New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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glow worm said:
phazed said:
You don’t get posts like this on the Porsche forum sadly.
More like, “should I fit carbon fibre cup holders !”
or what perm lotion do you use ? More like, “should I fit carbon fibre cup holders !”
It reminds me of the yoof of today, more bothered about "has it got Apple Carplay and internet connectivity in outer space" than "what's the 0-60 time" when changing their car.
My daughter just changed her SEAT estate for a Suzuki S Cross and is disappointed with the Suzuki.
When selecting the Suzuki she made sure it had as much tech as the space shuttle, but omitted actually to drive one with an automatic gearbox before ordering.
Apparently it's a jerky as a Peter Crouch goal celebration (showing my age there) when changing up through the box.
phazed said:
You don’t get posts like this on the Porsche forum sadly.
More like, “should I fit carbon fibre cup holders !”
Just a Neighbourhood Watch update for you Peter. Its been a while...More like, “should I fit carbon fibre cup holders !”
My delightful neighbour, who has been very quiet since his second police caution, was burgled at 4am yesterday. After years of complaining about my CCTV system he asked a neighbour to get me to review the CCTV to identify the baddie. I had already reviewed it as we were overdue a prowler/car thief/burglar since November when 2 BMWs from neighbouring houses were attacked.
The footage was nice and clear as he walked under a lamp post and after 3 minutes breaking in - you could hear the door being forced so not subtle at all - the dog barks and the baddie runs across the front garden and off. Some minutes later the neighbour's wife comes out with the dog and goes after the baddie who is long gone by now thankfully because if he had a knife....
Police come to the house to see the footage. I told them he had his own CCTV now but it seems its a very cheap camera that's no good. I stop the review it when the baddie is under the lamp post and one plod gets excited and says, 'I know him, I got him sent down last time. He's only just come out. We'll get the red key and go and see him. Can we have a copy please?' For a very brief moment I nearly said no but my civic duty and all that.
This morning as the neighbour drives off to collect his grandson, he gives the CCTV camera the usual 2 finger salute. Luvly.
P.S. How is lovely Surrey?
Ah, the Yorkshire salute, championed by Harvey Smith (those of you who watched showjumping on the telly back in the 1970s-80s will remember him).
Most of our local tossery comes from this area of the town:
I was watching an episode of Police Interceptors the other night and saw plod chase a stolen X3 around the Newark bypass and down the A46 towards Leicester....until said tossers realised they were running away from their home base, did a 3 point turn in the southbound carnageway and headed back north to Newark, the wrong way up the southbound carnageway.
Next plodmobile took up the chase into Newark at 80 in a 30, turning into the street at the bottom right of this photo, still at 70 mph, left into Mill Lane, over the bridge, left again into the dead end and crashed, nearly hitting a cyclist (no cheering, Peter). They then made off on cloven hoof to Tosser Central, home to "tree surgeons" and the like. Police, knowing where they were going, didn't even try to follow, instead collaring the 16 year old passenger, who was trapped in the car when it crashed.
Most of our local tossery comes from this area of the town:
I was watching an episode of Police Interceptors the other night and saw plod chase a stolen X3 around the Newark bypass and down the A46 towards Leicester....until said tossers realised they were running away from their home base, did a 3 point turn in the southbound carnageway and headed back north to Newark, the wrong way up the southbound carnageway.
Next plodmobile took up the chase into Newark at 80 in a 30, turning into the street at the bottom right of this photo, still at 70 mph, left into Mill Lane, over the bridge, left again into the dead end and crashed, nearly hitting a cyclist (no cheering, Peter). They then made off on cloven hoof to Tosser Central, home to "tree surgeons" and the like. Police, knowing where they were going, didn't even try to follow, instead collaring the 16 year old passenger, who was trapped in the car when it crashed.
Viper201 said:
P.S. How is lovely Surrey?
Pretty good apart from them building new housing Estates here, there and everywhere! FFS, why do they need all this Housing? Just cut the population down and job done. Don’t know why anyone hasn’t thought of that.Apart from that, Mrs phazed had furr Indian runner ducks given to her to compliment her 12 chickens. Of course that means me extending the enclosure, building a duck house and other stuff that takes me away from the more important things in life!
As for crime. Half an hours drive from me is the s
t hole called Crawley. where number one son duties on response with the rozzers. What a difference a short distance makes. Mind you, I think Crawley is in Sussex, so maybe it’s all good! If he is not attending to domestic violence, he is dealing with the usual scroats or being attacked by really nasty people and occasionally cutting down the odd body. All in a days work. They are not paid enough by far!On the plus side, I have just clad the temporary scaffold enclosure for our Motorhome which makes it less of an eyesore to us! otherwise all good!
