New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

[N7GTX]

The Surveyor said:

PuffsBack said:

Gazzab said:

Woah. He is vlogging and so clearly needs to carry out research and make his services available to people.

And lets be clear - Jayemm has 70k subscribers - thats more than DOUBLE the circulation of AutoCar. Shmee has 2 million. Ignore the Vloggers isn't really an option for any PR dept

The mainstream mags are incidental in 2020, no one gives a s**t unless its online. The worlds moved on.....

Oh come on, there are vloggers, and there are vloggers... somebody with 2 million followers is unlikely to be ignored which is why new-co are engaging with Shmee, somebody with 70,000 followers is going to get a 'who are you... ' response if they get a response at all, especially if their video is negative.

Shmee said "As I mentioned, I happened to find out they were out shooting..."

... which is not quite "is why new-co are engaging with Shmee"

[crosseyedlion]

All this fuss over the fact they are allowed to drive the 1 car on the road and decided to take some new photos. It's probably the entire point of registration, makes it significantly logistically easier to get to events/take photos.

It doesn't really change the fact that if any cars are delivered in sooner than 12 months time, the customer will be doing development miles.

Traditional TVR I guess.

Edited by crosseyedlion on Thursday 23 January 07:16

[anonymous-user]

Shmee said:

V6 Pushfit said:

And that was it, a few shots here and there and following behind. Bloody poor show not to have lifted the bonnet, sat in it again, spoken to the driver (where’s Les?). It’s like he was just tagging along uninvited and they tried to shake him off on the narrow mews too!

Very well done Shmee for at least getting there, but embarrassed for you for the content you had no other option on.

I don't think that's entirely fair though, I try to avoid filming 'the same thing again' because previous videos are there in perpetuity, for example showing the engine at Revival when it was launched, discussing the interior at length with Les just over a year ago etc. They weren't trying to shake me off, I knew I couldn't get through the gap and thought it was funny for the video!

As I mentioned, I happened to find out they were out shooting and had my own other plans for the day, plus a flight shortly thereafter for my girlfriend so while I wanted to try and pull something together, time wasn't on my side. Likewise they had lined the day up for photography so while I'd love to poke around some more, doing so hinders the entirety of their team at a shoot that wasn't for me to dictate how it went.

A OK understood, just responding to how it comes over. Theirs didn’t look like much of a team though just a camera shy driver.
We’re you welcomed by a crew and TVR Bods? Is there any behind-scenes update you can tell us?
A relative is an actor and did a short period film at our place and me as an extra in the Jeep and Mrs P in a fur coat and pearls - it was a looong days work for a 12 minute film - is it the same with your vids?

[anonymous-user]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/tvr-gr...

[anonymous-user]

Autocar: ‘a number of investors and depositors are growing impatient with the lack of progress. Edgar and Berriman have been approached for comment but neither has responded..

So at least we needn’t take the lack of info personally - they aren’t talking to a leading industry publication either!

Is the road registering a directors perk for weekend jolly’s?
Plus of course it increases the book value of an asset.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 23 January 08:46

[Pupp]

Which investors are growing impatient specifically? To the extent it includes factual content, that article could have been written from a read of the last few pages of this thread. It's padding, that's all; hardly a news story.

[cirks]

Pupp said:

that article could have been written from a read of the last few pages of this thread

reads exactly as if it was too

[anonymous-user]

cirks said:

Pupp said:

that article could have been written from a read of the last few pages of this thread

reads exactly as if it was too

Either way, it was written due to the lack of anything saying otherwise from anywhere else.

[anonymous-user]

crosseyedlion said:

All this fuss over the fact they are allowed to drive the 1 car on the road and decided to take some new photos. It's probably the entire point of registration, makes it significantly logistically easier to get to events/take photos.

It doesn't really change the fact that if any cars are delivered in sooner than 12 months time, the customer will be doing development miles.

Traditional TVR I guess.

Edited by crosseyedlion on Thursday 23 January 07:16

Shows how woeful it all is tbh.

All the buzz and PR is coming from vloggers who weren’t even invited or involved in the event in an official capacity. One is even going to buy the car.

Pretty pathetic really.

People are literally offering to do TVRs PR for them but they’re not interested.

[N7GTX]

V6 Pushfit said:

Autocar: ‘a number of investors and depositors are growing impatient with the lack of progress. Edgar and Berriman have been approached for comment but neither has responded..

So at least we needn’t take the lack of info personally - they aren’t talking to a leading industry publication either!

Is the road registering a directors perk for weekend jolly’s?
Plus of course it increases the book value of an asset.

