Warranty Update
Discussion
bennno said:
The slight issue you have is that you may have been required to give them first opportunity to fix the car.
I would write to them first thing and include 'noticed faults on way home, but given the TVR warranty that you confirmed the car was supplied with I booked it in to a main dealer for resolution. Its since turned out that due to servicing irregularities the warranty you confirmed wasnt valid and I have been presented with a bill for £XXXX. I would appreciate confirmation that you will cover the cost of repairs noticed on delivery of the car, and booked in for resolution within 10 days at a main dealer and provide an alternate warranty within X days. I hope we can resolve this amicably etc'
If they dont respond / dont respond positively then get a solicitor to send them a letter mentioning small claims court.
BTW if you financed the car then your issue is with them as legally the dealer sold to them and them to you in law
Bennno
Benno, I talked to TG when this blew up - he was somewhat incensed over the phone and called up TVR Power to have a chat. He then called me back and said all was OK and not to worry as the issues were between TVR Power and TVR Centre, and the fact that the latter had recenty gone into liquidation had caused some of the unrest, but that it would all be sorted out.
As of now it hasn't been sorted out as I've paid the bill but, having spoken to both Martin and Dom in the last 24 hours I have faith that it will be.
Call me stupid if any of you want to, but I don't want these institutions to go down if they don't deserve to, I don't want them to struggle any more than they already have. I want TVR back in some form or another and I am beginning to believe that they will be back - in one form or another. Having said this if TVR are to continue making cars they have to sort this out above all the other things they have to sort out, otherwise they will fail because of the stigma they have left behind, nobody will buy their cars if this is left unresolved, and it is this that gives me hope for the future.
I feel like some sort of weak tosser to be airing my grievances on a forum like this this when, on the other hand, I am donating money to keep TVR going/factory worker benefits, etc.
BUT, if they don't sort it out they will disappear (as Lancia did because we all know even today that Lancias still rust - 20 years on) and we'll all carry on enjoying our cars and our community just like the many British enthusiasts that enjoy their Austin Healey, MG, Jowett, Armstrong Siddeley, Alvis, Jensen, Gordon Keeble, Gilbern, etc
It will be sorted, one way or the other - I hope it's the other, because the World needs TVR to stick two fingers up to the establishment every time it gets a purchase order. I want my kids to be able to buy 500bhp TVRs running on BioFuel that is farmed on land owned by TVR - just to fuel TVRs - it wouldn't be that hard. If TVR goes, a big part of our National (up yours) Identity will go with it, and it won't return in any of our lifetimes. And that will be sad.
Forget all of the above emotion, my point, put simply, is that the supplying dealer (Tony Gilbert) is liable for the costs of putting the car right if the factory wont due to liquidation or invalid warranty.
You should follow this path as it is his problem legally. I expect the repairs probably cost a few £k? And as noticed on way home from dealer etc you are the last person that should be caught in this.
I fear TVR is doomed (sad to say as a 5x owner) plenty of people were questioning the logic of 4 nigh on identical cars (same power, seats, performance, price) and their move away from providing balistic performance for £30k to providing it for £45-£50k (whilst every other manufacturer was getting cheaper and competition increasing - i.e. since griff TT, SLK, Monaro, Boxster, E46 M3, 350Z, Elise, Exige, XK8-R, V8 Vantage etc).
Bennno
You should follow this path as it is his problem legally. I expect the repairs probably cost a few £k? And as noticed on way home from dealer etc you are the last person that should be caught in this.
I fear TVR is doomed (sad to say as a 5x owner) plenty of people were questioning the logic of 4 nigh on identical cars (same power, seats, performance, price) and their move away from providing balistic performance for £30k to providing it for £45-£50k (whilst every other manufacturer was getting cheaper and competition increasing - i.e. since griff TT, SLK, Monaro, Boxster, E46 M3, 350Z, Elise, Exige, XK8-R, V8 Vantage etc).
Bennno
Edited by bennno on Tuesday 23 January 08:58
A Chim 400 was £29,995 brand new
A Griff was £36,500 (less a bit) new in 2000.
A Cerb was circa £37k when it came out.