QBee said:
Ah, the Yorkshire salute, championed by Harvey Smith (those of you who watched showjumping on the telly back in the 1970s-80s will remember him).
Most of our local tossery comes from this area of the town:
I was watching an episode of Police Interceptors the other night and saw plod chase a stolen X3 around the Newark bypass and down the A46 towards Leicester....until said tossers realised they were running away from their home base, did a 3 point turn in the southbound carnageway and headed back north to Newark, the wrong way up the southbound carnageway.
Next plodmobile took up the chase into Newark at 80 in a 30, turning into the street at the bottom right of this photo, still at 70 mph, left into Mill Lane, over the bridge, left again into the dead end and crashed, nearly hitting a cyclist (no cheering, Peter). They then made off on cloven hoof to Tosser Central, home to "tree surgeons" and the like. Police, knowing where they were going, didn't even try to follow, instead collaring the 16 year old passenger, who was trapped in the car when it crashed.
Ah Tolney Lane. Where no one works (officially), pay no tax of any description but have nice brand new cars with Transit pickups as their daily drivers. I believe the most common surname there is Gray. Most of our local tossery comes from this area of the town:
I was watching an episode of Police Interceptors the other night and saw plod chase a stolen X3 around the Newark bypass and down the A46 towards Leicester....until said tossers realised they were running away from their home base, did a 3 point turn in the southbound carnageway and headed back north to Newark, the wrong way up the southbound carnageway.
Next plodmobile took up the chase into Newark at 80 in a 30, turning into the street at the bottom right of this photo, still at 70 mph, left into Mill Lane, over the bridge, left again into the dead end and crashed, nearly hitting a cyclist (no cheering, Peter). They then made off on cloven hoof to Tosser Central, home to "tree surgeons" and the like. Police, knowing where they were going, didn't even try to follow, instead collaring the 16 year old passenger, who was trapped in the car when it crashed.
baconsarney said:
Oldwolf said:
Anyone else heading for Le Mans this year?
I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
Yep I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
travelling down Wednesday back Tuesday after… which Sunday 
QBee said:
baconsarney said:
Oldwolf said:
Anyone else heading for Le Mans this year?
I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
Yep I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
travelling down Wednesday back Tuesday after… which Sunday 
TwinKam said:
QBee said:
baconsarney said:
Oldwolf said:
Anyone else heading for Le Mans this year?
I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
Yep I'll be heading down on Sunday, hopefully in time to catch the last of the free practice.
travelling down Wednesday back Tuesday after… which Sunday 
QBee said:
Unlike all other rolling roads, Dom quotes the BHP at the wheels, ie the only true number you get from a rolling road.
But TVR owners like to brag about big numbers, so others use the mathematically coerrected BHP at the flywheel number, which is 15 to 20% higher than the wheel BHP.
Hence when someone shows us their graph for a well modified Griff 500 naturally aspirated and it shows 360 bhp, that would be somewhere in the region of 305 bhp on Dom's rolling road.
Cutting to the chase, the Facebook post by Dom in the TVR group, of a supercharged grey N reg Griff showing 478 wheel BHP would read about 580 bhp at the flywheel on anyone else's rolling road.
Presumably a lot of development has gone on with that car, as it wouldn't survive that level of power on a standard RV8 engine and TVR chassis. It would need forged engine internals, probably a stonger power train and possibly a change of gearbox too. Then you would need the chassis strengthening as well.
Anyone going "wow, I must get a supercharger" needs to bear in mind that the supercharger part of the equation is just the first 20% of the total cost. I know a TVR owner who supercharged his Chimaera, got over 470 bhp at the flywheel, but not before he had had to rebuild the engine and change the gearbox - his original engine destroyed itself.
Major power increases from an RV8 engine are possible, but while a bit cheaper, are rather similar in cost profile to swapping to an LS3 engine. The LS3 engine itself, when I looked into it about 5 years ago, was less than £5,000. I got a quote from Sportmotive for the all the neccesary bits, and it was £18,000, installation labour was just £3,000 on top.
Then whatever you do, don't look at the modified Speed Six wiki that shows a car a few days apart showing 1bhp difference between 'at the wheels' and not.... Definitely wouldn't advise that.But TVR owners like to brag about big numbers, so others use the mathematically coerrected BHP at the flywheel number, which is 15 to 20% higher than the wheel BHP.