Edited by V6 Pushfit on Thursday 23 January 08:46

Autocar is probably not at the top of Edgar's favourite list. He had a pop at them last year in the final 'not secret' update.

[The Surveyor]

N7GTX said:

Shmee said "As I mentioned, I happened to find out they were out shooting..."

... which is not quite "is why new-co are engaging with Shmee"

Shmee only got photos with the car this time as it was near, in the past he's interviewed Les, and he's driven the car with Les, he's had much more access than any other vloggers and I'd say that's 'engaging with Shmee'.

[The Surveyor]

V6 Pushfit said:

Relaunch?

In the current PR context, when (or if) they get some real backers and start production, they will have a genuine platform from which to 'relaunch' the PR campaign.

[The Surveyor]

crosseyedlion said:

All this fuss over the fact they are allowed to drive the 1 car on the road and decided to take some new photos. It's probably the entire point of registration, makes it significantly logistically easier to get to events/take photos.

It doesn't really change the fact that if any cars are delivered in sooner than 12 months time, the customer will be doing development miles.

Traditional TVR I guess.

I think registering the car and getting it seen out and about is the last throw of the dice, they're committed to a factory to secure funding from the Welsh government and that's unlikely to be released until new-co can show they have other backers. Their credibility is dribbling away as each year passes and they have no other assets other than this single Griffith to show to any other potential investors that this venture is viable.

There will be no cars delivered in 12 months, even if they got all the funding needed in place today the factory won't be production-ready for at least 18 months IMHO.

'Traditional TVR' would have built the car in a shed, they would have started small and built 10 cars in the first year, then 50 in the next. Traditional TVR didn't run before they could walk. Traditional TVR certainly had their faults, but at least we could go out and buy one.

[PuffsBack]

The Surveyor said:

Oh come on, there are vloggers, and there are vloggers... somebody with 2 million followers is unlikely to be ignored which is why new-co are engaging with Shmee, somebody with 70,000 followers is going to get a 'who are you... ' response if they get a response at all, especially if their video is negative.

Not disagreeing - just pointing out that 70k subscribers is still double AutoCars circulation and also more than double EVO's.

I thought Shmee didn't get an invite in advance to the photshoot, he just happened to find out about it (Tim correct me if I am wrong)?

[The Surveyor]

jayemm89 said:

I watched Tim's video considering everyone under the sun has tagged me in the posts of the car on social media.

It seems like he is being told about as much as I am with regards to the factory and their progress, and I think that's very poor form considering he is not just one of the biggest automotive YTers in the world but also a deposit holder.

Excellent opportunity very much wasted I thought.

Oh well, that's a shame.

[crosseyedlion]

The Surveyor said:

'Traditional TVR' would have built the car in a shed, they would have started small and built 10 cars in the first year, then 50 in the next. Traditional TVR didn't run before they could walk. Traditional TVR certainly had their faults, but at least we could go out and buy one.

Spot on.

The problem seems to have stemmed from having absolutely no technical capability themselves, then paying a fortune for a prototype they still don't know how to build. Meaning theyve had to have production targets of 2k per year. Mad considering tvr only sold 500 ish in their last year.

Lez & Co probably thought that by getting the prototype built and deposits in they would be offered a daft sum for the project and they wouldn't have to do the actual building bit. But that ship has sailed.

[anonymous-user]

crosseyedlion said:

Spot on.

The problem seems to have stemmed from having absolutely no technicalPR capability themselves, then paying a fortune for a prototype they still don't know how to build. Meaning theyve had to have production targets of 2k per year. Mad considering tvr only sold 500 ish in their last year.

Lez & Co probably thought that by getting the prototype built and deposits in they would be offered a daft sum for the project and they wouldn't have to do the actual buildingPR bit. But that ship has sailed.

[BJWoods]

PuffsBack said:

Not disagreeing - just pointing out that 70k subscribers is still double AutoCars circulation and also more than double EVO's.

I thought Shmee didn't get an invite in advance to the photoshoot, he just happened to find out about it (Tim correct me if I am wrong)?

lol.. believe that and you'll believe anything... ie who told him..

not to say, that this is not a positive for TVR... but no.. 'happened to find out' - as you do...

what would be wrong with TVR, saying to a depositor who is a worldwide know car video YouTube blogger, who they have three videos already, with Les Edgar, in the past - a direct heads up, We are in London, want to pop down have a look, maybe you could get some good content... Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all..I would applaud it. some sensible marketing/PR.. no need for any pretence otherwise.

Edited by BJWoods on Thursday 23 January 12:39

[lancepar]

V6 Pushfit said:

Is the road registering a directors perk for weekend jolly’s?

Company Pool car spotted.

[V8fan]

Article now on the front page :

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/tv...