New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

[Unsorted]

macdeb said:

m4tti said:

dvs_dave said:

Well, this has just dropped. New Corvette. Starts at $60k and will be available in RHD.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28409341/2020-c...

This will hit the Griffith market right in the plums.

I mean who wouldn’t want this little chap instead of the Vette

When you compare to the above image it just looks old.

I should think anyone would agree with that. I should think Les and any deposit holders should be worried.

This^^^^

With the choice of new and old stuff that looks/is epic in TVR target price range, and with it likely the car is years away from seeing a customer I can't see how this is going to end well.

Hopefully wrong though.

[dvs_dave]

BJWoods said:

nteresting to compare this with the Ford GT...?

No turbo V8 and lots of luggage space, and a targa. looks ok aswell, about the same size as a Ferrari 458... and when it gets supercharged?

GM already has a new TT V8 waiting in the wings called the LT7 “Blackwing”. It’s just been released in the Cadillac CT6-V with a pretty tame 550hp tune. It’s destined for the new ‘Vette too, and will certainly have a much more aggressive tune. 700hp easily.



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&amp...

[m4tti]

It’ll be interesting when GM hybrid one of these suckers, we’ll see 1000bhp + Hyper car busting performance at the price of a top of the range Merc

This may end up being the greatest car GM have ever produced.

[scottydoesntknow]

Unsorted said:

With the choice of new and old stuff that looks/is epic in TVR target price range, and with it likely the car is years away from seeing a customer I can't see how this is going to end well.

McLarens are definitely coming into reach. Plenty of 12Cs available sub £80k and I imagine they're actually changing hands for a lot less.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

540s, 570s and 650s heading that way too. AMG GTs in the £60k's. The Griff needs to be very special indeed to stand a chance.

[anonymous-user]

Gameface said:

El stovey said:

I suppose the fact that it’s mid engined and manual only will still mean that it isn’t an exact, direct competitor to the ToyotaVR though?

Manual only?

It's not manual at all.

Possibly in the future but it's dual clutch paddle shift at present.

Sorry, I meant to say the corvette is auto only.

The point being that someone who wants a griff due to the front engine and manual (as some on here do) isn’t going to go for this corvette Instead as it’s now done away with both.

[BJWoods]

El stovey said:

Sorry, I meant to say the corvette is auto only.

The point being that someone who wants a griff due to the front engine and manual (as some on here do) isn’t going to go for this corvette Instead as it’s now done away with both.

Getting to the point of, going for a car that I can actually get... vs the new Griffith... A NA 6.2L v8 a plus point... had thought of an alpine as well.. all very different, but interesting.

[phazed]

dvs_dave said:

Well, this has just dropped. New Corvette. Starts at $60k and will be available in RHD.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28409341/2020-c...

This will hit the Griffith market right in the plums.

Personally I prefer the look of the new Griff.

[anonymous-user]

The new TVR must now be dead in the water. Any project will have milestones and dates that things have to be implemented by. I cannot believe if the project was still alive, newco would have any problem with giving a date the new car would be delivered or an update of its progress. It would be in the project plan, everything from factory fit out, to staff recruitment, testing and certification of the car, to engaging with component suppliers. Any extension from these dates usually means additional costs.

The only flurry of information recently was the Lemans trip, probably a last gasp at trying to get a backer.

I can’t see anyone financially backing a low volume car producer with yesterday’s petrol technology, so really they have nowhere to go and a factory being fitted out.

I wonder whether they are still contractually committed to the factory, and cannot really pull out without a penalty of some sort so are running with it until they have no choice but to make an announcement it is all over.

[BJWoods]

phazed said:

Personally I prefer the look of the new Griff.

I like both.. one I have a good chance of actually buying anytime soon..

[phazed]

Agree with you regarding availability.

Never been keen on mid engined supa type cars, certainly not in the overcrowded south-east. A total unnecessary unfortunately. My tiv normally stays in the garage most the time when I have more fun with one of the much lesser cars from the stable down country roads.

I pop in every now and again and look through the window of Les’s office which is near me and look at the Griff in the window. Sadly I believe that’s where it will languish.

[m4tti]

phazed said:

dvs_dave said:

Well, this has just dropped. New Corvette. Starts at $60k and will be available in RHD.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28409341/2020-c...

This will hit the Griffith market right in the plums.

Personally I prefer the look of the new Griff.

Should have gone to spec savers Peter

[m4tti]

BJWoods said:

I like both.. one I have a good chance of actually buying anytime soon..

I’m watching this closely, to see what the schedule is for right hand drive.

I’m a chronic tinkerer so the tuning market for the engines they use, plus no doubt they’ll make work shop manuals available. It’s all right up my street.

All of a sudden I’ve lost interest in a used Mclaren.

[bullittmcqueen]

I'm not a fan of mid-engines and the Corvette is imo the last car that should have gone down that route.

Here's a good write-up. Worth a read, even if one doesn't agree with the conclusion.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-chevrolet-...

[robsco]

That Corvette is not as good looking as the new Griffith, there's far too much "going on".

[phazed]

robsco said:

That Corvette is not as good looking as the new Griffith, there's far too much "going on".

Yes in simple terms, agreed.

All the slashes and cuts remind me of the Honda Civic. I absolutely hate that with a vengeance!

[scottydoesntknow]

bullittmcqueen said:

Here's a good write-up. Worth a read, even if one doesn't agree with the conclusion.

I couldn't see a conclusion. Just a load of purely subjective bullet points and random musings about styling.

[macdeb]

phazed said:

Yes in simple terms, agreed.

All the slashes and cuts remind me of the Honda Civic. I absolutely hate that with a vengeance!

^^^^ That Civic hideous bloody thing with fake vents all over it. New Griffith? I did think about placing a deposit, but, glad I didn't as it does nothing for me if I'm honest and the price? Shame, a real shame.

[bullittmcqueen]

scottydoesntknow said:

bullittmcqueen said:

Here's a good write-up. Worth a read, even if one doesn't agree with the conclusion.

I couldn't see a conclusion. Just a load of purely subjective bullet points and random musings about styling.

Sorry, i only meant the title. Taste is subjective. I liked the fotos and the fact that he actually went beyond simply stating that he doesn't like it. I generally like the Vette very much, but they shouldn't have gone mid-engine, this styling is too much of everything, long hood gone (expected, but still). No manual, it's just not a Vette anymore. And they royally blew it with the interior.

[scottydoesntknow]

bullittmcqueen said:

I generally like the Vette very much, but they shouldn't have gone mid-engine, this styling is too much of everything, long hood gone (expected, but still). No manual, it's just not a Vette anymore. And they royally blew it with the interior.

It seems their thinking is that they've gone about as far as a traditional front engined RWD design allows. Proof will be in the sales figures I guess. New customers to the marque won't be put off by it. Traditional 'vette customers could well be. Either way, an exciting car. Particularly at that price point in the US.

[anonymous-user]

The Vette interior looks pretty cheap tbh. Sure it’s a v8 and all but it doesn’t look like a quality cabin to me.

If it’s priced the same as a Porsche Boxter or cayman, I’d probably rather have one of those.