Fitting a 4.6 Injected engine to a TR7
Discussion
Hugh,
What size are the magnesium wheels? and what offset?
Are they in Ford or Triumph PCD? I know alot of the Rally wheels where in Ford PCD?
@ Scottish Grinnal, what kind of Coilovers are you running on the rear?
How about you too hugh? what kind of suspension are you planning to run?
Iain
What size are the magnesium wheels? and what offset?
Are they in Ford or Triumph PCD? I know alot of the Rally wheels where in Ford PCD?
@ Scottish Grinnal, what kind of Coilovers are you running on the rear?
How about you too hugh? what kind of suspension are you planning to run?
Iain
Ian,
The wheels in the picture are 9 x 13", but I have a few other sizes, the biggest ones are 11" x 13"
Think I will fit 15" Minilites, will go for as wide as I can get under the rear arches with maybe 7" at the front.
Update
Going to get the first of the Corsa power steering bits back from the machine shop this weekend.
Just got the bits from the Steering Wheel to the back of the Corsa to trial fit, if that goes well, I will sort out how to incorporate the collapsible lower column to the bottom of the Corsa motor assembly.
Cheers
Hugh
The wheels in the picture are 9 x 13", but I have a few other sizes, the biggest ones are 11" x 13"
Think I will fit 15" Minilites, will go for as wide as I can get under the rear arches with maybe 7" at the front.
Update
Going to get the first of the Corsa power steering bits back from the machine shop this weekend.
Just got the bits from the Steering Wheel to the back of the Corsa to trial fit, if that goes well, I will sort out how to incorporate the collapsible lower column to the bottom of the Corsa motor assembly.
Cheers
Hugh
Hugh Keir said:
Ian,
The wheels in the picture are 9 x 13", but I have a few other sizes, the biggest ones are 11" x 13"
Think I will fit 15" Minilites, will go for as wide as I can get under the rear arches with maybe 7" at the front.
Update
Going to get the first of the Corsa power steering bits back from the machine shop this weekend.
Just got the bits from the Steering Wheel to the back of the Corsa to trial fit, if that goes well, I will sort out how to incorporate the collapsible lower column to the bottom of the Corsa motor assembly.
Cheers
Hugh
Hugh you made a list of parts you had on one of the other forums.. The wheels in the picture are 9 x 13", but I have a few other sizes, the biggest ones are 11" x 13"
Think I will fit 15" Minilites, will go for as wide as I can get under the rear arches with maybe 7" at the front.
Update
Going to get the first of the Corsa power steering bits back from the machine shop this weekend.
Just got the bits from the Steering Wheel to the back of the Corsa to trial fit, if that goes well, I will sort out how to incorporate the collapsible lower column to the bottom of the Corsa motor assembly.
Cheers
Hugh
Can you email me, ileinster@hotmail.co.uk
I am interested in some of the Parts.
Iain
Hugh, I have owned for nearly 16 years an old TR7 V8 rally car that needed re-shelling when I bought it, the previous owner had also owned it for several years and also never used it...could it be one of your early cars...the number plate is UDH ##R ?
It had period 'FG rallying' stickers on it and a lot of period factory parts...Alloy AP 4 pot vented brakes on alloy bell mounts, Bilsteins which were adjustable up front, magnesium Minilites, Jaguar 4HA axle with inboard suspension mounts, special loom and a works dash with the 'Sun' rev- counter.
It was a red shell that had a blue and white sides, though not painted like the 'works cars'...does it ring any bells?
In fact if anybody has any info on the car I would be interested to know, thanks. P
It had period 'FG rallying' stickers on it and a lot of period factory parts...Alloy AP 4 pot vented brakes on alloy bell mounts, Bilsteins which were adjustable up front, magnesium Minilites, Jaguar 4HA axle with inboard suspension mounts, special loom and a works dash with the 'Sun' rev- counter.
It was a red shell that had a blue and white sides, though not painted like the 'works cars'...does it ring any bells?