Hence when someone shows us their graph for a well modified Griff 500 naturally aspirated and it shows 360 bhp, that would be somewhere in the region of 305 bhp on Dom's rolling road.
Cutting to the chase, the Facebook post by Dom in the TVR group, of a supercharged grey N reg Griff showing 478 wheel BHP would read about 580 bhp at the flywheel on anyone else's rolling road.
Presumably a lot of development has gone on with that car, as it wouldn't survive that level of power on a standard RV8 engine and TVR chassis. It would need forged engine internals, probably a stonger power train and possibly a change of gearbox too. Then you would need the chassis strengthening as well.
Anyone going "wow, I must get a supercharger" needs to bear in mind that the supercharger part of the equation is just the first 20% of the total cost. I know a TVR owner who supercharged his Chimaera, got over 470 bhp at the flywheel, but not before he had had to rebuild the engine and change the gearbox - his original engine destroyed itself.
Major power increases from an RV8 engine are possible, but while a bit cheaper, are rather similar in cost profile to swapping to an LS3 engine. The LS3 engine itself, when I looked into it about 5 years ago, was less than £5,000. I got a quote from Sportmotive for the all the neccesary bits, and it was £18,000, installation labour was just £3,000 on top.
Don1 said:
QBee said:
Unlike all other rolling roads, Dom quotes the BHP at the wheels, ie the only true number you get from a rolling road.
But TVR owners like to brag about big numbers, so others use the mathematically coerrected BHP at the flywheel number, which is 15 to 20% higher than the wheel BHP.
Hence when someone shows us their graph for a well modified Griff 500 naturally aspirated and it shows 360 bhp, that would be somewhere in the region of 305 bhp on Dom's rolling road.
Cutting to the chase, the Facebook post by Dom in the TVR group, of a supercharged grey N reg Griff showing 478 wheel BHP would read about 580 bhp at the flywheel on anyone else's rolling road.
Presumably a lot of development has gone on with that car, as it wouldn't survive that level of power on a standard RV8 engine and TVR chassis. It would need forged engine internals, probably a stonger power train and possibly a change of gearbox too. Then you would need the chassis strengthening as well.
Anyone going "wow, I must get a supercharger" needs to bear in mind that the supercharger part of the equation is just the first 20% of the total cost. I know a TVR owner who supercharged his Chimaera, got over 470 bhp at the flywheel, but not before he had had to rebuild the engine and change the gearbox - his original engine destroyed itself.
Major power increases from an RV8 engine are possible, but while a bit cheaper, are rather similar in cost profile to swapping to an LS3 engine. The LS3 engine itself, when I looked into it about 5 years ago, was less than £5,000. I got a quote from Sportmotive for the all the neccesary bits, and it was £18,000, installation labour was just £3,000 on top.
Then whatever you do, don't look at the modified Speed Six wiki that shows a car a few days apart showing 1bhp difference between 'at the wheels' and not.... Definitely wouldn't advise that.But TVR owners like to brag about big numbers, so others use the mathematically coerrected BHP at the flywheel number, which is 15 to 20% higher than the wheel BHP.
Hence when someone shows us their graph for a well modified Griff 500 naturally aspirated and it shows 360 bhp, that would be somewhere in the region of 305 bhp on Dom's rolling road.
Cutting to the chase, the Facebook post by Dom in the TVR group, of a supercharged grey N reg Griff showing 478 wheel BHP would read about 580 bhp at the flywheel on anyone else's rolling road.
Presumably a lot of development has gone on with that car, as it wouldn't survive that level of power on a standard RV8 engine and TVR chassis. It would need forged engine internals, probably a stonger power train and possibly a change of gearbox too. Then you would need the chassis strengthening as well.
Anyone going "wow, I must get a supercharger" needs to bear in mind that the supercharger part of the equation is just the first 20% of the total cost. I know a TVR owner who supercharged his Chimaera, got over 470 bhp at the flywheel, but not before he had had to rebuild the engine and change the gearbox - his original engine destroyed itself.
Major power increases from an RV8 engine are possible, but while a bit cheaper, are rather similar in cost profile to swapping to an LS3 engine. The LS3 engine itself, when I looked into it about 5 years ago, was less than £5,000. I got a quote from Sportmotive for the all the neccesary bits, and it was £18,000, installation labour was just £3,000 on top.
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