New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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vaud

58,486 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd March
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baconsarney said:
Wow who manufactures the V8 battery scratchchin
Maybe its a typo and should read 8v.

Gladers01

2,041 posts

74 months

Sunday 22nd March
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vaud said:
baconsarney said:
Wow who manufactures the V8 battery scratchchin
Maybe its a typo and should read 8v.
Or 8 batteries in a V configuration? jester

vaud

58,486 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd March
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Gladers01 said:
Or 8 batteries in a V configuration? jester
That would just cause a pile of trouble.

Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Thursday 26th March
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BritishTvr450 said:
... It's history now ...

My question is how many years needs to pass before people give up on all this hate ... (?)

It has not just become history now.
There have been 1,411 pages in 3 volumes, before this page.
It was clearly history long, long ago.

The last public comment by Mr Edgar, was an email making several promises and leaving readers with an impression of TVR Griffiths driving off a production line.

Mr Edgar has continually encouraged hope and expectation, so until he announces that 'new' TVR has ended, people will follow his lead and continue to take an interest in what is happening.
The business after all, is a group of limited companies, which are obviously required to submit information, which then becomes publicly available.

Obviously almost everyone knew years ago, that this project had finished. Mr Edgar made the start announcement, so surely it would be a simple courtesy for him to make a closing announcement. I doubt that he would like to be categorised with another gutless and weak 'leader'.

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You might be interested in the current AI statement;

Question - What is happening at TVR?

TVR is undergoing yet another revival attempt following a recent merger with Charge Holdings in late 2025. This follows years of delays for the new Griffith, which was originally unveiled in 2017.

Current Status and Ownership

New Parent Company:
TVR is now a subsidiary of Charge Holdings, an automotive group that also owns Charge Cars (known for electric Mustang restomods).
Restructuring: Charge Holdings is leading a "multi-phased restructuring" of TVR to integrate it into a low-volume luxury automotive group.

Upcoming Announcements: More specific details regarding production timelines and technical specs are expected in early 2026.

The TVR Griffith Project
Immediate Priority: The first goal remains the delivery of the V8-powered Griffith to long-waiting customers to maintain the brand s heritage.
Potential Changes: While the original concept featured a 5.0-litre Ford V8 and Gordon Murray s iStream chassis, it is unclear if the production version will retain these exact components due to the age of the prototype and changes in technology rights.
Future Electrification: Following the initial internal combustion models, TVR plans to expand into electrified platforms.

Manufacturing and Infrastructure
Wales Exit: TVR officially abandoned plans to build cars in Ebbw Vale, Wales, in 2024 after repaying government loans. The Welsh government has since put the intended factory site on the open market.
Thruxton Base: The company has shifted focus to a new European Development and Brand Centre located at the Thruxton Circuit
in Hampshire.

Are you interested in the technical specifications of the Griffith prototype, or would you like more information on the history of TVR's previous owners?


Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 26th March 09:41

soad

34,443 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th March
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Enjoyed this yesterday: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jrkYIpt_whw

The Worst Car I Drove on Top Gear – Is It That Bad? (Ben Collins Drives)

The Three D Mucketeer

7,220 posts

253 months

Thursday 26th March
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soad said:
Enjoyed this yesterday: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jrkYIpt_whw

The Worst Car I Drove on Top Gear Is It That Bad? (Ben Collins Drives)
Keep up at the back of the class smile

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

soad

34,443 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th March
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Apologies, didn't see that video earlier - as working weekends. Always good to see these cars out and about though. smile

Still recall spotting the orange Sagaris (two decades ago) locally. smokin

PAUL.S.

3,214 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th March
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I wonder if Les got to keep the car?

Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Friday 27th March
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PAUL.S. said:
I wonder if Les got to keep the car?

As a director and therefore an employee of the limited company, I 'expect' he is paying Benefit in Kind tax for the use of the company vehicle.
Do you think that tax would be based on the total build cost, said to be £millions. Ouch.

