New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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TA14

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284 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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Jon39 said:
Impressive CO2 emissions smile

Jon39

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169 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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My financial security involves spotting duff business ventures and then avoiding them. Think dotcom bubble.

My brandy snap hat is ready

Is this UK sports car venture the next TVR?
If this business succeeds, I will eat my hat.

https://longbowmotors.com/






This is so obviously ridiculous, even Mr. Les Edgar would suspect an April fool joke.



EDIT
When I wrote the above post, I did not believe this could be genuine.
I have now discovered that it might be.

Instead of Longbow, perhaps strike-off would be a better title.
Strike-off cars, available as ordinary; regular, or three striike offs and you're out.






Edited by Jon39 on Friday 4th April 09:19

Granturadriver

714 posts

287 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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Jon39 said:

I can explain the sequence of events. It might help answer your point.

This happy day was the 8th September 2017 at Goodwood.




Everyone thought they were looking at a new TVR, but a car was somehow displayed, which in reality had not yet been built.
People are still mystified about what they did see. CGI, trans metamorphosis, alien beings, image projection. It is still unknown.

On the 31st December 2019 a new TVR Griffith was first registered (according to DVLA MoT records).
The DVLA are also confused by the goings on at TVR, because their vehicle records state Date of first registration January 2020.
Only one day difference, so perhaps they thought only idiots or those juggling figures, would register a motor vehicle one day before it becomes a year old.

We know that Mr. Edgar is an extremely honourable man, so that declaration of the Year of Manufacture (2019), must clearly be true.
He would never countenance any statements, eg. when production begins, which are untrue.

Maybe that Goodwood unveiling involved a magic trick, a body double, mirrors, a full size dummy showcar. Anyway it created great excitement and resulted in collecting many new customer deposits.








Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 3rd April 20:59
I saw it in Frankfurt in September 2018.


The Three D Mucketeer

7,220 posts

253 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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It begs the question ..When is a car not a car ? Does it need an engine ? Does it need a battery and an electric motor ? Does a pedal car count ? Does it need 4 wheels ? jester

TA14

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Friday 4th April 2025
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Date of manufacture has always been when the chassis was built.

The Three D Mucketeer

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Friday 4th April 2025
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Well TVR allocated the build number when the customer specification sheet was raised and hence the VIN number. Many Chimaera chassis and bodies were made in Kuala Lumpur and shipped back and lots sat unallocated at the yard at the factory.

Jon39

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Friday 4th April 2025
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
It begs the question ..When is a car not a car ? Does it need an engine ? Does it need a battery and an electric motor ? Does a pedal car count ? Does it need 4 wheels ? jester

Of course if a newly built car is not driven or parked on public roads, there is no legal requirement for it to be registered.

However the relevant point here, is having declared to the DVLA the 'Year of manufacture 2019', when (we are assuming) the same car was seen by hundreds of people displayed in 2017 at Goodwood and also in 2018 at Frankfurt.


The Three D Mucketeer

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Friday 4th April 2025
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Yes but did it have engine ? or was it a mock up ? smile
Did anyone ever look under the bonnet ? Did it drive itself in to those places or was it pushed ? smile
Since the year of manufacture is part of the VIN , I suspected it didn't have a VIN until later.

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Friday 4th April 13:59

QBee

22,271 posts

170 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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At the TVR show at Burghley House 10 April 2018

The Three D Mucketeer

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Friday 4th April 2025
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smile Well that answers my question smile

QBee

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Friday 4th April 2025
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I also have a clip of it arriving, but am struggling to get it to load on here.

The Three D Mucketeer

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Friday 4th April 2025
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QBee said:
I also have a clip of it arriving, but am struggling to get it to load on here.
So was it road legal then ???

TA14

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284 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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Jon39 said:
Of course if a newly built car is not driven or parked on public roads, there is no legal requirement for it to be registered.

However the relevant point here, is having declared to the DVLA the 'Year of manufacture 2019', when (we are assuming) the same car was seen by hundreds of people displayed in 2017 at Goodwood and also in 2018 at Frankfurt.
Year of manufacture should be 2016 or 2017. The new years eve/day thing is very odd ; it would matter for value for a production car but for a one off development prototype it appears that even the DVLA don't care.

OIC

389 posts

19 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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What's the Griffith prototype worth?

I'd love to own it.

£1 million?

£10 million?

Seriously, I'd love to own that car.

The story so far fits perfectly with TVR's history.

Look at all the ones that never went into production, or where fewer than 10 were made.

Typhoon?

Maybe Taimar Turbo?

There's quite a few non-production 280i versions I think?

C'mon Les make me an offer!

QBee

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Friday 4th April 2025
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
QBee said:
I also have a clip of it arriving, but am struggling to get it to load on here.
So was it road legal then ???
No. It had a black and white plate on the back 1 TVR

The Three D Mucketeer

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253 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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QBee said:
The Three D Mucketeer said:
QBee said:
I also have a clip of it arriving, but am struggling to get it to load on here.
So was it road legal then ???
No. It had a black and white plate on the back 1 TVR
And trailered there ?

Viper201

8,289 posts

169 months

Friday 4th April 2025
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
QBee said:
The Three D Mucketeer said:
QBee said:
I also have a clip of it arriving, but am struggling to get it to load on here.
So was it road legal then ???
No. It had a black and white plate on the back 1 TVR
And trailered there ?
Yes and also trailered to France for Le Mans and an appearance at Beaulieu. Once at the venues it was driven on private grounds at Burghley and Beaulieu but in France outside the hotel that one of the directors owns, it was actually driven round the square on public roads despite not being registered. It became road legal in January 2020 when registered and taxed.

DVLA and DVSA are not quite the same and run separate organisations so probably why there is a discrepancy about the date of registration.

sixor8

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294 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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I saw it at a Neil Garner open day in Malmesbury, Wiltshire in Summer, 2018. I bought some very cheap rubber trim for the rear hood section edge of a Chimaera when I was there.

It was a runner then, I heard it run. I did have photos somewhere, but probably deleted them in a fit of pique. rolleyes

Edited by sixor8 on Saturday 5th April 07:23

baconsarney

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brownspeed

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Saturday 5th April 2025
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are they Runners, pictured above?