New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Congrats on Brexit, what a show !!

Brexit and the new TVR are totally interchangeable. Everyone wants one, but everyone wants a totally different one. Takes way longer than expected, lot's of chaos and uncertainty and in the end it vanishes or hits the wall.

The cherry on the irony is, that Brexit might actually truly end the TVR dream.

New GT 500 looks menacing, was one of the contenders should the TVR not materialize. But it's hard swallowing the transmission as there is no manual. Also, the supercharger sound is totally not doing it for me. Been also following the new Supra (not as an option, just curious, as the prototype looked great), but they utterly ruined it.

So, TVR you listen ? Go, we need your car !!!!






unrepentant

21,253 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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RBV8 said:
Article I spotted today in Autocar. I'm still positive!

That's pretty apt.

This whole thing has had a bit of a whiff of Fred Karno (I resist the urge to say Bernie Madoff) about it. The whole concept of taking deposits off people for a product that not only doesn't exist but has not even been properly sourced and then to keep them in the dark seems to be either extremely amateurish or more than a bit iffy.

bennno

11,607 posts

269 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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dvs_dave said:
A Griffith ‘S’ with the 700hp flat crank GT500 powertrain including the dual clutch gearbox for £150k spin

Hypercar Killer.....idea
Hopefully not, its should be much safer than earlier TVR's and will have ABS and Traction Control.

TwinKam

2,962 posts

95 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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bennno said:
dvs_dave said:
A Griffith ‘S’ with the 700hp flat crank GT500 powertrain including the dual clutch gearbox for £150k spin

Hypercar Killer.....idea
Hopefully not, its should be much safer than earlier TVR's and will have ABS and Traction Control.
I think you misread that last comment, bennno rotate

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Well that was the 15th out of the way.. and no update. All things considered.


bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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m4tti said:
Well that was the 15th out of the way.. and no update. All things considered.

Guys, i know you're enjoying this and i really don't want to ruin your bad mood, but if i recall correctly, it was only the official confirmation for the assignment of the refurbishment which should be out "around" the 15th. Also, they wanted to present more stuff by the end of January (or a week or two thereafter).

So, the 15th is not exactly a deadline !?


N7GTX

7,855 posts

143 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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This is the problem. The last update said they would tell us the works were under way on or shortly after the 15th January. So we should be a bit more patient - 'or shortly after'. Of course, putting definite dates does not help the cause as we all home in on them.
That aside, still no 'update' on the big reveal (exciting funding or joint venture or whatever) that was promised quite a while ago now, which in itself was promised in the previous 'update'.
Just wish they wouldn't keep missing their (own) deadlines.

8nil

603 posts

212 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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bullittmcqueen said:
Congrats on Brexit, what a show !!

Brexit and the new TVR are totally interchangeable. Everyone wants one, but everyone wants a totally different one. Takes way longer than expected, lot's of chaos and uncertainty and in the end it vanishes or hits the wall.

The cherry on the irony is, that Brexit might actually truly end the TVR dream.

New GT 500 looks menacing, was one of the contenders should the TVR not materialize. But it's hard swallowing the transmission as there is no manual. Also, the supercharger sound is totally not doing it for me. Been also following the new Supra (not as an option, just curious, as the prototype looked great), but they utterly ruined it.

So, TVR you listen ? Go, we need your car !!!!
Dry January is a waste of time for deposit holders. Ha! Sanity is only to be found in the midst of a Dalmore 18!

I did read in "Track n' Road" or some other confederate flag waving p1sh that the head of Ford Performance was quoted that (in reference to the GT500) "The customer base is telling us that a manual box is essential, and we are hearing that loud and clear"

So a manual box could rock up, making it a compelling option.....


Edited by 8nil on Wednesday 16th January 07:20

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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8nil said:
Dry January is a waste of time for deposit holders. Ha! Sanity is only to be found in the midst of a Dalmore 18!

I did read in "Track n' Road" or some other confederate flag waving p1sh that the head of Ford Performance was quoted that (in reference to the GT500) "The customer base is telling us that a manual box is essential, and we are hearing that loud and clear"

So a manual box could rock up, making it a compelling option.....


Edited by 8nil on Wednesday 16th January 07:20
That would be cool. I just couldn't get myself to driving a paddle-car, 700hp or not. Snake looks really evil, but i'd still prefer to have the Griff by far.

N7GTX

7,855 posts

143 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Oh come on Les, ffs, at this rate I'll find watching May v Corbyn more exciting.

tumbleweedtumbleweed

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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N7GTX said:
Oh come on Les, ffs, at this rate I'll find watching May v Corbyn more exciting.

tumbleweedtumbleweed
Not meeting deadlines again and again that they’ve set themselves isn’t exactly reassuring.....

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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V6 Pushfit said:
N7GTX said:
Oh come on Les, ffs, at this rate I'll find watching May v Corbyn more exciting.

tumbleweedtumbleweed
Not meeting deadlines again and again that they’ve set themselves isn’t exactly reassuring.....
Last update was less than 4 weeks ago. It's not that i wouldn't like to hear from them sooner rather than later, but to be fair, these weren't exactly deadlines:

... We hope to be able to make a formal announcement that works are under way on or shortly after 15th January ...

... We aim to have this to you by the end of January (as ever don’t shoot us – or anyone for that matter! – if it’s a week or two later), along with some of the key results of the survey. ...

... looking forward to updating you further on progress in January! ...

... more on which in another update soon, together with the ‘BIG NEWS’ which is not only still coming, but getting even bigger ...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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Fair enough, I’ll give it to mid Feb then

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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V6 Pushfit said:
Fair enough, I’ll give it to mid Feb then
Crossing my fingers !!

