Warning to all - Gaz Golds

Warning to all - Gaz Golds

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ray_von

2,913 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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Del 203 said:
Also that it appears to have been a known fault to the Manufacturer/some suppliers for some 2 years & it wasn't brought to customer attention before !!
Some people have been going on for years about the quality of these shocks, admittedly not encountering problems as severe as has been highlighted here, but nothing would surprise me about this brand and their main supplier.

willtvr

1,099 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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ray_von said:
Del 203 said:
Also that it appears to have been a known fault to the Manufacturer/some suppliers for some 2 years & it wasn't brought to customer attention before !!
Some people have been going on for years about the quality of these shocks, admittedly not encountering problems as severe as has been highlighted here, but nothing would surprise me about this brand and their main supplier.
Could say the same about Nitron then with what I've heard about Racing Reds.

dougc

8,240 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Holy crap! yikes Just got back from a 'spirited' drive on mine! Will be checking ASAP. Thanks fpr the heads up!

Mick4271

101 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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I am considering uprating my tuscan and was going to have racing reds fitted. So which is best Gaz Golds or racing reds, both seem to have issues!

aerospoke

364 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Can you still get Protechs in the homeland of TVRs?
I would consider them a worthy opponent to RRs and Gaz. And have not read much about issues with them.
Shame really that TCS went out of bussiness!
But of course i might be biased.

Cheers Jens

glow worm

5,799 posts

226 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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+1

Zippee

13,442 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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I've just e-mailed the chap who bought my old Chim to highlight this as he doesn't (AFAIK) use PH much. The Golds I had were fitted April 07 so hopefully he'll get them checked soon!

slideways

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4,101 posts

220 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Quinny said:
Mick4271 said:
So which is best Gaz Golds or racing reds, both seem to have issues!
Bilsteins
i was told that the spring seat was un anodised ally and has been known to crumble but this was from a guy a GAZ wink

Omerta

2,009 posts

250 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Is there a serial number range that the fault applies to, or any other way to know? (I haven't looked, but assume there are serial numbers on them somewhere).

ray_von

2,913 posts

251 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Quinny said:
Mick4271 said:
So which is best Gaz Golds or racing reds, both seem to have issues!
Bilsteins
Yep, got to agree there. If I ever needed new shocks I would get Bilsteins, and some Estorils!

s6boy

1,613 posts

224 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Omerta said:
Is there a serial number range that the fault applies to, or any other way to know? (I haven't looked, but assume there are serial numbers on them somewhere).
You'd hope so but you would have had to read 'Sprint' 2 years ago to find out rolleyes
I notice Ab shocks haven't been replying for a while, just wait for them to get their head out of the sand and ask Derek.

Del 203

12,728 posts

248 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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s6boy said:
Omerta said:
Is there a serial number range that the fault applies to, or any other way to know? (I haven't looked, but assume there are serial numbers on them somewhere).
You'd hope so but you would have had to read 'Sprint' 2 years ago to find out rolleyes
I notice Ab shocks haven't been replying for a while, just wait for them to get their head out of the sand and ask Derek.
Which issue was it mate ? I'll see if i still have it & post up wink

Ab Shocks

1,686 posts

219 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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s6boy said:
Omerta said:
Is there a serial number range that the fault applies to, or any other way to know? (I haven't looked, but assume there are serial numbers on them somewhere).
You'd hope so but you would have had to read 'Sprint' 2 years ago to find out rolleyes
I notice Ab shocks haven't been replying for a while, just wait for them to get their head out of the sand and ask Derek.
Yes they all have serial numbers but Gaz feel that all Gaz gold shocks from this period should be checked.
I fitted mine on the Chimmy in 2006 and they are fine, so don't expect horror stories in every case.

It will come as no surprise that the Gaz help line has been rather busy of late and the main question has been "have all Gaz kits been affected" and the answer is no. The Gaz gold composite kits are the only units that had wrongly ground bushes and this was around 2007.

