New TVR still under wraps!

[spagbogdog]

Bullitt..
Coming to the LMS ...?

[phazed]

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

[spagbogdog]

phazed said:

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

I luv it too Phazed..


It’s awesome in the flesh ... n gets better each time I look at the photos I took at Goodwood

Edited by spagbogdog on Friday 23 February 23:21

[bullittmcqueen]

spagbogdog said:

Bullitt..
Coming to the LMS ...?

Would love to, but would have to fly in from Germany. So it' s very likely not going to work out, but i will attend any future depositors event if remotely possible.

So i'm counting on you to have a good look at the car

[Little Mac]

As a deposit holder (1st day) I am, like many, struggling to like the front end of the new Griff....and I have seen it in the flesh now 3-4 times at various events. I think the design here better reflects the TVR ethos of old - and I sincerely hope that Les, Gordon & the team are picking up on this, swallow their pride and tweak the front end before they lose too many deposit holders😀.

[spagbogdog]

bullittmcqueen said:

spagbogdog said:

Bullitt..
Coming to the LMS ...?

Would love to, but would have to fly in from Germany. So it' s very likely not going to work out, but i will attend any future depositors event if remotely possible.

So i'm counting on you to have a good look at the car

Get over here at the “FDE’s” Bullitt..I’m pretty sure the ‘final version’ will be just awesome !!

[Jhonno]

phazed said:

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

It does look good still! Not looked at it for a while.

[BJWoods]

Harry3099 said:

Hello all - I'm Harry Gravett

As previously mentioned, I'm currently studying Automotive Design at the Coventry University School of Arts and Humanities.
A project I was recently given was to facelift a car, to change its aesthetics whilst changing minimal components. The idea of this is that a total re-design will cost a manufacturer millions of pounds, whilst a facelift will refresh a car's look for less.
I was given a list of cars to choose from, which was set by my lecturers, and the Griffith was on the list. Personally, I like the look of the new car and, having seen it twice in the flesh, have decided that it satisfies what I have been expecting from the re-birth for the past 5 or so years since the revival was announced. However, being a die-hard TVR fan I couldn't miss the opportunity to work on a car which means so much to me for a University project. Furthermore, my existing knowledge of the brand has saved me a whole lot of research, which I would have had to undertake otherwise, into the design language and family structure of the previous models. Finally, since the new car has proved controversial, I felt there was an unignorable opportunity to explore my own interpretation of the marque, to see if I could reach what I feel is a more appropriate design solution for the general issues I've heard people have with the new car. For this project, we are being marked on how well we can design for a purpose - what better purpose to design for than to attempt to improve the flagship face of my all time favourite car brand?!

Being a facelift, the project came with constraints around what I was and was not allowed to change. Here is a list of what I was allowd to change:
-The front bumper area and lights
-The rear bumper area and lights
-The side mirrors (I left these as they are)
-The wheels
-Plastic trim can be added anwhere on the bodywork, providing it is stuck on and doesn't change the original bodywork underneath

I just want to express my happiness and appreciation that my project has been discussed here - I've read through all the responsive comments and I'm pleased that there is a range of opinions - after all, design is subjective and I'm open to all feedback whether it is positive or negative The essence of what I am doing is that I am learning to design for what different people want, as opposed to what I want. Therefore, when I began the project, my initial thoughts were to focus on the aspects of the car which I have heard the most controversy about - namely being that (in the opinions of a vast amount of people I've heard from) the front end does not scream TVR quite as much as hoped. I understand that this is not everbody's opinion, however it is what I had heard and what I decided to act upon. In response, my primary objective was to try and inject some TVR DNA into the front end. I'm fully aware that the Griffith has been designed with aerodynamics in mind, but this exercise is purely aesthetic, and so did not concern any performance issues affected with changing the sculpting of the front end.

In response to the blue and warm grey sketches sourced from my Instagram art page, they were developmental sketches from a very early stage in the process - they were excercises which I used to generate ideas as quickly as possible. If I'm being honest, I didn't like any of those designs as a whole myself Upon the designing process of my final idea, I implemented ideas taken from these sketches, however they were never intended to represent my final ideas.

The two photos below are the most accurate representation of my final ideas:


(They are seperate sketches, as the TVR emblem, wheels etc in the below image were just experimental ideas I had produced in response to some feedback I was given by my lecturers, and they do not represent my confirmed design proposal)

For my designs, I did take inspiration from TVRs of the past as I wanted to involve more TVR DNA; however I did not want to change too much of the look of the car. I did this because I felt that some features such as the wavy lip and the split front grille scream TVR, and (in my opinion) seem to suit the look and original structure of the car well. Furthermore, I've still kept many features of the new Griffith as I think they move the TVR philosophy in the right direction in today's market, as well as the fact that keeping features makes my changes more subtle.

Once again I'm very appreciative of the interest and comments surrounding my project, please do keep them coming!
I hope this answers the questions that many of you were asking, and I hope it gives you all some context around the work I've been doing
The project is now finished, and so any ideas from here onwards will unfortunately not be implemented, however it is highly interesting to hear everybody's thoughts on the new car.

