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JERRYCO

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133 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!

D14 AYS

3,694 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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JERRYCO said:
even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us
Just UNBELIVABLE rage Heartless bds !

loose cannon

5,485 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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st nobody stopped !!! thats horrific yikes

Phil Dicky

5,746 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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D14 AYS said:
JERRYCO said:
even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us
Just UNBELIVABLE rage Heartless bds !
fk me I'm stunned.

Must say after reading about your incident I drove mine into Leeds today I took it very very steady.

dvs_dave

5,602 posts

171 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
That's horrific and no one stopping to help fills me with great sadness!

I'm amazed that the car rolled over and what a poor job the roll cage around the windscreen has appeared to have done. Was that damage done by the rollover or by the armco hitting the windscreen pillar and bending it down? It's hard to tell as it looks like the GRP roof and pillar sections have sprung back into their original positions.

SAGTAFF

588 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Drove up from South Wales to David Gerald just today for its annual service - after seeing this I was shcensoreding myself all the way!! Roads in south wales were as slippy as fcensoredk so I never went above 3k rpm, accelerated on straights only, braked on straights only.

What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!

Just got back safely and now in the garage.

HarryW

14,749 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Firstly glad you are all OK, contrary to what some might say I'd proffer the roll cage did its job in that you are here able to post.
It is however sad to see a rare Sag bite the dust.

D14 AYS

3,694 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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SAGTAFF said:
What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!
Is it for sale?

SAGTAFF

588 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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D14 AYS said:
SAGTAFF said:
What a treat when I got there though - they have somebodies Typhon in the showroom. Lurvely!!
Is it for sale?
No, apparently the guy who owns it had an operation which means he can't drive for a while so was going to put it into storage but David Gerald said they would put it on show instead. The guy owns a Sagaris as well so is probably a PH'er. Its the car which has the reg which implies Typhon which I think is well known on here.

First time I have seen a Typhon and from the outside, I can't remember seeing a better looking car. Prefer the inside of my Sagaris though. Looking at it and mine together though just makes you more sad these cars are not still in production. They had a lovely T350c there as well.

The Surveyor

6,853 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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HarryW said:
Firstly glad you are all OK, contrary to what some might say I'd proffer the roll cage did its job in that you are here able to post.
It is however sad to see a rare Sag bite the dust.
I'd agree, crash and roll a grp sports car on an icy motorway at 60+ mph and walk away with minor injuries.

Doesn't take away the horror of seeing this stunning Sag wrecked, stunning car and remember chatting at Le Mans a couple of years back. Hope you get sorted nice and quickly and the shoulder heals.

Message to all, for goodness sake take care on these winter roads...

Paul

Mobile Chicane

18,897 posts

158 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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The deformation of the rollcage is a tad worrying, however it looks as though the GRP has done it's job in terms of breaking up the impact before it got to that Glad all are ok.

Jackal83

178 posts

120 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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I'm absolutly stunned that nobody stopped.....

I would of thought you would of felt the car turn over if it had...
Id say the roll over bar has done its job... Driver walks away job done... Looks nasty tho but its held together...
Id say the roll bar was about as strong as a normal car body shell..... the roll bars arnt cross bared so there aint alot of strenght in them.

Its only steel and fibreglass... Main thing is everyone is ok.

Hoover.

5,919 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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looks bad...tivs always look bad..... personaly I say a good testament of the design.

Good to hear your ok, merry xams... and hope is all ok insurance wise

pddmac

142 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Guys & gals, a gentle word of advice - leave your TVR's at home for a few weeks. Unless of course, you are prepared for ......

boobles

15,241 posts

161 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Such a shame to lose such a beautiful car but glad you are both ok.
This was something that always concerned me whilst in ownership of my first Elise & how well it would protect us in such circumstances but luckilly we never did have such bad luck. They do protect the occupants better than some people would like to think though.

jvr

732 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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It must have happened very quick if you didn't realise you had rolled,the fact is why did it roll.Testament to the car though it took the brunt.I bet its given you more faith in crash protection on this car.
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TOVIE

10 posts

118 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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So glad you and your GF are o.., Merry xmas, and hope you get into a new saggy soon.......Gordon

HeavySoul

4,677 posts

165 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
Amazed how well you turned out considering, you are lucky to have not been hit by someone else.

Glad to see you were both relatively unharmed and walked away.

Commiserations on the Sag frown

philmcw

177 posts

194 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Well who knows what forces were in play when the Sag rolled and which part hit the road first when it did. I'd say the Sag did its job well and kept you relatively unscathed. You can always get another Sag. There's not another you !

Glad you're both OK. smile


SEN 18

1,247 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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It's just not worth it with all this ice about glad your OK it's a shame we have one less Sagaris to grace our roads.
Most TVR's will let go if you use too much right foot or suddern change of direction it's the old power/weight thing, deadley on ice not too good in the wet either as we all know.
Hope it's not affected your Christmas have a good one.
regards Chris.