Surely HMRC don't read this stuff. - smile


vaud

58,486 posts

181 months

Friday 27th March
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Jon39 said:

As a director and therefore an employee of the limited company, I 'expect' he is paying Benefit in Kind tax for the use of the company vehicle.
Do you think that tax would be based on the total build cost, said to be £millions. Ouch.

Surely HMRC don't read this stuff. - smile
No, there are different rules for employees of car manufacturers

1) if an employee changes vehicle frequently then they use an average

2) company owned vehicles are treated differently (but about to change)

3) prototypes have their own rule book

Viper201

8,290 posts

169 months

Friday 27th March
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Not a lot happening with the car.


Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Friday 27th March
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vaud said:
No, there are different rules for employees of car manufacturers ...

I am sorry.
I did not realise 'new' TVR is a car manufacturer. - smile

I thought the only car named TVR built this century, was manufactured by completely seperate business.

Which cars are 'new' TVR now manufacturing?

TA14

14,332 posts

284 months

Friday 27th March
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Jon39 said:

vaud said:
No, there are different rules for employees of car manufacturers ...

I am sorry.
I did not realise 'new' TVR is a car manufacturer. - smile

I thought the only car named TVR built this century, was manufactured by completely seperate business.

Which cars are 'new' TVR now manufacturing?
The same way that Jaguar are a car manufacturer (or however they spell it now)

PAUL.S.

3,214 posts

272 months

Friday 27th March
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Just looked and no change of v5 either, so it was probably an asset that remained under the ownership of the company when it was sold.

All that effort over all those years and even Les never ended up with a new TVR either it seems.

Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Friday 27th March
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TA14 said:
Jon39 said:

vaud said:
No, there are different rules for employees of car manufacturers ...

I am sorry.
I did not realise 'new' TVR is a car manufacturer. - smile

I thought the only car named TVR built this century, was manufactured by completely seperate business.

Which cars are 'new' TVR now manufacturing?

The same way that Jaguar are a car manufacturer (or however they spell it now)

Ah yes, you have provided an exact comparison (at present anyway, likely forever I fear). Good spot.

Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, Rolls Royce, Bentley have all admitted, that there is minimal demand for £100,000+ battery cars.
Jaguar seem to think that offering the same again, will achieve a different result. [Albert Einstein quote]


QBee

22,271 posts

170 months

Friday 27th March
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How much does a new Porsche Taycan cost?
And is there any demand for them, even if the Turbo model is missing its turbo?

Gazzab

21,595 posts

308 months

Friday 27th March
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QBee said:
How much does a new Porsche Taycan cost?
And is there any demand for them, even if the Turbo model is missing its turbo?
Company car tax incentive buyers mainly.

Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Saturday 28th March
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Gazzab said:
QBee said:
How much does a new Porsche Taycan cost?
And is there any demand for them, even if the Turbo model is missing its turbo?
Company car tax incentive buyers mainly.

The cost?
About half, when you drive your new Taycan away from the dealer.

Porsche sales staff will tell you, the Taycan is a great car, very popular and selling really well.
However, when you want to get rid of your used Taycan, perhaps because the insurance cost is horrific, the Porsche dealer doesn't want it. Odd that. - smile




Gazzab

21,595 posts

308 months

Saturday 28th March
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Jon39 said:

Gazzab said:
QBee said:
How much does a new Porsche Taycan cost?
And is there any demand for them, even if the Turbo model is missing its turbo?
Company car tax incentive buyers mainly.

The cost?
About half, when you drive your new Taycan away from the dealer.

Porsche sales staff will tell you, the Taycan is a great car, very popular and selling really well.
However, when you want to get rid of your used Taycan, perhaps because the insurance cost is horrific, the Porsche dealer doesn't want it. Odd that. - smile
Most will be leased.

Jon39

14,658 posts

169 months

Saturday 28th March
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Gazzab said:
Most will be leased.

Have you seen the losses now being reported by leasing companies?
Many original estimated residual values, have turned out to be far too high.

Batches of vehicles handed back at the end of lease, are then put into car auctions.
With used demand exceeding end of lease supply, the prices achieved are lower than the residuals and so the leasing firm has to take the hit.
I hear that some lessees are being offered one year extensions. It puts off the lessor's write down for further year.