New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
baconsarney said:
One word...
New Corvette....
Ok that’s two....
Notwithstanding still agonising over selling current toys adding a few bob and going for V12V.. be a bit less dosh than new Corvette in RHD guise but servicing V12V will be lots more than new Corvette I’m guessing...
Mid engine V8 or front engine V12...
I'll make it easy for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0Svvdrx_ENew Corvette....
Ok that’s two....
Notwithstanding still agonising over selling current toys adding a few bob and going for V12V.. be a bit less dosh than new Corvette in RHD guise but servicing V12V will be lots more than new Corvette I’m guessing...
Mid engine V8 or front engine V12...
N7GTX said:
El stovey said:
When’s the likely date for the plug to be pulled
If it doesn’t survive?
Presumably there’s the Welsh loan that had some conditions attached?
To be repaid by 2021. With interest by then it will be around £3m. If it doesn’t survive?
Presumably there’s the Welsh loan that had some conditions attached?
Griffithy said:
tvrolet said:
m4tti said:
I always had Ferrari down as a toxic brand to me, although in fairness as a yoof i has the obligatory posters of a Daytona and a 512. Nothing that came out of Modena had the slightest appeal to me...but this is absolutely stunning. Stunning exterior, stunning front, stunning rear, stunning profile and stunning interior Wow. Some folks still know how to design stand-out cars. 
Why couldn’t the TVR look a fraction as good as this. Although a bit of a moot point as you’ll actually be able to buy the Ferrari at some point.
But this one really is stunning.
If the Maserati guys don´t know where to go now, this one could be it for them.
Sad that TVR turns out as such a busted flush.
Brexit or not, this will trickle down:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
bullittmcqueen said:
Brexit or not, this will trickle down:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
bullittmcqueen said:
Brexit or not, this will trickle down:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
fun cars will just have an off switch for most of it. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
RedAndy said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Brexit or not, this will trickle down:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
fun cars will just have an off switch for most of it. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
It will also massively increase cost and complexity for smaller producers (TVR!) to develop/buy, integrate, calibrate and test these systems. The (stated) ultimate goal, is to remove the driver from this equation altogether.
bullittmcqueen said:
It will also massively increase cost and complexity for smaller producers (TVR!) to develop/buy, integrate, calibrate and test these systems. The (stated) ultimate goal, is to remove the driver from this equation altogether.
Makes sense, less congestion, better traffic flow, safer. Not much fun though. El stovey said:
bullittmcqueen said:
It will also massively increase cost and complexity for smaller producers (TVR!) to develop/buy, integrate, calibrate and test these systems. The (stated) ultimate goal, is to remove the driver from this equation altogether.
Makes sense, less congestion, better traffic flow, safer. Not much fun though. Only problem is, that it will leave little to no room for the non-conforming stuff, which is only 1% of the driving, but 100% of fun. Entire old-school car industry is in for a rough ride, that's for sure.
V6 Pushfit said:
Makes pre 2020 cars a good choice for proper driving and pre 1995 for no ECU and pre 1993 for no emission controlling nonsense. Even better for my 1941 beast which has little steering and no brakes either.
Ah, not so fast, they thought of that one, too: ...
In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045.
...
from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48668791
Which basically means they'll take old cars off the road. It's 25 years down the road, no-one knows what the world will look like then, so probably no reason to worry about it now. But given current climate developments, that step may come way earlier and may be altered to include other "politically incorrect" vehicles. But when the time comes, it probably won't hurt that much, as petrol prices will have been taxed out of sight by then anyway.
That’s f
king ridiculous it’s what pisses me off when my (our) main interest is ICE related stuff - and a bunch of city dwelling nutters on benefits who haven’t a clue about anything form a massive pressure group for changing the way that everybody else lives.
When the climate protests were televised there wasn’t a single person there I could see that was level headed and employable.
king ridiculous it’s what pisses me off when my (our) main interest is ICE related stuff - and a bunch of city dwelling nutters on benefits who haven’t a clue about anything form a massive pressure group for changing the way that everybody else lives. When the climate protests were televised there wasn’t a single person there I could see that was level headed and employable.
bullittmcqueen said:
Ah, not so fast, they thought of that one, too:
...
In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045.
...
from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48668791
Which basically means they'll take old cars off the road. It's 25 years down the road, no-one knows what the world will look like then, so probably no reason to worry about it now. But given current climate developments, that step may come way earlier and may be altered to include other "politically incorrect" vehicles. But when the time comes, it probably won't hurt that much, as petrol prices will have been taxed out of sight by then anyway.
That article is about Ireland. They never even brought in National Car Testing (MoT equivalent) until the year 2000 (!) and the article fails to mention it is required every 2 years from a vehicle age of 4 until 10 years old:...
In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045.
...
from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48668791
Which basically means they'll take old cars off the road. It's 25 years down the road, no-one knows what the world will look like then, so probably no reason to worry about it now. But given current climate developments, that step may come way earlier and may be altered to include other "politically incorrect" vehicles. But when the time comes, it probably won't hurt that much, as petrol prices will have been taxed out of sight by then anyway.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_r...
They have an exemption at 40 years old, as we do. This is a nice exemption too:
"Cars permanently based on islands that are not connected to the mainland by road do not have to be tested."
Edited by V8fan on Friday 15th November 08:50
V8fan said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Ah, not so fast, they thought of that one, too:
...
In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045.
...
from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48668791
Which basically means they'll take old cars off the road. It's 25 years down the road, no-one knows what the world will look like then, so probably no reason to worry about it now. But given current climate developments, that step may come way earlier and may be altered to include other "politically incorrect" vehicles. But when the time comes, it probably won't hurt that much, as petrol prices will have been taxed out of sight by then anyway.
That article is about Ireland. They never even brought in National Car Testing (MoT equivalent) until the year 2000 (!) and the article fails to mention it is required every 2 years from a vehicle age of 4 until 10 years old:...
In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045.
...
from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48668791
Which basically means they'll take old cars off the road. It's 25 years down the road, no-one knows what the world will look like then, so probably no reason to worry about it now. But given current climate developments, that step may come way earlier and may be altered to include other "politically incorrect" vehicles. But when the time comes, it probably won't hurt that much, as petrol prices will have been taxed out of sight by then anyway.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_r...
They have an exemption at 40 years old, as we do. This is a nice exemption too:
"Cars permanently based on islands that are not connected to the mainland by road do not have to be tested."
Edited by V8fan on Friday 15th November 08:50
After 15 years the lion's share of cars will be end of life. So if the last ICE cars are actually admitted in 2030 (which seems to a line that quite a few european countries support), then there will be very, very few ICE cars left in 2045. Infrastructure will disappear with the cars. Fewer spare parts, fewer repairs, fewer gas-stations, etc, everything at low-volume collectors prices. You'll probably have to buy fuel at the only remaining gas-station in a 100mile circle and burn half the fuel to get there and back.
But most likely we will all have gotten used to it by then and if our new shiny e-vehicles are in a good mood, they'll take us for a fun ride on a sunday morning. Or they could decide to go on their own if we don't stop complaining about how great everything was in the old days
N7GTX said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Brexit or not, this will trickle down:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rel...
Fun ends in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....
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