New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

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phazed

18,181 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th September
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My wife’s cousin has a Mercedes SLS but uses his 1959 Austin Healey frogeye sprite more often.

Says something about our overcrowded roads in the south-east I think!

Classic Chim

9,366 posts

94 months

Tuesday 10th September
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phazed said:
My wife’s cousin has a Mercedes SLS but uses his 1959 Austin Healey frogeye sprite more often.

Says something about our overcrowded roads in the south-east I think!
A decent moped would keep up, dare say even a push bike could maintain 20 mph biggrin

The problem with nearly all classic sportscars is the small door openings and difficulty of entry / exit,,it’s a real thing for the over 50’s,,,,
Tvr corrected that with the Chimaera rofl

Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 10th September 16:08

phazed

18,181 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th September
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I heard that wink

midenginedcoupe

4,439 posts

77 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Couldn't resist posting this in here.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

10/1 this has more orders on day 1 than the new TVR ever saw in deposits. Even with a front-end that's even worse rofl

Yes, yes, I know it's a going-concern mainstream brand and can't really be compared to a new company that bought a name and hasn't built a single car ever. But still.

m4tti

4,604 posts

100 months

Wednesday 11th September
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But, but .... but does it have “aero”. hehe



Back end looks good hehe I know I’ve heard that somewhere before.

bullittmcqueen

803 posts

36 months

Wednesday 11th September
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midenginedcoupe said:
Couldn't resist posting this in here.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

10/1 this has more orders on day 1 than the new TVR ever saw in deposits. Even with a front-end that's even worse rofl

Yes, yes, I know it's a going-concern mainstream brand and can't really be compared to a new company that bought a name and hasn't built a single car ever. But still.
Best looking BMW in ages !!! The forward-leaning grille is a statement, like it. Never thought i'd say that about a BMW. Totally love the side-profile of the hood.

Unfortunately, it's a concept and seeing the final car will make you cry.

Storer

4,992 posts

160 months

Wednesday 11th September
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bullittmcqueen said:
Best looking BMW in ages !!! The forward-leaning grille is a statement, like it. Never thought i'd say that about a BMW. Totally love the side-profile of the hood.

Unfortunately, it's a concept and seeing the final car will make you cry.
That new BMW is bloody ugly. I really cannot agree that it looks better than the Griffith front.

Changing the Griffith lights is an easy project as they are not yet fixed in stone.

Monkeylegend

16,347 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Storer said:
Changing the Griffith lights is an easy project as they are not yet fixed in stone.
Yep, all TVR need is some money........................................er maybe not so easy then.

PGNSagaris

2,143 posts

111 months

Wednesday 11th September
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El stovey said:
V6 Pushfit said:
El stovey said:
Aren’t they linked? Better front means more orders, more positivity about the car, more money from deposits, more chance of investors etc etc.

If you’re looking at investing in the project and you see loads of cancellations and negativity about the front and think it looks ugly yourself, you’re less likely to think it’s going to succeed and invest in it.
A part of the situation yes but a long way down the list of reasons why there’s no production yet. Almost dropping off the bottom IMHO, a bit like thinking the rainstorm is why the ship is sinking.
Seems to me the looks are one of the main problems. If it looked better more people would want one and orders and then funding would pour in.
Exactly this. Looks are the only reason I got my deposit back.

TVRMs

1,655 posts

69 months

Thursday 12th September
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And the BMW sadly suffers in the same way, ridiculous frontal view. Even to the point I think it’s s PH type wind up..

bullittmcqueen

803 posts

36 months

Thursday 12th September
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TVRMs said:
And the BMW sadly suffers in the same way, ridiculous frontal view. Even to the point I think it’s s PH type wind up..
Big grilles are the trend du jour. Sure this one's a concept and will be watered down a bit. But big it will be. Look at what Audi is doing in their newer models.

Funny thing is, it taints all other models as well and makes them look half-assed in comparison. If someone starts, i'm sure a lot of others will follow.

dvs_dave

5,585 posts

170 months

Saturday 14th September
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bullittmcqueen said:
Big grilles are the trend du jour. Sure this one's a concept and will be watered down a bit. But big it will be. Look at what Audi is doing in their newer models.