I look forward to discussing the project further with you all!
Kind regards,
Harry Gravett

looks like a (badly/fussy) rehashed Tuscan... why would you want that. each generation of TVR has been new/different/more modern. Styling for styling sake. yuk (would have been fine 15 years ago, but now dated)

It looks just like more of a 20 year old style..(Tuscan 1999) not a modern fresh design for the 21st century. Sure it would appeal to those that just want an updated Sagaris/Tuscan/Typhon.. but that would be terrible for TVR, they need to get new business/customers with something fresh.

[BJWoods]

BJWoods said:

looks like a (badly/fussy) rehashed Tuscan... why would you want that. each generation of TVR has been new/different/more modern. Styling for styling sake. yuk (would have been fine 15 years ago, but now dated)

It looks just like more of a 20 year old style..(Tuscan 1999) not a modern fresh design for the 21st century. Sure it would appeal to those that just want an updated Sagaris/Tuscan/Typhon.. but that would be terrible for TVR, they need to get new business/customers with something fresh.

have a go at this one.. I love the new Portofino.. but here it looks like an angry Pokémon/emoji

[swisstoni]

In the unlikely event that I attempt to launch a new car I’ll only bother with the front foot or so for the concept model. That seems to be the main thing.

[Testarossa]

swisstoni said:

In the unlikely event that I attempt to launch a new car I’ll only bother with the front foot or so for the concept model. That seems to be the main thing.

"I said how hard could it be, well....Anyway, after pouring my sole into it, I am pleased to say it is everything and more than I hoped for. Thanks also to the Schumacher family for the leg up and believing in me when I was close to defeet. Michael, I know heel approve, he said the rear three quarters gave him the horn,
I hope to start production in 2025 and will release updates as and when - let's take it one step at a time.
Toe all you naysayers out there, watch this space!"

L.E. Gear

[RichB]

BJWoods said:

BJWoods said:

looks like a (badly/fussy) rehashed Tuscan... why would you want that. each generation of TVR has been new/different/more modern. Styling for styling sake. yuk (would have been fine 15 years ago, but now dated)

It looks just like more of a 20 year old style..(Tuscan 1999) not a modern fresh design for the 21st century. Sure it would appeal to those that just want an updated Sagaris/Tuscan/Typhon.. but that would be terrible for TVR, they need to get new business/customers with something fresh.

have a go at this one.. I love the new Portofino.. but here it looks like an angry Pokémon/emoji

You see that Peugeot does nothing for me, it's as bland as the new TVR. So in that respect it's all just personal opinion. What is undeniable that the front of the new TVR has split opinion so it can't be that good. If it was people would universally love it, like the when the Griff was launched.

[dvs_dave]

Jhonno said:

phazed said:

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

It does look good still! Not looked at it for a while.

It looks good, but it could so much better look with a simple change to the grill opening shape.

[Thankyou4calling]

hyphen said:

Mail reporting that the sandwich chain EAT is struggling and heavily in the red, administrators brought in to restructure and 100 stores may close.

Never used it much, as food offering weren't pitched right for me, and they tend to be located within a few footsteps of better alternatives.

Were they involved in the design of the new TVR hyphen?

Or heavy night

[hyphen]

I knew someone would quote before I realised , it's the stupid mobile site I blame!

On the TVR, I like it. Think the front may be more pronounced in photos and will be forgotten when viewing in person. Side profile is lovely, and just the rear I am not sure about till see in person.

I would compare it to Lotus, never felt any of their modern designs were perfect, but for the money and other positive qualities, they were still very attractive purchase.

Looking forward to its release.

Edited by hyphen on Sunday 25th February 09:45

[glenrobbo]

Thankyou4calling said:

Were they involved in the design of the new TVR hyphen?

It's the first I've heard of the new TVR Hyphen.

Is it derived from the Typhon? A kind of Hyper-Typhon?

Any pics yet? Or is it still under wraps?

Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 25th February 10:37

[TVR_Steve]

glenrobbo said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Were they involved in the design of the new TVR hyphen?

Or heavy night

It's the first I've heard of the new TVR Hyphen.

Is it derived from the Typhon?

Any pics yet?

Breaks after it's first use.

Or is that the TVR Hymen?

[spagbogdog]

TVR_Steve said:

glenrobbo said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Were they involved in the design of the new TVR hyphen?

Or heavy night

It's the first I've heard of the new TVR Hyphen.

Is it derived from the Typhon?

Any pics yet?

Breaks after it's first use.

Or is that the TVR Hymen?

like that one !!

[Jhonno]

dvs_dave said:

Jhonno said:

phazed said:

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

It does look good still! Not looked at it for a while.

It looks good, but it could so much better look with a simple change to the grill opening shape.

To me, that looks worse..

[swisstoni]

Jhonno said:

dvs_dave said:

Jhonno said:

phazed said:

To me, the original design is best and does look excellent.

It does look good still! Not looked at it for a while.

It looks good, but it could so much better look with a simple change to the grill opening shape.

To me, that looks worse..

It looks like Nissan have had a go.