New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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unrepentant said:
When I first saw an E-Type ......
Funny you mention the E-type....

Go look at a front-on picture of it now on google, and tell me you don't see a 'Fish' with a gapping mouth as well hehe

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
... look at a front-on picture of it now on google, and tell me you don't see a 'Fish' with a gapping mouth as well hehe
Nope... looks rather good to me! biggrin


swisstoni

16,985 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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I'm convinced there's only a small subset of adults who still regularly see faces in cars. Perhaps Thomas The Tank Engine had some detrimental effect in their formative years.

Driving about today I forced myself to find faces on vehicles and with some effort it's possible. But only with conscious effort.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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swisstoni said:
I'm convinced there's only a small subset of adults who still regularly see faces in cars. Perhaps Thomas The Tank Engine had some detrimental effect in their formative years.

Driving about today I forced myself to find faces on vehicles and with some effort it's possible. But only with conscious effort.
It’s quite normal and called pereidolia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

“This robust and subtle capability is hypothesized to be the result of eons of natural selection favoring people most able to quickly identify the mental state, for example, of threatening people, thus providing the individual an opportunity to flee or attack pre-emptively. In other words, processing this information subcortically — therefore subconsciously — before it is passed on to the rest of the brain for detailed processing accelerates judgment and decision making when a fast reaction is needed.”

Unfortunately if you can’t see faces in cars or other objects, it’s you with the lacking cognitive processes and you’d be more likely to be a victim of natural selection.

Car manufacturers have know this from the start.

“And when it comes to cars, the face does matter, even for laypeople. Research suggests that buyers tend to prefer cars with more aggressive, angry faces. Live Science details one study that showed car faces to people and asked their preferences. It turned out the people took mostly strong to cars that had “slit-like or angled headlights with a wider air intake”—faces with “power” traits.”

Smithsonian.



so called

9,086 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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swisstoni said:
I'm convinced there's only a small subset of adults who still regularly see faces in cars. Perhaps Thomas The Tank Engine had some detrimental effect in their formative years.

Driving about today I forced myself to find faces on vehicles and with some effort it's possible. But only with conscious effort.
Arrrr, who wants to be an adult matey? (said with a Pirate accent).

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Everyone will like this little gurner because in a society where consumers shop by price tag this one is telling them that it is great.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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DonkeyApple said:


Everyone will like this little gurner because in a society where consumers shop by price tag this one is telling them that it is great.
I think that look is great. It’s nothing to do with it being a Ferrari though. It’s about the visual appearance.

Surely the tvr is expensive enough to make people think it look is great if it was all about price?

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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El stovey said:
I think that look is great. It’s nothing to do with it being a Ferrari though. It’s about the visual appearance.

Surely the tvr is expensive enough to make people think it look is great if it was all about price?
It almost pulls of the traditional delicacy of Italian design but it has the gurning smile.

As for brand value, TVR is nowhere near the likes of Ferrari. Such brands are near Giffen/Veblen territory.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
It almost pulls of the traditional delicacy of Italian design but it has the gurning smile.

As for brand value, TVR is nowhere near the likes of Ferrari. Such brands are near Giffen/Veblen territory.
I don’t see the same gurning in that Ferrari though. The lights especially add a more menacing expression.

It’s about a combination of the lights and the grill. It’s not about cost at all.





With the TVR it’s not just the face though, it’s about how the car looks as a whole. Yes it’s got a silly face but the rest doesn’t seem to flow together. It looks like the front back and sides were designed by different people and they just stuck their sections together when they ran out of time.

spagbogdog

764 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Replace the horse with a cat and it looks like next gen SVR / O F-Type..

“reassuringly expensive” I think is the technical term the ad~men would have us believe...

Still DDG tho innit..!

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Stovey, price is hugely important in defining how people look at goods.

As for the rest of the car, I like it. I’m not seeing an issue with the lights, that discussion on this thread has gone over my head but I do see the issue with the grill. I prefer a car to look like someone has just farted in the lift rather than looking like there is an unexpected item in the bagging area.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Stovey, price is hugely important in defining how people look at goods.

As for the rest of the car, I like it. I’m not seeing an issue with the lights, that discussion on this thread has gone over my head but I do see the issue with the grill. I prefer a car to look like someone has just farted in the lift rather than looking like there is an unexpected item in the bagging area.
I agree entirely. I often see luxury goods or cars and think the branding is driving demand rather than the aesthetics. With cars though, it’s not a huge surprise if more upmarket brands are attracting better designers and producing more attractive designs. Obviously in hyper car territory like Bugatti and it’s also about producing OTT designs that might look a bit vulgar but they’re supposed to look expensive and outlandish,

I just don’t look at the Ferrari you showed us and think it looks silly or gurning.

swisstoni

16,985 posts

279 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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El stovey said:
swisstoni said:
I'm convinced there's only a small subset of adults who still regularly see faces in cars. Perhaps Thomas The Tank Engine had some detrimental effect in their formative years.