Funny thing is, it taints all other models as well and makes them look half-assed in comparison. If someone starts, i'm sure a lot of others will follow.
Fortunately Audi’s design chief has realised that front grilles can’t keep expanding and will perhaps now start to move back to smaller ones.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopnik.com/audis-se...

The writing is on the wall when the non-premium manufacturers start doing it. Then you know it’s the end if that particular trend. For example, the current massive grille, hyper aggressive styling trend is done. Look at the current Toyota Camry and Avalon’s styling for confirmation of that. Ridiculously overdone things.


TrotCanterGallopCharge

71 posts

35 months

Saturday 14th September
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dvs_dave said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Big grilles are the trend du jour. Sure this one's a concept and will be watered down a bit. But big it will be. Look at what Audi is doing in their newer models.

Funny thing is, it taints all other models as well and makes them look half-assed in comparison. If someone starts, i'm sure a lot of others will follow.
Fortunately Audi’s design chief has realised that front grilles can’t keep expanding and will perhaps now start to move back to smaller ones.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopnik.com/audis-se...

The writing is on the wall when the non-premium manufacturers start doing it. Then you know it’s the end if that particular trend. For example, the current massive grille, hyper aggressive styling trend is done. Look at the current Toyota Camry and Avalon’s styling for confirmation of that. Ridiculously overdone things.


bullittmcqueen

803 posts

36 months

Saturday 14th September
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dvs_dave said:
Fortunately Audi’s design chief has realised that front grilles can’t keep expanding and will perhaps now start to move back to smaller ones.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopnik.com/audis-se...
Doesn't look too bad, quite good for an Audi actually. That's maybe because it's very Camaroesque. Funny that it has a door side profile and the Vent similar to the one of the new Griff.

I read a statement from the BMW chief designer regarding large grilles. He too said he wasn't sure about the size, but somehow it's hard to scale back. I'm sure we'll see lots of big ones in the future.


Slow M

2,540 posts

151 months

Sunday 15th September
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pincher said:
GTRene said:
Porsche will probably come with the 988 what a lovely shape, a bit 918 but I guess the price will also be way more then the maybe TVR

That is a very handsome car.
Lovely sides, anyway. The front reminds me of . . . someone? Oh yeah! That’s who!

Porker Frog-Lipped Sprite. Awesome.

B
😉

PuffsBack

2,196 posts

170 months

Tuesday 17th September
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Why has it gone so wrong for TVR? Witness the spat on PH news between Porsche and Tesla for the ring record for an electric car. How do I not want to own either!! Nerds computer geek cars!!

Underbody aero, no thanks, we want smoke, noise and outrageous looks. None of which the Tesla and Porsche have and looks the TVR doesnt

baconsarney

9,058 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th September
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Should’ve been (looked like) a Sag but a bit bigger with better build quality and more power... the awesome looks were already there, what a waste of fabulous potential.. I’d call it arrogance.. stunning design theme, just threw it away... makes me angry...

m4tti

4,604 posts

100 months

Wednesday
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It’ll be interesting to see if they quietly wind the thing down and the deposits are lost.

Do the have to give notice to the deposit holders.

Presumably they could just leave it dormant.

midenginedcoupe

4,439 posts

77 months

Wednesday
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m4tti said:
It’ll be interesting to see if they quietly wind the thing down and the deposits are lost.

Do the have to give notice to the deposit holders.

Presumably they could just leave it dormant.
It's been covered ad-infinitum on this thread already.

There's no formal protection in place for deposits. There's no legal obligation to notify deposit holders of anything whatsoever - why would there be? They're not shareholders.

The money's not in ESCROW or anything like that, you're just relying on a gentleman's agreement that you can have your money back if you want to.

So if/when it all goes tits up, deposit holders will be lucky if they're treated as "just" another creditor.

V6 Pushfit

10,703 posts

55 months

Wednesday
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m4tti said:
It’ll be interesting to see if they quietly wind the thing down and the deposits are lost.

Do the have to give notice to the deposit holders.

Presumably they could just leave it dormant.
Theoretically any ideas of TVR winding up/disappearing or the project failing should have been quashed by the last update which promised a start on the refurbishment and other goodies presumably to knock on the head all pessimism.

However clearly the update did nothing to allay any fears - it was far too late and opaque to reverse the idea the project is still in serious trouble.