New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

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phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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You guys! rolleyeslaugh

By the way if there was sighting of Les’s Griff in the south of France, it is back in the deserted office at Walliswood in Surrey. Passed there this afternoon.


Pupp

12,219 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Getting back to the subject (sorry), two property alerts popped up on Land Registry yesterday, affecting the two titles comprising the different sides of the ‘factory’ site. The alerts related to ‘dealings’ with the properties comprised in those titles giving registration priority and lodged by a major national commercial conveyancing firm.

Leases imminent, or done, perhaps.

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Pupp said:
Getting back to the subject (sorry), two property alerts popped up on Land Registry yesterday, affecting the two titles comprising the different sides of the ‘factory’ site. The alerts related to ‘dealings’ with the properties comprised in those titles giving registration priority and lodged by a major national commercial conveyancing firm.

Leases imminent, or done, perhaps.
What? I have no idea what any of that means Pupp.. is that good news? Bad news? No news? Sounds like a TVR press release… noise with no meaning… sorry for the negativity but I’ve listened to too much politicians drivel and blame bo**ocks in the last few years to take anything at face value… politicians and marketing people… waste of good air… self serving low life morons.

Sorry… rant over smile

Pupp

12,219 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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baconsarney said:

What? I have no idea what any of that means Pupp.. is that good news? Bad news? No news? Sounds like a TVR press release… noise with no meaning… sorry for the negativity but I’ve listened to too much politicians drivel and blame bo**ocks in the last few years to take anything at face value… politicians and marketing people… waste of good air… self serving low life morons.

Sorry… rant over smile
It’s neither good nor bad necessarily; it’s just factual info about what the national keeper of property interest records is notifying anyone of who is looking at the two sites comprising the factory. Something has changed or is about to change with the legal ownership or with equitable interests registered against the factory.

silentbrown

8,823 posts

116 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Leases imminent, or done, perhaps.
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But a lease wouldn't be of any of interest to the Land Registry...?

curious...

LucyP

1,698 posts

59 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Pupp said:

It’s neither good nor bad necessarily; it’s just factual info about what the national keeper of property interest records is notifying anyone of who is looking at the two sites comprising the factory. Something has changed or is about to change with the legal ownership or with equitable interests registered against the factory.
This is almost correct. It means that an application has been made to change the Land Register, or there will be one made shortly, and the lawyers have either filed it, or obtained a final search, which gives a period in which that application is given priority to any others that are subsequently made. These are just legal technicalities.

Once the Land Registry have finished processing the application, then it will appear on the Register and you will be able to see what it was. It could be a sale, the registration of a lease, or the registration of a charge for example.

The question is, do these relate to the actual factory, which could be related to TVR, or nearby buildings that are not related?

Someone asked why the Land Registry would be interested in a lease. Any lease for a period of over 7 years has to be registered at the Land Registry.

(And just to be correct, someone mentioned the registration of equitable interests, but you cannot register those. The Land Registry only deal with the Legal Estate.)

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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My head hurts now….

Pupp

12,219 posts

272 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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LucyP said:
Pupp said:

It’s neither good nor bad necessarily; it’s just factual info about what the national keeper of property interest records is notifying anyone of who is looking at the two sites comprising the factory. Something has changed or is about to change with the legal ownership or with equitable interests registered against the factory.

This is almost correct. It means that an application has been made to change the Land Register, or there will be one made shortly, and the lawyers have either filed it, or obtained a final search, which gives a period in which that application is given priority to any others that are subsequently made. These are just legal technicalities.

Once the Land Registry have finished processing the application, then it will appear on the Register and you will be able to see what it was. It could be a sale, the registration of a lease, or the registration of a charge for example.

The question is, do these relate to the actual factory, which could be related to TVR, or nearby buildings that are not related?

Someone asked why the Land Registry would be interested in a lease. Any lease for a period of over 7 years has to be registered at the Land Registry.

(And just to be correct, someone mentioned the registration of equitable interests, but you cannot register those. The Land Registry only deal with the Legal Estate.)
It was entirely correct if you take my use of the word equitable to mean the securing of a monies charge or mortgage, which was the way it was intended in response to someone clearly not versed in the minutiae of property law or wanting to be. The two title numbers concerned relate to the factory, not to ‘nearby buildings’ but that doesn’t mean the transaction(s) being protected pending registration encumber the entirety of the titles (a sale off of part, for example, or registerable lease of part, could be the subject).

Thought the group might be interested in a factual update from a key info source but will let you learn about future ones from Les’ PR flunkies.

rolleyes


N7GTX

7,859 posts

143 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Thanks for this Pupp. As both the Govt and TVR have said the lease should be signed in Q2 - after missing Q1 as the factory had not quite been completed by Mr Jones - it does sound like the handover to TVR is imminent. No doubt LE will be shouting all this from the roof tops in the near future if it is correct.

Gazzab

21,090 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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But I thought the factory was irrelevant.

LucyP

1,698 posts

59 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Pupp said:

It was entirely correct

It wasn't! You cannot register an equitable mortgage or charge at the Land Registry!

You cannot even create an equitable mortgage or charge intentionally. You do so by cocking up the formalities for a legal mortgage or charge, and when you come to register it, the Land Registry will reject it, and you will be asking to lawyers to do it again, properly and/or suing them.

The minute you started talking about the registration of equitable interests, then your post was wrong.

What we will do is to wait a few weeks until the registration of whatever has been applied to be registered has been completed by the Land Registry and then we will know what has happened in reality. We don't need the TVR press release.

skiver.

656 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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sleep

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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skiver. said:
sleep
Yo skiver still alive then biggrin

skiver.

656 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Covid tried but still here mate.

How you doin' Richard?

glow worm

5,840 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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skiver. said:
How you doin' Richard?
I think he's chillin'

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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skiver. said:
Covid tried but still here mate.

How you doin' Richard?
Good here Stu… damn thing tried with me too in the first wave… good to hear you’re still kicking smile

Pupp

12,219 posts

272 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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LucyP said:
What we will do is to wait a few weeks until the registration of whatever has been applied to be registered has been completed by the Land Registry and then we will know what has happened in reality. We don't need the TVR press release.
A few weeks? You’ve clearly had no recent experience of HMLR processing times.

N7GTX

7,859 posts

143 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Pupp said:
LucyP said:
What we will do is to wait a few weeks until the registration of whatever has been applied to be registered has been completed by the Land Registry and then we will know what has happened in reality. We don't need the TVR press release.
A few weeks? You’ve clearly had no recent experience of HMLR processing times.
I made an enquiry with them on the 6th January and chased them up several times. They finally responded on the 13th May. rolleyes

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Civil servants eh.. I’ve never understood why the name is still used.. moving on after I’ve done the jam thing later in the year I’ll have a limited number of super hot chilli fruits to share… well?

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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No takers then…