In non-TVR news it's not all sunshine either.

Shelby GT 500, finally revealed, looks very impressive, great front, massive car. BUT: will not come to Europe, maybe some dealers will import, let's see. Hefty markups to be expected. Will also not be available as manual (though 8nil referred to an article that said it might get one). Watched a few videos, one Ford guy was talking about massive engine re-engineering works, wonder what that does for reliability.

New Supra: they totally ruined it. Never was an option for me in the first place, but i've been following the discussions and reactions, even among fanboys, are mixed at best.

Chevrolet moving to an mid-engined C8 and rumors are, that they will discontinue the C7 before long. To me, this means taking the "C" and the "orvette" out of Corvette. No manual planned.

So things are looking bleak as far as alternatives are concerned, at least for me. Still want the Griff !

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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bullittmcqueen said:
Crossing my fingers !!

In non-TVR news it's not all sunshine either.

Shelby GT 500, finally revealed, looks very impressive, great front, massive car. BUT: will not come to Europe, maybe some dealers will import, let's see. Hefty markups to be expected. Will also not be available as manual (though 8nil referred to an article that said it might get one). Watched a few videos, one Ford guy was talking about massive engine re-engineering works, wonder what that does for reliability.

New Supra: they totally ruined it. Never was an option for me in the first place, but i've been following the discussions and reactions, even among fanboys, are mixed at best.

Chevrolet moving to an mid-engined C8 and rumors are, that they will discontinue the C7 before long. To me, this means taking the "C" and the "orvette" out of Corvette. No manual planned.

So things are looking bleak as far as alternatives are concerned, at least for me. Still want the Griff !
What!!! The mid engined vette looks the ballax. A mid engine, exotic car looks, all with a tried and tested Gm V8 engine.

Christ what do you want a free fan fare and dancing girls. When this thing emerges I reckon it’ll shift numbers.

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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m4tti said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Crossing my fingers !!

In non-TVR news it's not all sunshine either.

Shelby GT 500, finally revealed, looks very impressive, great front, massive car. BUT: will not come to Europe, maybe some dealers will import, let's see. Hefty markups to be expected. Will also not be available as manual (though 8nil referred to an article that said it might get one). Watched a few videos, one Ford guy was talking about massive engine re-engineering works, wonder what that does for reliability.

New Supra: they totally ruined it. Never was an option for me in the first place, but i've been following the discussions and reactions, even among fanboys, are mixed at best.

Chevrolet moving to an mid-engined C8 and rumors are, that they will discontinue the C7 before long. To me, this means taking the "C" and the "orvette" out of Corvette. No manual planned.

So things are looking bleak as far as alternatives are concerned, at least for me. Still want the Griff !
What!!! The mid engined vette looks the ballax. A mid engine, exotic car looks, all with a tried and tested Gm V8 engine.

Christ what do you want a free fan fare and dancing girls. When this thing emerges I reckon it’ll shift numbers.
Nothing ever wrong with dancing girls biggrin

Mid-Engine per se is fine. But in an icon like the Vette, it's a sacrilege. Call it Zora, build both and everyone's happy. But i guess the numbers don't justify parallel versions.




m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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bullittmcqueen said:
Nothing ever wrong with dancing girls biggrin

Mid-Engine per se is fine. But in an icon like the Vette, it's a sacrilege. Call it Zora, build both and everyone's happy. But i guess the numbers don't justify parallel versions.
According to autocar they’ll be bringing it to the UK. If that really is the case, and it’s close to The Griffith price, I reckon TVR have another problem.

Apparently it’s going to to 700bhp music

If that’s the case I’ll be booking a test drive. Had been thinking about a mclaren next but this could end up being a performance bargain. Plllllease let them build a right hand drive version.

It’ll come from the factory with 700bhp and you can bet tuning companies will get that to 800 within a month or too. Monstaaaa

rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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With the sheer amount to McLarens being built, the resale values must be in for a tumble at some point
maybe setting at 50% of the new price.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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rev-erend said:
With the sheer amount to McLarens being built, the resale values must be in for a tumble at some point
maybe setting at 50% of the new price.
That’s one of the attractions of them, for me. The residuals are bringing them down to sub 100k mark or very near, model dependant. Which is a lot of bang for your buck

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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m4tti said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Nothing ever wrong with dancing girls biggrin

Mid-Engine per se is fine. But in an icon like the Vette, it's a sacrilege. Call it Zora, build both and everyone's happy. But i guess the numbers don't justify parallel versions.
According to autocar they’ll be bringing it to the UK. If that really is the case, and it’s close to The Griffith price, I reckon TVR have another problem.

Apparently it’s going to to 700bhp music

If that’s the case I’ll be booking a test drive. Had been thinking about a mclaren next but this could end up being a performance bargain. Plllllease let them build a right hand drive version.

It’ll come from the factory with 700bhp and you can bet tuning companies will get that to 800 within a month or too. Monstaaaa
I'm confident the C8 will not add much to TVRs undisclosed number of problems. First, it will be way above the Griffs price bracket and it's catering to a different audience imho. The C8 will be aimed at the Ferrari/Lambo/McLaren crowd that fancies mid-engines and the more technical (as in gimmicky) aspects of driving. It's actually a good strategy, because the C8 will be very compelling offer in that cluster (unless they fail to prop up their interior-game).

The Griff is more aimed at the old-school, manual, raw V8, no frills guys like me. I don't give a f*ck about DCTs switching gears in 100ms, but i must have that third pedal and a stick.






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