The new TVR Griffith

Poll: The new TVR Griffith

Total Members Polled: 138

Change the front of the car, its ugly!: 52%
Stick with the car as is and push ahead.: 48%
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julian64

Original Poster:

14,317 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Assuming Les reads these pages occasionally, I thought is would be okay to post a poll on what seems like the most often made comment on 55 pages of the new TVR thread.

You know, for simplicities sake, in case Les is too busy to read it. smile

GTRene

16,369 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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when you look at say this picture, its form follow function of air etc, so thats why its shaped like that, personally I do not have a problem with that.




alphaone

1,019 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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To be honest I think its boring, if it was for the fact its a TVR I wouldn't give it a second thought :-(

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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+1 , but it does look like a smiley face emoticon biggrin


Edited by glow worm on Wednesday 17th January 17:42

900T-R

20,404 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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No problems with the front end. I just feel the glasshouse looks a bit angular for my taste vs. that of the T350/Sag (a bit Tasmin-ish if I may say so?), a few details lack 'flow' in comparison to the heritage models. Overall I like it but it would have to be the driving experience that 'sells' the car to me. To me, the visual aspects are about as good as those of the other cars I'd be interested in in this segment (Aston, AMG GT etc), just not as spectacularly gorgeous as TVR's late nineties/ noughties output...

BJWoods

5,015 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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900T-R said:
No problems with the front end. I just feel the glasshouse looks a bit angular for my taste vs. that of the T350/Sag (a bit Tasmin-ish if I may say so?), a few details lack 'flow' in comparison to the heritage models. Overall I like it but it would have to be the driving experience that 'sells' the car to me. To me, the visual aspects are about as good as those of the other cars I'd be interested in in this segment (Aston, AMG GT etc), just not as spectacularly gorgeous as TVR's late nineties/ noughties output...
I think familiarity will change perceptions.. I personally think it makes my Griff (and Chims, Cerberas, look if not dated, of their time)
Tamora's and T350s, (tusacns in between) felt and looked more modern than those 90s cars.

and I think the new Griff is absolutely the right design for now (not in red though!)

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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I just think it looks odd.

Like the front and back were designed by different teams. The back is all angry and menacing but the front is a bit dopey and gormless. It leaves me thinking that something isn’t right but it’s hard to put a finger on it.

As others have said, if it didn’t have TVR badge, I’d think it was a Toyota or a Mazda. I love TVR but this doesn’t look or seem like a TVR to me at all.

Some people seem to passionately love it though, so hopefully there’ll be enough out there to make it work.

I worry though that it isn’t TVR (raw, great mix of lowish cost and awesome styling and performance) enough for many TVR fans and isn’t aspirational (established brand, prestige, refinement) enough for people looking to spend £90,000 on a sports car.

When I came on this forum it was full of people in their 20s and 30s that could stretch to a £40-50,000 TVR, less for second hand obviously. Making this £90,000 puts it into a different category. I would expect the new target market (older buyers) to want something from Porsche or Aston or Jaguar or Mercedes or the now older TVR fans would want something more like their last TVR.

Seems odd not to start with a £50-60,000 car that was a bit more simple and rawer and accessible to younger buyers and get all the factory etc up and running and then make something like this next.




m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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alphaone said:
To be honest I think its boring, if it was for the fact its a TVR I wouldn't give it a second thought :-(
Pretty much. If this was the latest Hyundai Scaramanga etc would we even be talking about it. scratchchin

PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Without the TVR badge this could be any generic, guppy mouth, rather dull looking sports car.

Of the Wheeler car's, which is most peoples reference point these days, I'd say only the Tamora really hit a bum note. quite literally! But the rest were awesome and instantly a TVR.

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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BJWoods said:
I think familiarity will change perceptions.. I personally think it makes my Griff (and Chims, Cerberas, look if not dated, of their time)
Tamora's and T350s, (tusacns in between) felt and looked more modern than those 90s cars.

and I think the new Griff is absolutely the right design for now (not in red though!)
Yep, my thoughts.

I like it. It has grown on me a lot since reveal.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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This car is beautiful and should be in great demand
If TVR were to wire in the basics needed for this car to function and not include any electronic controls apart from engine, gearbox, traction/ABS, suspension and air bags plus a flasher unit, this car could be a bigger seller
Sometimes diversity reaps the rewards

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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PGNSagaris said:
Without the TVR badge this could be any generic, guppy mouth, rather dull looking sports car.

Of the Wheeler car's, which is most peoples reference point these days, I'd say only the Tamora really hit a bum note. quite literally! But the rest were awesome and instantly a TVR.
I rather like the Tamora front end and sides, rear less so, but then I prefer a wedge to a chim or griffith.

I'd agree the front end of this is just following the trend for the largest vent area possible irrespective of what is needed for cooling.

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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GTRene said:
I am in the camp that feel like it has been designed by committee and lacks a continuity of image...Interestingly the design sketch in the Autocar poster behind looks more like it should have.. wink

bridgdav

4,805 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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AutoAndy said:
I am in the camp that feel like it has been designed by committee and lacks a continuity of image...Interestingly the design sketch in the Autocar poster behind looks more like it should have.. wink
You mean look like a Lexus front end..?

julian64

Original Poster:

14,317 posts

253 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Ugly camp winning, however not by as much as I thought it would. Clever thing these polls. I thought the people who hated the front end would be in the majority 80/20.


FarmyardPants

4,099 posts

217 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Hate and Ugly are strong words. Although I registered a protest vote, another option or two might have been more revealing.

julian64

Original Poster:

14,317 posts

253 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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FarmyardPants said:
Hate and Ugly are strong words. Although I registered a protest vote, another option or two might have been more revealing.
Wise words, although not sure I can edit a poll. On the other hand giving only two options gives a clearer signal as to the general feeling. Seeing a bell curve stretched across five or six intermediate answers is probably not as helpful. After all the point of the poll is whether or not Les should change it, which is quite binary.

V8 GMS

727 posts

214 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I'm sure no harm could ever come from a binary poll.. 48:52% !!!
getmecoat

Jhonno

5,762 posts

140 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Really don't see people's issue with it..

Byker28i

58,823 posts

216 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I like it, in the flesh it's great