Roof removal 400se

Roof removal 400se

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AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd March
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Can anyone tell me where the roof is attached to the body other than the large bolts on the hoop. I guess its held along the back under the trim but would be nice to know before I start trying to remove anything.
Need to get the hoop recovered, the foam has turned to powder and leaves a right mess on the shelf!

adam quantrill

10,547 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd March
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Yeah there are some screws under that trim at the bottom of the fabric/top of parcel shelf.

AM400

Original Poster:

1,189 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd March
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Thanks Adam,
How do you remove the trim? There are only 2 visible screws on mine one at either end. Taking these out doesn't seem to loosen the trim at all. I don't want to get too heavy handed with it without knowing.
Andy

adam quantrill

10,547 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd March
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I haven't looked on the 400SX but with the old 350i's there were screws under the black plastic caps.

sabre

94 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd March
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Very timely, I am about to have go on mine....if I get to it over the weekend I will let you know.
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AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd March
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sabre said:
Very timely, I am about to have go on mine....if I get to it over the weekend I will let you know.
Brilliant, keep me posted!

gmw9666

2,638 posts

136 months

Friday 23rd March
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Climb into the boot with a torch and you will find 3 bolts right under where the rear part of the back bit of the roof sits on top of the rear deck

It’s an arse of a job to get them, especially if the captive nuts in the rear part under the black. Fabric spin

Good Luck

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Friday 23rd March
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Thanks, sounds like a job for the bank holiday weekend then.

sabre

94 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th March
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Hi, found mine, loose and rusted https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/8.gif. So will have a further look over Easter as with them being loose a lot of water entered the boot while it was outside, so got to replace/seal

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Wednesday 28th March
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Managed to get my roof off. The bolts were not too bad. Took a while to figure out how to remove the hood from the seat belt mounts. I didn't realise there were adjustments for the roof on the brackets. Removed the passenger side bracket and slid the hoop off the drivers side. In true TVR fashion I found the original pioneer stereo box glued to the underside of the vinyl to cover the bolts on the hoop!
It's now turned into a bigger job than I anticipated. The vinyl and foam backing on the trim beneath the hoop is rotten. The foam is powder and the couple of bits of metal glued to the backs of the trim are rusty. I am going to take the opportunity to remove the framework that the seat belts bolt to and get them powder coated before starting the trim. Think I will replace the belts too.

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th April
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Removed the framework, its now having new base plates fitted before powder coating. Can't believe TVR fitted this without any paint whatsoever. I would recommend checking the base plates. After all this does hold the roof, seat belts and door strikers! Does anyone know the reason for gluing a metal plate to the vinyl underneath the hoop? I would like to improve on this but wondered if it was done to provide some sort of flexibility when folding the roof. If not I may make it more of a solid fixture before recovering everything. I did laugh at the 32mm square table leg bung used to house the boot switch!

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Saturday 27th October
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Finally come to put.my roof back on the car this weekend after finishing the rear trimming. The problem I have now is that the targa will not fit! The locating tabs at the front are about 6 mm to high. I have tried every adjustment on the hoop brackets, lowering it highering it tilting, makes no difference at all. I had new base plates welded to the frame which fit perfectly where the originals were, the door catch and the stays from the frame to the rear arch fit ok so nothing is out of place. The roof was never a good fit to start but its no where near now. If I remove the door seal from above the screen it fits in lovely. The targa seems to be too high in the centre at the screen. There is daylight at either end but not in the centre . Does anyone have any suggestions, I am at a loss with this one. The only thing I can see is re profiling the front of the targa by removing some fibre glass from the middle allowing it to sit lower.

wedgewood

103 posts

124 months

Sunday 28th October
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I feel a bit daft for saying it but have you got the targa top the right way round? Mine fits both ways but if its the wrong way round it is really tight.

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th October
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Any advice grateful recieved but I wish it was that simple, mine does only fit one way, the targa seals hang longer on the front edge. Going to try slackening everything off again to see if that makes a difference.

adam quantrill

10,547 posts

178 months

Sunday 28th October
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can you take a couple of photos and show us? Also you should put it on with the doors ajar, but you probably know that already.

AM400

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199 months

Sunday 28th October
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I will try and get some photos sorted. Loosened every bolt including the floor bolts and tried to fit the targa while everything was loose to get some movement. Still no good, I am starting to wonder if having stood the targa on its end and not moved it for 6 months that it may have warped. Really clutching at straws now!

adam quantrill

10,547 posts

178 months

Monday 29th October
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No way - mine sits in the boot 24/7 on top of the spare wheel and doesn't warp. More likely is that something about the hoop end has changed, maybe the slots are in a different place and is causing the thing to not sit right?

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Monday 29th October
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The weird thing is if I take the hoop out of the equation and just put the front edge of the targa on the windscreen it still won't fit. I have to tilt it at an angle to locate the tabs then lower it this results in too much stress on the A pillars. I would have thought the work on the hoop would have no baring on the targa fitting this way. As I originally said the roof has always been difficult having to work from side to side to get the tabs located. It's as if the car has just relaxed into the position its happy with! I was hoping this would improve once I put everything back together but I should have known better!

adam quantrill

10,547 posts

178 months

Monday 29th October
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THat deos sound strange as thought the whole tub is bent down at the back by a couple of inches. Are the door shut lines looking OK especially at the rear of the door? Have you removed and replaced the tab locating holes in the windscreen surround at all?

AM400

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1,189 posts

199 months

Monday 29th October
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The shut lines are TVRsmile not brilliant but passable. Not removed the tab locators or tabs. The distance between the hoop tab locators and windscreen ones is exactly the same each side 49.5cm so its not twisted. The hight of the hoop is the same both sides measured from the same points.

Edited by AM400 on Monday 29th October 18:43