Driving about today I forced myself to find faces on vehicles and with some effort it's possible. But only with conscious effort.
It’s quite normal and called pereidolia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

“This robust and subtle capability is hypothesized to be the result of eons of natural selection favoring people most able to quickly identify the mental state, for example, of threatening people, thus providing the individual an opportunity to flee or attack pre-emptively. In other words, processing this information subcortically — therefore subconsciously — before it is passed on to the rest of the brain for detailed processing accelerates judgment and decision making when a fast reaction is needed.”

Unfortunately if you can’t see faces in cars or other objects, it’s you with the lacking cognitive processes and you’d be more likely to be a victim of natural selection.

Car manufacturers have know this from the start.

“And when it comes to cars, the face does matter, even for laypeople. Research suggests that buyers tend to prefer cars with more aggressive, angry faces. Live Science details one study that showed car faces to people and asked their preferences. It turned out the people took mostly strong to cars that had “slit-like or angled headlights with a wider air intake”—faces with “power” traits.”

Smithsonian.
Ah. What you've done there is conflate two different things.
One is the facility to interpret facial expressions on people and animals (ie things with faces in the first place hehe)
And the other is 'research' where people were shown some cars and asked 'which face do you prefer' thus presupposing there is a face to be looked for.

Clearly some people do see faces in things. It's whether its common or normal to do this all the time that I'm having trouble with.
No doubt its a jolly world to live in but I'm not sorry to be missing out.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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swisstoni said:
El stovey said:
swisstoni said:
I'm convinced there's only a small subset of adults who still regularly see faces in cars. Perhaps Thomas The Tank Engine had some detrimental effect in their formative years.

Driving about today I forced myself to find faces on vehicles and with some effort it's possible. But only with conscious effort.
It’s quite normal and called pereidolia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

“This robust and subtle capability is hypothesized to be the result of eons of natural selection favoring people most able to quickly identify the mental state, for example, of threatening people, thus providing the individual an opportunity to flee or attack pre-emptively. In other words, processing this information subcortically — therefore subconsciously — before it is passed on to the rest of the brain for detailed processing accelerates judgment and decision making when a fast reaction is needed.”

Unfortunately if you can’t see faces in cars or other objects, it’s you with the lacking cognitive processes and you’d be more likely to be a victim of natural selection.

Car manufacturers have know this from the start.

“And when it comes to cars, the face does matter, even for laypeople. Research suggests that buyers tend to prefer cars with more aggressive, angry faces. Live Science details one study that showed car faces to people and asked their preferences. It turned out the people took mostly strong to cars that had “slit-like or angled headlights with a wider air intake”—faces with “power” traits.”

Smithsonian.
Ah. What you've done there is conflate two different things.
One is the facility to interpret facial expressions on people and animals (ie things with faces in the first place hehe)
And the other is 'research' where people were shown some cars and asked 'which face do you prefer' thus presupposing there is a face to be looked for.

Clearly some people do see faces in things. It's whether its common or normal to do this all the time that I'm having trouble with.
No doubt its a jolly world to live in but I'm not sorry to be missing out.
They’re not two different things at all. Pareidolia is

“ . . a psychological phenomenon in which the mind responds to a stimulus, usually an image or a sound, by perceiving a familiar pattern where none exists

It is caused by.

“eons of natural selection favoring people most able to quickly identify the mental state, for example, of threatening people, thus providing the individual an opportunity to flee or attack pre-emptively. In other words, processing this information subcortically — therefore subconsciously — before it is passed on to the rest of the brain for detailed processing accelerates judgment and decision making when a fast reaction is needed”

The fact that we see faces naturally makes us then make judgements about the car by the expression on the face and research shows people prefer powerful and menacing expressions full of intent not gormless ones.


Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
unrepentant said:
When I first saw an E-Type ......
Funny you mention the E-type....

Go look at a front-on picture of it now on google, and tell me you don't see a 'Fish' with a gapping mouth as well hehe
laugh

Yep!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Here you go... courtesy of my 612. Yes the horse is flipped.


Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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RichB said:
As we're talking Astons, I think the lipstick on this one looks excellent!
Disapproving/Frowning eyes-check (no smiling Frank Sidebottom eyes)
Sneering/angry mouth-check (no tender guppying)

Result-looks brilliant, lipstick or not. It’s really not difficult

spagbogdog

764 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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thecook101 said:
Here you go... courtesy of my 612. Yes the horse is flipped.

This looks infinitely better than the Aston imo...I think choice of colour will play a big part with the Griff..

V8 GMS

727 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Nice image - any chance of one without the horse, and with a number plate? smile

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Driller said:
RichB said:
As we're talking Astons, I think the lipstick on this one looks excellent!
Disapproving/Frowning eyes-check (no smiling Frank Sidebottom eyes)
Sneering/angry mouth-check (no tender guppying)

Result-looks brilliant, lipstick or not. It’s really not difficult
That thing is hideous..
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