New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
Discussion
baconsarney said:
Yes yes but what does it all mean? Where is it going? Is it going? Why are we here? Why do I have almost no bees in my garden? These are the things we need to know .. or something .
I had a huge bumble bee outside my office window just now, but the sun is shining and there is a 20 foot tall plum tree in full bloom less than 10 feet from the window.(Apologies for imperial measurements, but this is the TVR Thread, after all)
QBee said:
baconsarney said:
Yes yes but what does it all mean? Where is it going? Is it going? Why are we here? Why do I have almost no bees in my garden? These are the things we need to know .. or something .
I had a huge bumble bee outside my office window just now, but the sun is shining and there is a 20 foot tall plum tree in full bloom less than 10 feet from the window.(Apologies for imperial measurements, but this is the TVR Thread, after all)
I have no idea where the TVR saga is going but if the new directors are buying up old brands, it wouldn't be a surprise to see them being sold to a Chinese manufacturer one day.
Viper201 said:
I have no idea where the TVR saga is going but if the new directors are buying up old brands, it wouldn't be a surprise to see them being sold to a Chinese manufacturer one day.
Chinese manufacturers tried Saab with no success, tried Lotus with very mitigated success, tried Volvo selling almost the same flagships since decade. They have hundreds of local manufacturers which are creating new brands everyday (ok I'm exaggerating a bit).
Why on earth would they bother to buy TVR which is only known by few car enthusiasts and with no technology, no knowledge or no plant to make the bride look even more beautiful (as we say in France)?
QBee said:
The only reason I can think of is MG, and I don't actually know what the Chinese bought there.
They bought the Longbridge factory (and then moved the tooling in China few years later) and the Rover products. So cars ready to be produced.Here it was successful, had the MG badge helped to sell cars in Europe? Not sure on the continent.
But what was in the basket was not too bad, the Rover 75 was a good starting point.
Zeb74 said:
Viper201 said:
I have no idea where the TVR saga is going but if the new directors are buying up old brands, it wouldn't be a surprise to see them being sold to a Chinese manufacturer one day.
Chinese manufacturers tried Saab with no success, tried Lotus with very mitigated success, tried Volvo selling almost the same flagships since decade. They have hundreds of local manufacturers which are creating new brands everyday (ok I'm exaggerating a bit).
Why on earth would they bother to buy TVR which is only known by few car enthusiasts and with no technology, no knowledge or no plant to make the bride look even more beautiful (as we say in France)?
TVR had not produced anything for 7 years before 'newco' bought the name.
As for no knowledge or technology, Charge Cars do have EV knowledge and while they did not sell any cars they clearly had some skill and the LinkedIn profiles of the Charge directors would support this.
But this could just be more of the same...
Zeb74 said:
Viper201 said:
I have no idea where the TVR saga is going but if the new directors are buying up old brands, it wouldn't be a surprise to see them being sold to a Chinese manufacturer one day.
Chinese manufacturers tried Saab with no success, tried Lotus with very mitigated success, tried Volvo selling almost the same flagships since decade. They have hundreds of local manufacturers which are creating new brands everyday (ok I'm exaggerating a bit).
Why on earth would they bother to buy TVR which is only known by few car enthusiasts and with no technology, no knowledge or no plant to make the bride look even more beautiful (as we say in France)?
I had assumed that by purchasing and then using the MG brand name on Chinese cars, provided instant recognition amongst prospective UK buyers.
However, the past 12 months has proved that previous brand recognition is not necessary.
BYD and Jaecoo went from nothing in the UK market, to having huge sales figures within one year.
Customers just cannot resist low prices, even when artificially low.
How about a £30,000 new car for initial £299 and monthly £299 - (Leapmotor)?
Or another brand new 26 plate Leapmotor, for initial £175 and monthly £175.
Solihull, Burnaston, Sunderland and Oxford must be concerned about their futures.
TVR have no need to worry.
Chinese cars are flooding the market.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
Penrhyn said:
Chinese cars are flooding the market.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
Are the mainstream cars priced too high, or are the Chinese cars priced too low?
Manufacturing efficiencies and costs are different, but most of the western manufacturers are not hugely profitable, if profit is compared to revenue.
When a car manufacturer is owned by a communist government, perhaps price flexibility might be the polite phrase.
It has been tried before. Remember Lada and Moskvitch. They were cheap, but the products were not very attractive to British customers. The present Chinese cars are cheap and apparently very attractive to UK buyers, particularly Motobility.
Jon39 said:
Penrhyn said:
Chinese cars are flooding the market.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
All established car manufacturers must be worried.
The car above has attractive pricing too see below
The price of new mainstream manufactured cars is way too high, something has to give. And let's face it, with the most expensive energy costs in the developed world JLR, Nissan, Toyota plants must be in jeopardy.
Are the mainstream cars priced too high, or are the Chinese cars priced too low?
Manufacturing efficiencies and costs are different, but most of the western manufacturers are not hugely profitable, if profit is compared to revenue.
When a car manufacturer is owned by a communist government, perhaps price flexibility might be the polite phrase.
It has been tried before. Remember Lada and Moskvitch. They were cheap, but the products were not very attractive to British customers. The present Chinese cars are cheap and apparently very attractive to UK buyers, particularly Motobility.
Meanwhile, in other news, Jensen are back. Allegedly.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/jensen...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/jensen...
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