New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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baconsarney

12,331 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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Chillies smile

PuffsBack

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251 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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OIC said:
What's the Griffith prototype worth?

I'd love to own it.

£1 million?

£10 million?

Seriously, I'd love to own that car.

The story so far fits perfectly with TVR's history.

Look at all the ones that never went into production, or where fewer than 10 were made.

Typhoon?

Maybe Taimar Turbo?

There's quite a few non-production 280i versions I think?

C'mon Les make me an offer!
I bid £100.....and will happily pay the local scrapyard £250 to crush it so no one ever has to see what has to be one of the worst cars ever to wear a TVR badge. The ultimate blind mans car...heard in start inside Excel in London as it was epic. But looks only a mother could love and tainted with the worst period of TVR history

Byker28i

87,593 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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sixor8 said:
I saw it at a Neil Garner open day in Malmesbury, Wiltshire in Summer, 2018. I bought some very cheap rubber trim for the rear hood section edge of a Chimaera when I was there.

It was a runner then, I heard it run. I did have photos somewhere, but probably deleted them in a fit of pique. rolleyes

Edited by sixor8 on Saturday 5th April 07:23
The Mule was at NG in 2017



Byker28i

87,593 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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Not forgetting the New Griff was on the TVR stand at the Classic show Nov 2017


Byker28i

87,593 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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baconsarney said:
I've done a BaconSarney this year, got in early

Sweetpeas, peppers, chillis, sunflowers, cornflowers...


baconsarney

12,331 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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Byker28i said:
I've done a BaconSarney this year, got in early

Sweetpeas, peppers, chillis, sunflowers, cornflowers...

Nice thumbup

Jon39

14,680 posts

169 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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TA14 said:
Jon39 said:
Of course if a newly built car is not driven or parked on public roads, there is no legal requirement for it to be registered.

However the relevant point here, is having declared to the DVLA the 'Year of manufacture 2019', when (we are assuming) the same car was seen by hundreds of people displayed in 2017 at Goodwood and also in 2018 at Frankfurt.


Year of manufacture should be 2016 or 2017.
The new years eve/day thing is very odd ; it would matter for value for a production car but for a one off development prototype it appears that even the DVLA don't care.

Yes Jonathan, they certainly should have been honest about the year of manufacture. I cannot think of any benefit for them not to do so. Even the first MOT might be 3 years after first registration and not 3 years after the Year of manufacture.

Seems so silly to do something (probably unnecessarily) that can publicly create suspicion about the integrity of a business.

It is rumoured, that in the very early days of Aston Martin (Bamford & Martin Ltd.), registration plates were (perhaps) moved between cars. However, in those very early days of motoring (1919), who would know?

Ref. last day of the year (and month) registration.
This activity is rife at present, particularly with EVs. No obvious benefit for TVR to do it, but the mainstream manufacturers do it to boost monthly registration figures, which are construed by many as actual sales, but in reality many of the vehicles have not been sold.
Would you like a 3 year old unused £60,000 Renault electric van for £14,000?
An unused Porsche Taycan which has been hoping to find a home for 3 years.
How about one of 303 registered, but unsold new Jaguar iPace cars, eg. mileage 10 miles, list about £73,440, yours for £38,890! Take your pick of first registrations, 31 December 2024, 31 January 2025, even March 2025 (registration 25).
Huge discounts are offered in the hope of finding buyers.
Quite why discounts are even necessary is a puzzle, because we are constantly told that EVs are selling in record numbers. confused

If you don't believe all this, look on Autotrader/ Electric cars/ Mileage under 100.







Hopefully no one here has just bought their dream Jaguar iPace for list price. yikes



sixor8

8,262 posts

294 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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Byker28i said:
sixor8 said:
I saw it at a Neil Garner open day in Malmesbury, Wiltshire in Summer, 2018. I bought some very cheap rubber trim for the rear hood section edge of a Chimaera when I was there.

It was a runner then, I heard it run. I did have photos somewhere, but probably deleted them in a fit of pique. rolleyes

Edited by sixor8 on Saturday 5th April 07:23
The Mule was at NG in 2017


You're right of course. I was looking at my maintenance spreadsheet for my Chimaera (at the time) when I used the rubber hoop trim, must have had it over a year. It was the mule, not the finished prototype. rolleyes

Byker28i

87,593 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th April 2025
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Prototype griff was there in 2018 I think? I wasn't though

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

264 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.

GeneralBanter

1,335 posts

41 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Never, on the basis he has been embarrassing himself 4++ years now.

ant550lag

103 posts

104 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
I don't think he will ever come out and say it. I think this will just slowly fade away until everyone has forgotten about it

crosseyedlion

2,380 posts

224 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Theres still multiple people on the payroll. I assume they'll just keep going until its bled dry.

Viper201

8,290 posts

169 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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crosseyedlion said:
Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Theres still multiple people on the payroll. I assume they'll just keep going until its bled dry.
The average number of monthly employees including directors was 7 in the last TVR Automotive accounts. There are 7 directors.

crosseyedlion

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224 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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Viper201 said:
crosseyedlion said:
Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Theres still multiple people on the payroll. I assume they'll just keep going until its bled dry.
The average number of monthly employees including directors was 7 in the last TVR Automotive accounts. There are 7 directors.
You think they're not taking any kind of salary?

MustangGT

13,739 posts

306 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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crosseyedlion said:
Viper201 said:
crosseyedlion said:
Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Theres still multiple people on the payroll. I assume they'll just keep going until its bled dry.
The average number of monthly employees including directors was 7 in the last TVR Automotive accounts. There are 7 directors.
You think they're not taking any kind of salary?
Doubtful, there was no declaration of director's emoluments in the last filed accounts.

Viper201

8,290 posts

169 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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MustangGT said:
crosseyedlion said:
Viper201 said:
crosseyedlion said:
Oldred_V8S said:
When will Les have the balls to come out and say "sorry guys, we thought we could do it, but the dream is dead." He's just embarrassing himself now.
Theres still multiple people on the payroll. I assume they'll just keep going until its bled dry.
The average number of monthly employees including directors was 7 in the last TVR Automotive accounts. There are 7 directors.
You think they're not taking any kind of salary?
Doubtful, there was no declaration of director's emoluments in the last filed accounts.
Plus the bond issue is due in full in 3 weeks time.

Jon39

14,680 posts

169 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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Viper201 said:
The average number of monthly employees including directors was 7 in the last TVR Automotive accounts. There are 7 directors.

What are those 7 employees doing?

Hopefully not doing what imposter gardeners do, pretending to look busy with a leaf blower, before submitting their invoice to the customer.

Perhaps they are seeking quotes from installers of car production line equipment. smile

Most are probably non-exec directors, who just attend Teams/Zoom board meetings, talking about Company progress and future plans. Should be very short meetings therefore.


TA14

14,332 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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Jon39 said:
What are those 7 employees doing?

Hopefully not doing what imposter gardeners do, pretending to look busy with a leaf blower, before submitting their invoice to
Bacon and Byker? smile

popegregory

1,894 posts

160 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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If he could find a magic way of making them and if people still wanted them and if a lot of things; would this news of AM and other small volume manufacturers being exempt from net zero be a massive boost to them?