Where is the loosest planning policy?
Discussion
montecristo said:
frisbee said:
Just start nobbing someone on a town or parish council and you could build anything.
That would solve two of my problems, but I am just too busy.All local authorities in England are obliged to adhere to the same overarching policy in the form of the National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF).
You're therefore not going to find an Authority with significantly 'looser' policy than all the others.
Is this the same design we've already discussed under your Para 55 thread? What's the problem, have the LPA come down very firmly against it on your current site?
As we discussed, I'd be perfectly willing to argue the case for that design, on that site (at appeal if necessary)... I think it should have a fairly reasonable chance of success.
With a very eccentric design, there's actually at least equally good chance of gaining approval in a 'sensitive' setting as outside of one; in the setting of a listed building, or open countryside, it's a 'folly'. Next to a row of suburban semis (in the sort of area where you'd normally expect Planning to be easy), there is a widespread and consistent character, so it's jarring and inharmonious.
You're therefore not going to find an Authority with significantly 'looser' policy than all the others.
Is this the same design we've already discussed under your Para 55 thread? What's the problem, have the LPA come down very firmly against it on your current site?
As we discussed, I'd be perfectly willing to argue the case for that design, on that site (at appeal if necessary)... I think it should have a fairly reasonable chance of success.
With a very eccentric design, there's actually at least equally good chance of gaining approval in a 'sensitive' setting as outside of one; in the setting of a listed building, or open countryside, it's a 'folly'. Next to a row of suburban semis (in the sort of area where you'd normally expect Planning to be easy), there is a widespread and consistent character, so it's jarring and inharmonious.
OK.
Well, for what it's worth, finding a plot is the most difficult part of any self-build by a huge margin, so if you've got one already I'd think very carefully before abandoning it in favour of looking for another one!
Just to add to my earlier response: LPA's are obliged to submit their Local Plans (the documents that contain their local planning policies) to central Government for approval, before they can be adopted. The whole point of this process is to ensure that they are consistent with national policy and Planning law - so the system would need to fail badly before you'd find one LPA's policy to be significantly more or less stringent than another's.
Obviously, within each Authority there will be some sites/areas that are less sensitive or stringently controlled than others, but that's a different matter entirely.
Also be aware that for any site, anywhere, the LPA will be looking for evidence that the design responds to its context... although you can bulls
t to some degree, designing the building then going off hunting for a site to put it on is doing things the wrong way around, really.
Well, for what it's worth, finding a plot is the most difficult part of any self-build by a huge margin, so if you've got one already I'd think very carefully before abandoning it in favour of looking for another one!
Just to add to my earlier response: LPA's are obliged to submit their Local Plans (the documents that contain their local planning policies) to central Government for approval, before they can be adopted. The whole point of this process is to ensure that they are consistent with national policy and Planning law - so the system would need to fail badly before you'd find one LPA's policy to be significantly more or less stringent than another's.
Obviously, within each Authority there will be some sites/areas that are less sensitive or stringently controlled than others, but that's a different matter entirely.
Also be aware that for any site, anywhere, the LPA will be looking for evidence that the design responds to its context... although you can bulls
t to some degree, designing the building then going off hunting for a site to put it on is doing things the wrong way around, really.Edited by Equus on Friday 21st July 18:42
blueg33 said:
Riley Blue said:
Far better to slip the chairman of your local planning committee a bulging brown envelope - I understand they like those...
What a load of bksWhy do people always say this on planning threads?
The ignorant really should just stay stchum.
Nope. But chairman doesn't make the decision unless he has casting vote and in 30 plus years and probably 500 applications across the uk i have never felt that bribery has been sought or paid.
The system has too many checks and balances.
As far as i am aware all the planning professionals i know are of the same view as me.
You have more chance of winning the lottery than obtaining planning by bribing the chairman.
The system has too many checks and balances.
As far as i am aware all the planning professionals i know are of the same view as me.
You have more chance of winning the lottery than obtaining planning by bribing the chairman.
Riley Blue said:
Have it your own way but I know what I've observed with my own eyes and heard with my own ears.
Then I assume that being an honest and upstanding public servant, you reported said corruption to the Police and you'll be able to provide details of the ensuing court case?Or did you serve on this Committee and tacitly condone your Chairman's action?
Custard test, old boy.
Sadly the complexity of planning is such that it doesn't lend itself to short posts on forums. This complexity does however mean that it is open to interpretation (much like law)
Equus is obviously correct in everything he says (more so about lazy bks about bribing Committees).
In the context of OP's original question, I'll give you a local example to me. The small LA is nigh on destitute and spending cash on writing/updating/defending planning policy is very low down on the Labour Cabinet's list of priorities. More so as the most desirable development land sits on the edges of Conservative voting villages.
The LPA has in effect stopped trying to limit development in these areas, has not updated its five year supply information (as this costs money and takes up time and resources) and simply has accepted the finding of an Inspector that they essentially have no housing policy. Why spend money updating policy to protect Tory voting villages (ironically against Tory central government policy) and defending planning appeals when instead the LA can benefit from additional Council tax, New Homes Bonus, S.106 and pay for schools/meals on wheels/care for the elderly?
The application of planning policy trumps the content of the policy. That's democracy for you!
Equus is obviously correct in everything he says (more so about lazy b
ks about bribing Committees). In the context of OP's original question, I'll give you a local example to me. The small LA is nigh on destitute and spending cash on writing/updating/defending planning policy is very low down on the Labour Cabinet's list of priorities. More so as the most desirable development land sits on the edges of Conservative voting villages.
The LPA has in effect stopped trying to limit development in these areas, has not updated its five year supply information (as this costs money and takes up time and resources) and simply has accepted the finding of an Inspector that they essentially have no housing policy. Why spend money updating policy to protect Tory voting villages (ironically against Tory central government policy) and defending planning appeals when instead the LA can benefit from additional Council tax, New Homes Bonus, S.106 and pay for schools/meals on wheels/care for the elderly?
The application of planning policy trumps the content of the policy. That's democracy for you!
Equus said:
Riley Blue said:
Have it your own way but I know what I've observed with my own eyes and heard with my own ears.
Then I assume that being an honest and upstanding public servant, you reported said corruption to the Police and you'll be able to provide details of the ensuing court case?Or did you serve on this Committee and tacitly condone your Chairman's action?
Custard test, old boy.
You don't have to look hard for what you consider 's
te and nonsense', here's one high profile case:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1387454/Cou...
Here's a 72 page report about 's
te and nonsense', it contains examples :http://sro.sussex.ac.uk/52109/1/Corruption_in_UK_L...
You'll be aware that only since 2010 have councillors been publically accountable, prior to the the Standards
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