New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
Jhonno said:
swisstoni said:
So we are now expecting the new TVR to hold its own against used supercars?
Apparently so..
Definitely... says so on the web site. So putting it against an old Mclaren must be in the Griffiths favour surely. What with the Mclaren being a used older generation super car
A used supercar is a no brainer then. Just 6 years old and I've even saved you a few bob.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
swisstoni said:
A used supercar is a no brainer then. Just 6 years old and I've even saved you a few bob.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Crikey... didn’t realise they’d dropped below 90k... need to stick with Audi till the project house is done. But that is an amazing amount of car for the money. https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Jhonno said:
swisstoni said:
So we are now expecting the new TVR to hold its own against used supercars?
Apparently so..Obligatory Caveat: provided they change the
of a frontswisstoni said:
A used supercar is a no brainer then. Just 6 years old and I've even saved you a few bob.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I know which I’d rather have. And I love TVRs https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
That is nice.
But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Testarossa said:
That is nice.
But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
I much prefer the ‘v’ crease behind the front wheels...But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Gives the immediate impression of speed .. even when stood still...
Testarossa said:
That is nice.
But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Very true, all the pics so far are just artists impressions so could end up stunning or just meh like the Griff.But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Testarossa said:
That is nice.
But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
The key being "artists impression"But will the production model look like that?
Does everybody remember the artist's impressions of the griffith?
I loved it.
A lot of people would have said too much like morgan/weissman or old fashioned etc etc but even if it drove like a 2cv with dodgy steering and a puncture, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
They have used all the normal "artist" tricks to make it look good, none of which can be done in reality:
1) impossibly tight clearance between tyres and arch (no room to steer or for the wheels to go up and down)
2) impossibly low cabin (the windows are less than half the height of the wheels!)
3) impossibly tight package (the engine would be in the drivers lap)
4) impossibly low roof line (driving that thing, with a crick in your neck would get quite old, quite quickly!)
5) impossible ride height and approach angles / clearance (would get stuck on kerbs, speed bumps and even pot holes)
To make a real car look good, well that's actually incredibly difficult, especially if you want quality surfacing too, something still done mainly with full scale painted clay.... (surfacing broadly is the exact shape of the panels, and how there curves blend, so that light reflected off them does so in a pleasing way, most low volume cars have terrible surfacing, even if the actual shape is pleasing)
I am sure you are right and artists are not engineers etc.
But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
Testarossa said:
I am sure you are right and artists are not engineers etc.
But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
Oi...Ginga..!!!!But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
Get a f
ing grip..That thing’s shhhhhhiiiiiiiite
m4tti said:
Hello GB,
Have read your posts with interest. It’s good to have input from one of the (for me) TVR golden era team!
What would you do to take the front of the new car from stinker to jaw dropper?
Very little. Assuming the front end isn't a structural component and is a clam-shell. It looks to me if you study the actual car versus the tape drawing that most of the CAD modelling has been done and approved with perspective turned off. It is a schoolboy error but to be honest, there is no substitute to working full size in 3D as earlier TVR's were developed. The latest and greenest CAD jockeys and designers who don't have the benefit of working like that, only see the benefits of time saved and the ability to render the concept dreamt of the day before almost instantly. Then they press the make button on the CNC machine and suffer the fallout..Have read your posts with interest. It’s good to have input from one of the (for me) TVR golden era team!
What would you do to take the front of the new car from stinker to jaw dropper?
In terms of the styling itself, like I have already said; it is way too dull. To delve deeper, the glasshouse is too wooden, the rear is too contrived and the silhouette is too predictable and rear biased in terms of volume, The windscreen lacks wrap, the whole form lacks drama and then there is the face!
There have been Photoshop versions, presumably by keen enthusiasts on here, that have virtually saved it. Certainly made it look credible.
The headlights are too far apart. I am single at the moment and nothing makes me swipe left faster. Then there is the grin. Great looking sports cars need to be expressionless, sinister looking or preferably look like they are about to rip your head off imho, The current car looks like a loving Labrador runt that wants to lick your face. I still would never buy a runt. Expression and originality are key and it fails dramatically on both of these key elements.
No excuse for not sorting the clam shell though as the tooling involved would be insignificant in terms of cost. I would pay for it myself if I was a deposit holder. Maybe even laminate it myself as I would be so desperate to fix it!
spagbogdog said:
Testarossa said:
I am sure you are right and artists are not engineers etc.
But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
Oi...Ginga..!!!!But smaller wheels, more of a clearance etc etc - it would not harm the looks that much surely?
I mean, look at the Wiesmann for example.
yes, it would look more like an artist's impression if it was slammed even more, but as a road legal car - it's gorgeous wouldn't you say?
Get a f
ing grip..That thing’s shhhhhhiiiiiiiite
Hurts.
