantee, however, that Aston Martin will actually support a Le Mans bid, or the development of a production model for GT racing.

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m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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T4NGO said:
hey its no biggy, I've lost interest in it now, that troll bored me again lol
So letting you know there’s very little in common between a Vulcan and the new Griffith is trolling... very strange.

trev4

740 posts

162 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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I know there is a eminent on here that would love this project to fail just so they could say I told you so but what they forget is the people who have embarked on this project are not starry eyed dreamers, they are highly successful business and engineering people who are putting there considerable reputations on the line, if you are hoping for failure I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.
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