In fact if anybody has any info on the car I would be interested to know, thanks. P
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I spoke to the late Charles Golding about my TR in 1998 but he was unable to help me with much information regarding my car, other than it had the Jaguar rear axle as used by the works cars, (though it was running drum brakes and not discs at the rear) but still on the 3.75pcd wheels.
It did have a window sticker from the Wolverhampton and South Staffordshire car club. There was no internet back then, perhaps it is time that I really got back on the case and tried to sort out the history of my car once and for all.
It did have a window sticker from the Wolverhampton and South Staffordshire car club. There was no internet back then, perhaps it is time that I really got back on the case and tried to sort out the history of my car once and for all.
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Marks6 said:
Hugh,
Can you advise where you got the rear brake hats, brackets and clappers for your 7?
I'm building up a track only version and while the standard drums might be good enough it would be better to have a little more power over the rear wheels.
Cheers!
I had the top hats copied from some works ones, the works ones were a cast steel, bit strange when the front Bells ( Top hats ) were made from alloy and they had a much bigger job to do.Can you advise where you got the rear brake hats, brackets and clappers for your 7?
I'm building up a track only version and while the standard drums might be good enough it would be better to have a little more power over the rear wheels.
Cheers!
The calipers and brackets were bought from BL Motorsport, I have a number of two pot calipers without hand brake levers plus loads of pads, they are a Formula 2 front caliper CP2383
Cheers
Hugh
oronero said:
Hugh, I have owned for nearly 16 years an old TR7 V8 rally car that needed re-shelling when I bought it, the previous owner had also owned it for several years and also never used it...could it be one of your early cars...the number plate is UDH ##R ?
It had period 'FG rallying' stickers on it and a lot of period factory parts...Alloy AP 4 pot vented brakes on alloy bell mounts, Bilsteins which were adjustable up front, magnesium Minilites, Jaguar 4HA axle with inboard suspension mounts, special loom and a works dash with the 'Sun' rev- counter.
It was a red shell that had a blue and white sides, though not painted like the 'works cars'...does it ring any bells?
In fact if anybody has any info on the car I would be interested to know, thanks. P
I am sure I have seen your car somewhere lots of years ago.It had period 'FG rallying' stickers on it and a lot of period factory parts...Alloy AP 4 pot vented brakes on alloy bell mounts, Bilsteins which were adjustable up front, magnesium Minilites, Jaguar 4HA axle with inboard suspension mounts, special loom and a works dash with the 'Sun' rev- counter.
It was a red shell that had a blue and white sides, though not painted like the 'works cars'...does it ring any bells?
In fact if anybody has any info on the car I would be interested to know, thanks. P
Adjustable Bilsteins were not a works spec and the inboard rear brakes are not something I have seen before.
Mike Gibbon who owned FG Rallying had access to all of the Works stuff, although your car may not have been built by him.
Cheers
Hugh
Sorry Hugh but you misunderstood me, the rear axle has the locating arms mounted inboard in the passenger cabin behind the rear seats (as was carried out to rally escorts), not on the underside of the floorpan as per standard. Jacking points are also located at the side of the sills and through to the cage. ( Not inboard rear brakes)
The front struts are Bilstein with adjustable platform height struts, I hope that clears up some of your points.
I have been led to believe that I need to contact David Lisle regarding information for my car...does anybody know where I can contact him? I have already tried the Wolves and South Staffs. car club but drew a blank.
The front struts are Bilstein with adjustable platform height struts, I hope that clears up some of your points.
I have been led to believe that I need to contact David Lisle regarding information for my car...does anybody know where I can contact him? I have already tried the Wolves and South Staffs. car club but drew a blank.
Yup,
The top links being inside the cabin on a 5 link rear axle is the works set-up, as is the jacking points locating in the cage.
If it is a works shell, most ( Safety Devices) had the floor dropped to create clearance for the drivers / navigators helmet.