To: dearles@tvrmanufacturing.co.uk
From: testarossa@pistonheads.co.uk
Date: 22nd August 2018
Good morning Team
Testarossa
From: testarossa@pistonheads.co.uk
Date: 22nd August 2018
Good morning Team
GB8CH said:
Very little. Assuming the front end isn't a structural component and is a clam-shell. It looks to me if you study the actual car versus the tape drawing that most of the CAD modelling has been done and approved with perspective turned off. It is a schoolboy error but to be honest, there is no substitute to working full size in 3D as earlier TVR's were developed. The latest and greenest CAD jockeys and designers who don't have the benefit of working like that, only see the benefits of time saved and the ability to render the concept dreamt of the day before almost instantly. Then they press the make button on the CNC machine and suffer the fallout..
In terms of the styling itself, like I have already said; it is way too dull. To delve deeper, the glasshouse is too wooden, the rear is too contrived and the silhouette is too predictable and rear biased in terms of volume, The windscreen lacks wrap, the whole form lacks drama and then there is the face!
There have been Photoshop versions, presumably by keen enthusiasts on here, that have virtually saved it. Certainly made it look credible.
The headlights are too far apart. I am single at the moment and nothing makes me swipe left faster. Then there is the grin. Great looking sports cars need to be expressionless, sinister looking or preferably look like they are about to rip your head off imho, The current car looks like a loving Labrador runt that wants to lick your face. I still would never buy a runt. Expression and originality are key and it fails dramatically on both of these key elements.
No excuse for not sorting the clam shell though as the tooling involved would be insignificant in terms of cost. I would pay for it myself if I was a deposit holder. Maybe even laminate it myself as I would be so desperate to fix it!
Kind regardsIn terms of the styling itself, like I have already said; it is way too dull. To delve deeper, the glasshouse is too wooden, the rear is too contrived and the silhouette is too predictable and rear biased in terms of volume, The windscreen lacks wrap, the whole form lacks drama and then there is the face!
There have been Photoshop versions, presumably by keen enthusiasts on here, that have virtually saved it. Certainly made it look credible.
The headlights are too far apart. I am single at the moment and nothing makes me swipe left faster. Then there is the grin. Great looking sports cars need to be expressionless, sinister looking or preferably look like they are about to rip your head off imho, The current car looks like a loving Labrador runt that wants to lick your face. I still would never buy a runt. Expression and originality are key and it fails dramatically on both of these key elements.
No excuse for not sorting the clam shell though as the tooling involved would be insignificant in terms of cost. I would pay for it myself if I was a deposit holder. Maybe even laminate it myself as I would be so desperate to fix it!
Testarossa
GB8CH said:
Very little. Assuming the front end isn't a structural component and is a clam-shell. It looks to me if you study the actual car versus the tape drawing that most of the CAD modelling has been done and approved with perspective turned off. It is a schoolboy error but to be honest, there is no substitute to working full size in 3D as earlier TVR's were developed. The latest and greenest CAD jockeys and designers who don't have the benefit of working like that, only see the benefits of time saved and the ability to render the concept dreamt of the day before almost instantly. Then they press the make button on the CNC machine and suffer the fallout..
In terms of the styling itself, like I have already said; it is way too dull. To delve deeper, the glasshouse is too wooden, the rear is too contrived and the silhouette is too predictable and rear biased in terms of volume, The windscreen lacks wrap, the whole form lacks drama and then there is the face!
There have been Photoshop versions, presumably by keen enthusiasts on here, that have virtually saved it. Certainly made it look credible.
The headlights are too far apart. I am single at the moment and nothing makes me swipe left faster. Then there is the grin. Great looking sports cars need to be expressionless, sinister looking or preferably look like they are about to rip your head off imho, The current car looks like a loving Labrador runt that wants to lick your face. I still would never buy a runt. Expression and originality are key and it fails dramatically on both of these key elements.
No excuse for not sorting the clam shell though as the tooling involved would be insignificant in terms of cost. I would pay for it myself if I was a deposit holder. Maybe even laminate it myself as I would be so desperate to fix it!
I suppose that Labrador runt implies a degree cuteness. To be clear, I was talking about a dog so misshapen that it will remain homeless. I suppose I used the Labrador puppy analogy, because it is so tempting to take it home anyway and hope that it's gossiness mends with maturity. I have been mulling that since my last post.In terms of the styling itself, like I have already said; it is way too dull. To delve deeper, the glasshouse is too wooden, the rear is too contrived and the silhouette is too predictable and rear biased in terms of volume, The windscreen lacks wrap, the whole form lacks drama and then there is the face!
There have been Photoshop versions, presumably by keen enthusiasts on here, that have virtually saved it. Certainly made it look credible.
The headlights are too far apart. I am single at the moment and nothing makes me swipe left faster. Then there is the grin. Great looking sports cars need to be expressionless, sinister looking or preferably look like they are about to rip your head off imho, The current car looks like a loving Labrador runt that wants to lick your face. I still would never buy a runt. Expression and originality are key and it fails dramatically on both of these key elements.
No excuse for not sorting the clam shell though as the tooling involved would be insignificant in terms of cost. I would pay for it myself if I was a deposit holder. Maybe even laminate it myself as I would be so desperate to fix it!
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