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Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
That's horrific and no one stopping to help fills me with great sadness!I'm amazed that the car rolled over and what a poor job the roll cage around the windscreen has appeared to have done. Was that damage done by the rollover or by the armco hitting the windscreen pillar and bending it down? It's hard to tell as it looks like the GRP roof and pillar sections have sprung back into their original positions.
Drove up from South Wales to David Gerald just today for its annual service - after seeing this I was shing myself all the way!! Roads in south wales were as slippy as fk so I never went above 3k rpm, accelerated on straights only, braked on straights only.
What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!
Just got back safely and now in the garage.
What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!
Just got back safely and now in the garage.
D14 AYS said:
SAGTAFF said:
What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!
Is it for sale? First time I have seen a Typhon and from the outside, I can't remember seeing a better looking car. Prefer the inside of my Sagaris though. Looking at it and mine together though just makes you more sad these cars are not still in production. They had a lovely T350c there as well.
HarryW said:
Firstly glad you are all OK, contrary to what some might say I'd proffer the roll cage did its job in that you are here able to post.
It is however sad to see a rare Sag bite the dust.
I'd agree, crash and roll a grp sports car on an icy motorway at 60+ mph and walk away with minor injuries.It is however sad to see a rare Sag bite the dust.
Doesn't take away the horror of seeing this stunning Sag wrecked, stunning car and remember chatting at Le Mans a couple of years back. Hope you get sorted nice and quickly and the shoulder heals.
Message to all, for goodness sake take care on these winter roads...
Paul
I'm absolutly stunned that nobody stopped.....
I would of thought you would of felt the car turn over if it had...
Id say the roll over bar has done its job... Driver walks away job done... Looks nasty tho but its held together...
Id say the roll bar was about as strong as a normal car body shell..... the roll bars arnt cross bared so there aint alot of strenght in them.
Its only steel and fibreglass... Main thing is everyone is ok.
I would of thought you would of felt the car turn over if it had...
Id say the roll over bar has done its job... Driver walks away job done... Looks nasty tho but its held together...
Id say the roll bar was about as strong as a normal car body shell..... the roll bars arnt cross bared so there aint alot of strenght in them.
Its only steel and fibreglass... Main thing is everyone is ok.
Such a shame to lose such a beautiful car but glad you are both ok.
This was something that always concerned me whilst in ownership of my first Elise & how well it would protect us in such circumstances but luckilly we never did have such bad luck. They do protect the occupants better than some people would like to think though.
This was something that always concerned me whilst in ownership of my first Elise & how well it would protect us in such circumstances but luckilly we never did have such bad luck. They do protect the occupants better than some people would like to think though.
JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
Amazed how well you turned out considering, you are lucky to have not been hit by someone else.Glad to see you were both relatively unharmed and walked away.
Commiserations on the Sag
It's just not worth it with all this ice about glad your OK it's a shame we have one less Sagaris to grace our roads.
Most TVR's will let go if you use too much right foot or suddern change of direction it's the old power/weight thing, deadley on ice not too good in the wet either as we all know.
Hope it's not affected your Christmas have a good one.
regards Chris.
Most TVR's will let go if you use too much right foot or suddern change of direction it's the old power/weight thing, deadley on ice not too good in the wet either as we all know.
Hope it's not affected your Christmas have a good one.
regards Chris.
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