TVR taxation class

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glow worm

5,844 posts

227 months

Monday 9th March 2009
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MOTs test CO (Carbon Monoxide) emissions, car tax rating is based on Co2 (Cardon Dioxide)emissions.

Edited by glow worm on Monday 9th March 20:22

Yellow Griff

75 posts

284 months

Monday 9th March 2009
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Would also be interested to hear about any success stories as I'm about to start the battle of re-registering our 2002 Cerbera 4.5 RR.

Dave_M

5,486 posts

224 months

Monday 9th March 2009
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This worried but, but just checked and they are PLG, if anyone needs a reference to support their case just ask.

DVLA rules are wierd, they told me there was no way I could keep my index number on a car I destroyed as I did not notify them of my intention to change (I wouldn't have done if the car was OK). Ridiculous arguement, took a couple of letters but I got it, so hopefully you'll all win too.

Good luck.

Ubernoober

534 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Just checked the tax on my 2006 Tuscan and it was £185 last time around

spartridge

950 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Approach I took to achieve change to PLG taxation class:
  • Went into local DVLA office to raise issue in late December 2008. Local DVLA office took my original V5C and requested a covering letter from me explaining my case. They then sent this into central DVLA for investigation.
  • Received a negative response from central DVLA. Immediately sent an e-mail to Carole Evans – Customer Services Manager, following DVLA complaints procedure: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/contactus/if_things_go_wron...
  • Received a negative response. Immediately replied with an e-mail titled FAO: Noel Shanahan, CEO DVLA, once again following DLVA procedure. Put forward a strong argument based around number of existing TVR manufactured vehicles already registered as PLG, precedent set by Glow Worm’s successful taxation class change and the fact that road fund licence is a tax and therefore charging different rates to an individual with the same circumstances is fundamentally inequitable.
  • Case was referred to a back office department who investigated properly and my case was resolved within 10 days.

spartridge

950 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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The outcome:
  • The individual in the back office department consulted officials in the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) and the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA), confirming that my vehicle should be licensed as PLG. VCA confirmed that Low Volume Type Approval has no requirement to test for CO2 emissions.
  • The records regarding my vehicle were immediately amended. I received a new V5C, replacement tax disc and upon DVLA receipt of my old tax disc I will be receiving a rebate for previous years of ownership at incorrect charges.

spartridge

950 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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What I’d recommend doing if your car is classed as PC:
  • As Glow worm says, if you haven’t raised a case yet, get a letter sent into the DVLA ASAP with your V5C stating that your vehicle is incorrectly classed as PC when it should be PLG due to “Low Volume Type Approval” in order to get the ball rolling.
  • If you get a negative response initially (which is likely as there is currently no standard policy here) or if you already have a case open with the DVLA, pick up the complaints procedure immediately first through Carole Evans and then if necessary Noel Shanahan: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/contactus/if_things_go_wron...
  • I’ve been informed that all complaints through this route ultimately go to the same department/individual that resolved my case so if circumstances are substantially the same your case should be resolved.
  • In all correspondence, please feel free to quote reference Customer Support-Vehicles/30570045 which relates to my recent successful taxation class change from PC to PLG on 5th March 2009 for a 2005 registered Tuscan 2 S.
  • Let us know how you get on!

spartridge

950 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Solving this in the long term:
  • I’ve enquired about the possibility of setting up a policy or shortcut to the approach above but unfortunately this is not possible in the short term as I’ve been that each case has to be reviewed on its individual merits.
  • However, “issuing standard advice” internally within the DVLA regarding taxation class for TVR has been mentioned as a possibility if several similar cases are received so my view would be to get all issues raised to the DVLA and escalated through the complaints procedure ASAP – chances are this will make it substantially easier for the next person and it remains a possibility we could get a standard policy introduced for all owners.

S6 ROR

1,583 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Thanks for the above Simon, I will certainly be sending another letter to them today then, after being chucked out on 3 previous occassions.

lockhart flawse

Original Poster:

2,041 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Simon,

Thanks from me as well. I have already received the rejection letter and so I will follow your advice above.

L.F.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Persistence pays. Well done that man.

S6 ROR

1,583 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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I wrote to my MP (Jim Paice) last week, after getting the third rejection, and have just received a reply from him in today`s post, to say that he will also write to the dvla on my behalf.
Don`t know how much that will infulence, but i will also write in again and follows Simon`s advice as well.

Yellow Griff

75 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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That's great thanks Simon.

I'll give it a go and see how I get on.

S6 ROR

1,583 posts

265 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Result at last. Just received a letter this morning from the dvla, confirming that they will now be re-classifying my Griff back to PLG. That has dragged on since last september, six letters and a letter from my MP to get them to agree.

spartridge

950 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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nice one

Tonymg

768 posts

197 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Dear S6 R0R

Thats the way to do it just keep haveing a go at them.. nice one

my Tuscan is 2001 registard 07-09-2001 and my Taxaion Class is (PLG) Yepey....

so fxxx xxf Mr Brown....

& eat my Dust.... VOOM VOOM VOOM More CO2 Please 4LTR here reving up Big time VOOM VOOM VOOM.......

Big Hugs to you all........x

TonyMG...

lockhart flawse

Original Poster:

2,041 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Result. Got a brown envelope in the post which I kept until last because I thought it was from the Inland Revenue but no - it was from DVLA and inside was a new V7 with the taxation class PLG.

Thanks to everyone who has helped with this particularly the chap who first brought this topic to the fore and latterly to Simon for guiding me back from the dead end I had reached.

L.F.

nistock

92 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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I very recently bought a 2006 Tuscan convertible. The registration document had the correct PLG specification. I took it to my local motor tax office. The very pleasant lady behind the counter looked at the 3996cc engine size and the PLG specification and was about to say something to me about Co2 emissions, but her supervisor stated that it was a TVR and therefore not rated. I paid £185. Excellent!!

Phil Tudhope

98 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Hi,

I am trying to get my taxation class sorted out. I paid £400 for my Tuscan S Mk 2 Convertible this Jan. I have written to the local DVLA branch (Wimbledon) then 4 weeks later followed up with a phone call due to no rersponse to my lettter. I have just had the "didn't receive your letter sir otherwise we would have responded" game.
Had a talk with an assistant there and described the case. They clearly have no idea at all and just kept quoting CO2. But they said if I resend the letter (recorded delivery this time !!) they will try and pass it on to the right dept. What they will need, I was told, is the documentation of my case. And it won't be good enough to say "I was told by a chap in the pub".
So, do any of you nice people who have managed to get this sorted out have any documentation that I could get a copy of that will prove the case?

Many thanks in anticipation.
Phil Tudhope

e-mail phil.tuds@yahoo.co.uk

bobfather

11,171 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Phil Tudhope said:
So, do any of you nice people who have managed to get this sorted out have any documentation that I could get a copy of that will prove the case?
Me too, I'll be starting my case in the next couple of weeks. Please if anyone who has suceeded with this could give me heads up on what I need to do please PM my via my PH profile.

Cheers biggrin