Not heard of David Lisle though.
The top links being inside the cabin on a 5 link rear axle is the works set-up, as is the jacking points locating in the cage.
If it is a works shell, most ( Safety Devices) had the floor dropped to create clearance for the drivers / navigators helmet.
Not heard of David Lisle though.
I managed to locate David Lisle and have had some communication. FYI Dave owned and rallied an ex Tony Pond TR7 during the mid 1980s OOM 513R.
It seems that my car does indeed have many period 'works parts' including loom, brakes suspension etc. I am currently awaiting some more information and images from when it was rallied back in the day.
It seems that my car does indeed have many period 'works parts' including loom, brakes suspension etc. I am currently awaiting some more information and images from when it was rallied back in the day.
Hugh Keir said:
Here is a view of the front of the engine showing the serpentine belt part number 7PK1260 that fit's when there is no power steering and no A/C fitted.
Hi.I'm in the process of fitting a serpentine 3.9 in TR7 inplace of the old vee belt 3.5 that was in there.
The part number you've listed for the serpentine belt comes up as one for a Nissan Navara on Google:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7PK1260-Alternator-Nissan-...
Is this the one you've used?
Lastly, I was worried about alternator clearance with the bonnet, on my old setup the alternator was low down below the water pump. Is your engine sitting further back than normal? I'm running an LT77 not a Tremac.
Thanks.
300bhp/ton said:
Hi.
I'm in the process of fitting a serpentine 3.9 in TR7 inplace of the old vee belt 3.5 that was in there.
The part number you've listed for the serpentine belt comes up as one for a Nissan Navara on Google:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7PK1260-Alternator-Nissan-...
Is this the one you've used?
Lastly, I was worried about alternator clearance with the bonnet, on my old setup the alternator was low down below the water pump. Is your engine sitting further back than normal? I'm running an LT77 not a Tremac.
Thanks.
The number I quoted is stamped on the Poly V belt I used, it probably fits a number of other cars.I'm in the process of fitting a serpentine 3.9 in TR7 inplace of the old vee belt 3.5 that was in there.
The part number you've listed for the serpentine belt comes up as one for a Nissan Navara on Google:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7PK1260-Alternator-Nissan-...
Is this the one you've used?
Lastly, I was worried about alternator clearance with the bonnet, on my old setup the alternator was low down below the water pump. Is your engine sitting further back than normal? I'm running an LT77 not a Tremac.
Thanks.
Alternator clearance with the bonnet is a bit of an issue. I moved the engine back 2". This is how the works rally cars were run in their final guise and helps bonnet clearance allot. The limiting factor was the bonnet catch mechanism, I would have moved it further back, but could only trim a little off the catch mechanism bracket. Not a problem on rally cars where this bracket is removed.
Unfortunately not made any progress on the car, work was pretty full on this past couple of years. Currently looking for a new job, so might have some time to finish if my next job is less demanding.
Have been working on getting the car on the road this year, but have been struggling with the choice of wheels to fit to the car.
Wanted to keep the wheel arches standard, although the arches have been rolled for added wheel clearance.
I have AP racing 4 pot calipers that will fit inside 13" wheels, but thought it might be better to fit larger diameter wheels and larger front brakes.
The engine figures are 281 BHP @ 5500 rpm, maximum torque is 300 lb.ft @ 4500 rpm, so could also do with something reasonably wide on the rear.
Any suggestions on what would look good and be a decent width for the power?
Thanks
Hugh
Wanted to keep the wheel arches standard, although the arches have been rolled for added wheel clearance.
I have AP racing 4 pot calipers that will fit inside 13" wheels, but thought it might be better to fit larger diameter wheels and larger front brakes.
The engine figures are 281 BHP @ 5500 rpm, maximum torque is 300 lb.ft @ 4500 rpm, so could also do with something reasonably wide on the rear.
Any suggestions on what would look good and be a decent width for the power?
Thanks
Hugh
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