New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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Hayek

8,969 posts

208 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Still pretty sure the car would look better with the black bit behind the side exhaust exit painted in body colour.

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

225 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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The grille is a nod to Peter Wheeler who loved his Aston Martins, for the Chimaera he took the Aston grille design and turned it upside down. The new Griffith grille apes that design

dvs_dave

8,624 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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PuffsBack said:
The grille is a nod to Peter Wheeler who loved his Aston Martins, for the Chimaera he took the Aston grille design and turned it upside down. The new Griffith grille apes that design
It’s nothing like an upside down Aston grille, so a miserable fail if that was the intention. confused


If they were trying to subtly link the design to another car, then if anything it should have taken its inspiration from the Mustang given the actual direct links to it. If the grill was shaped like the Mustang’s it would look immeasurably better.

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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The Chimaera originally had the grille the correct way up but John Ravenscroft was concerned about plagiarism so they inverted (and slightly flattened) it

  • taken from Ralphs excellernt book "Cars of the Peter Wheeler Years"
This is clearly the link the new Griffiths designers were trying to emulate - whether successful or not is a matter of opinion. I took one look and could immediately see the link (but I have owned a Chimaera) The more you look there are lots of little nods to the past (the 3/4 Window - T350/Sag) the scalloped doors (PW cars), slight roof bubbles (Sag)



Edited by PuffsBack on Tuesday 16th January 08:02

Speed 3

4,564 posts

119 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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dvs_dave said:
It’s nothing like an upside down Aston grille, so a miserable fail if that was the intention. confused
I wouldn't say it's nothing like , it always did remind of the Aston's, even before I read the quote about Wheeler.

[url]|https://thumbsnap.com/Q4y0NZJN/url]

Not a miserable fail to me.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Despite what a minority of people on here seem to be saying, we do naturaly see faces in cars the phenomenon is called paeidolia, and the ‘expression’ on the face definitely matters to buyers.

Time after time, research indicates people prefer cars to have masculine, dominating (the stairs) and slightly angry faces.

It’s remarkable at least to design a masculine powerful sports car like a TVR and put a gormless smile on it,

Check out the faces of Aston Martin over the years. Masculine, purposeful a bit angry looking.



Even the preview pictures showed a more masculine face.



But instead this was made.



Which is totally at odds with the rear and side of the car, which are much more aggressive looking, Did GM design the whole car? It looks more like he did most of it and then left and someone else did the front.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Its just the same as the sketch. Maybe it just needs some teeth?

The red colour also gives it a "happy" look. Dark colours would be more purposeful.

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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phazed said:
Its just the same as the sketch.
Glad it wasn't just me.. It looks exactly the same as the sketch!

DonkeyApple

55,269 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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What doesn’t help is that the photo was taken by an estate agent. I suspect a photo taken with a normal camera might lesson the effect a fair bit?

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Jhonno said:
phazed said:
Its just the same as the sketch.
Glad it wasn't just me.. It looks exactly the same as the sketch!
Yep, i agree. But two points must be added to get a fair comparison: first, the sketch is probably "impossible" to actually see from a perspective-technical point of view and second, the fish-eye photo shot is surely the worst possible angle and technique from which to look at the car as it adds so much "roundness" to the look.

That and the higher contrast in the sketch is why the sketch looks rougher and edgier than the photo. And, i agree, the front really does does look better in the sketch.




Edited by bullittmcqueen on Tuesday 16th January 11:21

BJWoods

5,015 posts

284 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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I like it... and I think more than enough people will also like it. general public comments heard at Autosport were all very positive.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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We must not forget that there will be a numberplate somewhere!

CanoeSniffer

927 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Seeing the car at autosport I was shocked by how good it looked in the flesh. I also got to have a lengthy chat with the PR man (forget his name) who said that the market for spiders isn't big enough, which is fair comment as most people asking are enthusiasts of 'old TVR' and there's no guarantee the design will find a market outside of those.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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That frontal shot doesn't do it or probably any car any favours.

An unflattering view imho.



A different angle. Much better.



I like the new car and when I get my inheritance, I'm on the list wink

swisstoni

16,996 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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phazed said:
That frontal shot doesn't do it or probably any car any favours.

An unflattering view imho.

Ooh look Mummy. That car's laughing! rolleyes

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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phazed said:
We must not forget that there will be a numberplate somewhere!
Top of the dashboard seems to be the trend.

tighnamara

2,189 posts

153 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
Seeing the car at autosport I was shocked by how good it looked in the flesh. I also got to have a lengthy chat with the PR man (forget his name) who said that the market for spiders isn't big enough, which is fair comment as most people asking are enthusiasts of 'old TVR' and there's no guarantee the design will find a market outside of those.
Interesting that they have a PR man, I wonder who he PR's with when not at shows.
Would be good to see him having the website updated now and again and possibly communicating a bit better on when the car is being shown so deposit holders can plan to see it.

I really like the car and would be a first time TVR owner but something just grinds with me on their customer focus. It is early days so will put it down to not having many people for now.




limpsfield

5,884 posts

253 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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https://twitter.com/NickServini/status/95325035412...

@WelshGovernment confirms it has bought 3% stake in sports car maker TVR for £500,000, as well as £2m loan ahead of production in Ebbw Vale.

Moycie

536 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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RichB said:
Two of the best designs TVR ever produced...

Agreed! It was always the Griff 500 for me, then the Cerbera. So I had to have them.

Someone mentioned the price of the new Griffith....always interesting to look back on my own TVR's in today's money (roughly):

My Griff 500 @ £36,680 (2000 base) --> £58,456 approx today
My Cerbera @ £46,500 (2003 invoice, I think, off my head) --> £69,495 approx today


What about the Cerbera Speed 12 @ £188,000 (2000) ---> £299,615 approx today


Anyways, that aside, I'm looking forward to more information on the new Griffith and will wait to see what happens during 2018. My deposit is still in play.



Moycie said:
These are from TVR Cards



GlennT said:
Thought this might be of interest, not sure where I downloaded it from, but here are the price lists from 2007




Edited by Moycie on Tuesday 16th January 13:53

spagbogdog

764 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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..a full list of their Shareholders is easily accessible and I imagine formed part of the ‘dd’ for all those (including myself) that have placed deposits.
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