The other question is " If there is nothing wrong with Gaz gold, why did you bring out Gaz gold pro"?
The issues with Gaz gold prior to this problem was overtightening in full droop on two poster ramps and axle stands and stones and flints damaging the nickel plated steel finish. Gaz decided to go to an anodised HE15 alloy material from billet and fit self lubricating bearings so anybody could fit without issues.




Edited by Ab Shocks on Monday 5th October 09:23

Pupp

12,206 posts

271 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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[quote=Ab Shocks
The issues with Gaz gold prior to this problem was overtightening in full droop on two poster ramps and axle stands and stones and flints damaging the nickel plated steel finish.
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Oh, is that why they rust like an outrigger on a beach? Amazing how those flints and stones pepper uniformly from every angle; someone more cynical than me might just form the view it was a completely inappropriate finish for the application rolleyes

Tuscanuwe

323 posts

194 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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I have also Gaz Gold ones!
Up to now all o.k.
But how shall i know if my ones have good or bad bushes mounted?
Maybe they get broken while driving in a corner
and a accident happened because of this faulty parts?
My ones were installed beginning of 2008?

Are this shocks good or bad, that is here the question!!!!!!!!!

Uwe

Zippee

13,442 posts

233 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Tuscanuwe said:
I have also Gaz Gold ones!
Up to now all o.k.
But how shall i know if my ones have good or bad bushes mounted?
Maybe they get broken while driving in a corner
and a accident happened because of this faulty parts?
My ones were installed beginning of 2008?

Are this shocks good or bad, that is here the question!!!!!!!!!

Uwe
That raises a good point - has it been confirmed that Gaz will be replacing all units or only those inspected but at present OK?
What about the low use cars whos shocks may be OK at the moment but could break in say, 6 months time?
Surely if Gaz know theres a problem then a full recall and replacement would be far better than leaving a potentially dodgy and dangerous shock onboard just because it hasn't 'yet' cracked?

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

190 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Zippee said:
Tuscanuwe said:
I have also Gaz Gold ones!
Up to now all o.k.
But how shall i know if my ones have good or bad bushes mounted?
Maybe they get broken while driving in a corner
and a accident happened because of this faulty parts?
My ones were installed beginning of 2008?

Are this shocks good or bad, that is here the question!!!!!!!!!

Uwe
That raises a good point - has it been confirmed that Gaz will be replacing all units or only those inspected but at present OK?
What about the low use cars whos shocks may be OK at the moment but could break in say, 6 months time?
Surely if Gaz know theres a problem then a full recall and replacement would be far better than leaving a potentially dodgy and dangerous shock onboard just because it hasn't 'yet' cracked?
A cynic would suggest that would cost money.

A cynic would maybe also suggest that failure of 2 or 3 year old shocks can be dealt with better on a case by case basis with which ever page of the excuse book being utilised as is deemed appropriate, although I understand that this line of customer service has not yet been adopted..

Tuscanuwe

323 posts

194 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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I will talk with my dealer here in Germany and hope that shocks will be changed,
if not he shall give to me written that he will take the risk and shall comfirm that shocks are o.k..
I will keep you informed!

Life is too short to give it in Gaz Shocks hands.

Uwe

aerospoke

364 posts

229 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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I can´t believe that there is a known failure on such a critical component and there is no recall of all shocks produced in the critical timespan! If only for a check and fitting of the correct bushings.

Regards Jens

ngr

331 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I have just seen this thread and have not come across this problem with any gaz shocks but have seen exactly the same problem with another brand beginning with the letter "#" The problem only occurs with the rubber bush versions,(infact the bushes look identical) where the steel outer corrodes and then caused the ali surround to crack through due to the rust on the bush (in my opinion). I would recommend anyone with rubber bushed ali dampers to check there bushes/dampers. Rose jointed dampers of the same make dont seem to have a problem.

Neil Garner

Edited by ngr on Thursday 15th October 22:35

Edited to remove any hint of the other damper manufacture to keep my nose clean smile

Edited by ngr on Thursday 15th October 22:36