Its difficult to imagine now but none of the other cars listed existed when the Griff first came out, and whilst they arent the same calibre or speed it does show that the market suddenly re-embraced sports cars and convertibles to provide TVR with much tougher competition.
Bennno
bennno said:
A Chim 400 was £29,995 brand new
A Griff was £36,500 (less a bit) new in 2000.
A Cerb was circa £37k when it came out.
Its difficult to imagine now but none of the other cars listed existed when the Griff first came out, and whilst they arent the same calibre or speed it does show that the market suddenly re-embraced sports cars and convertibles to provide TVR with much tougher competition.
Bennno
my 4.3 griff was £28k new
4.0 griff £26k
at the time 968/944 convertibles 38k+
B
bennno said:
A Chim 400 was £29,995 brand new
A Griff was £36,500 (less a bit) new in 2000.
A Cerb was circa £37k when it came out.
Its difficult to imagine now but none of the other cars listed existed when the Griff first came out, and whilst they arent the same calibre or speed it does show that the market suddenly re-embraced sports cars and convertibles to provide TVR with much tougher competition.
Bennno
like i said nearer to £40k than £30k for a new Griff 500, Chim 4.5/5.0 and CERBYS and thats without the otr price and extras such as air con which was a must for a Cerby, full leather, Pearl paint etc etc. £30K would not have got you any of the above in the late 90s when TVR were flying high.
Edited by Uncle Bulgaria on Tuesday 23 January 10:41
bennno said:
A Chim 400 was £29,995 brand new
A Griff was £36,500 (less a bit) new in 2000.
A Cerb was circa £37k when it came out.
Its difficult to imagine now but none of the other cars listed existed when the Griff first came out, and whilst they arent the same calibre or speed it does show that the market suddenly re-embraced sports cars and convertibles to provide TVR with much tougher competition.
Bennno
My Griff with a few options (Leather doorcards, Rear Speakers, CD Changer, Accumate) came in at £37800)
Prices 2001
Chimaera 4.5 OTR £35165 without any extras
5.0 OTR £36865 without any extras
Cerbera 4.2 OTR £41099 without any extras
I don't think it was price which put most people off as long as it was kept under £50k. It was some of the new shapes and something else which I am not going to mention here in case I get my head bitten off.
Chimaera 4.5 OTR £35165 without any extras
5.0 OTR £36865 without any extras
Cerbera 4.2 OTR £41099 without any extras
I don't think it was price which put most people off as long as it was kept under £50k. It was some of the new shapes and something else which I am not going to mention here in case I get my head bitten off.
Edited by Uncle Bulgaria on Tuesday 23 January 10:58
puffsorted2 said:
Jappo said:
[quote=puffsorted2]At least you can show where the car clocked up its mileage - might also explain the synchro problem 
www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Tour-Europe-John-Matthews/dp/B000CR6WRG
www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Tour-Europe-John-Matthews/dp/B000CR6WRG
Edited by puffsorted2 on Monday 22 January 15:15
Have you seen it - is it my car?
No but pretty sure it might be your car, but looking at it now the wheels are slightly different. There was a bit in Sprint about it a few months ago (July 2006)
OK, watched the DVD. Compared to mine it's missing the Momo Steering wheel, red seat belts and red calipers - all of which were on the car from new and at 0 miles according to the docs. I can see no bills for the OZ wheels in the car's history. However, and here's the wierd bit, my car did 4,500 odd miles between 7th June 05 and 27th July 05. How many GTS Blue with Cream interior, and body painted bee-sting Tuscan Aerial, 05 Reg Sagaris were made? And how likely is it that both covered this kind of mileage at the same time.
There can't have been that many Sagaris made in total - ever, does anyone have access to the Sagaris production run who can tell me how many GTS Blues were made between May and September 05?
Jappo said:
Does anybody know about Sagaris production numbers? Had no response on TVRCC either.
Surely can't be that many! I can imagine that the Momo wheel was removed and the Calipers replaced for some reason, or maybe even resprayed silver during a service (my calipers were resprayed on my Chimaera during a service by Austec) - but the seat belts replaced is weird
Would be cool if it is your car (well assuming it was thrashed to death in the DVD!)
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