Winter tyres vol 2

[RizzoTheRat]

Interesting set of data, looks like my current Goodyear Vectors are a reasonable performance in each test until you get to the dry braking one! Luckily it rains a lot here!

[Salted_Peanut]

mmm-five said:

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/All-Season/

Many thanks

[Bonefish Blues]

Just bought a set of winter rims with some Bridgestone Blizzak winters already fitted, which is nice (BMW i3, whose only winter/all season wheelset is 19x5J all round, fitted with 155/70s)

I'd already picked up a set of Goodyear all seasons from Camskill at a very good price, but no matter, they'll be fine next year. Bring on the snow - I remember the winter of 2010 when our MX5 with Hankook winters on ran rings around big 4x4s in the snow

[Speed addicted]

In 2010 I had a BMW X5 with winter wheels and tyres that I was looking forward to trying out.
Due to the weather conditions I got stuck offshore for a month and missed most of it!
My wife was happy enough though.

Got the current pickup new tyres for this winter, the previous Michelin latitudes have done really well through everything even though they’re not snow rated. They were down to 4mm after 40k miles.

I’ve gone to Falken Wildpeak AT3W this time as they're winter rated and get good reviews as a do everything tyre.

[mercedeslimos]

I used to use Continental TS830Ps almost exclusively in the winter since about 2016 (when I actually started using separate summer/winter wheel/tyre sets), but after a set of Kumho i'Zen KW27 (funny tyre size, Continental not available in any reasonable timeframe) which were fine but didn't last half as long as I'd have liked (normally get 3 full winter seasons out of them, about 27/30k miles - these got like 18k over 2 seasons and were completely dead) I decided to swap to all-seasons as we don't get enough snow on a normal year to justify it and thought that all-season might be better in the horrid damp wet conditions it seems to pervade here from October until March.

At the time, the Nexen N Blue 4Season first gen seemed like a good bet based on the reviews, and a good trade off between cost-effective on a daily driver and performance all-round (Southern Ireland based, but where I was living got more snow than most places, and wet <7 degrees for 4+ months of the year, yuck!)

I got 40k miles out of the rears and about 36k out of the fronts over 3 winter seasons (still a little left on them, they were kept as a just-in-case I burst one of the new replacements - I have a tyre machine, etc)

I was blown away by just how good they were when we got a snap snowfall last January, and the Mrs got stuck at work. I knew that they were somewhat decent in the little bits and pieces of an inch here and there, but a 52-mile round trip to collect her on a single-track back road (main road was blocked due to a jack-knifed artic), they were probably 99% as good as a "proper" winter. Only got stuck once that week, where the snow in the centre of the road was higher than the subframe and lifted the car - a shovel was the only way out there. Decent going for a 1700kg diesel hatchback.

Their replacements that are due to go on are the newer 4Season 2. That's 2 sets on cars this winter, one FWD hatchback and one 4WD saloon. Their reviews seem to continue on the same vein, and it will be interesting to see how they perform. If the previous ones were decent on the Mondeo, I wonder what a proper Torsen quattro system and raisable air suspension will be like if we get some snow. Can't wait to test it out, hopefully it snows!

[Davie]

Davie said:

Sat here deliberating ordering fronts for mine....

I'll sleep on it...

Slept on it.

2 x Vredestein Quatrac Pro fitted this morning. Fitter couldn't work out what was wrong with what was on it... ie, also Quatracs at 3.5mm across the tread.

Rears at 7mm so I'll take my chances putting the new ones up front.

[21st Century Man]

I struggle to find the top placed test tyres in my size, 225/60x16. I'm down to about 3.5mm all around and the tread blocks on the front outer edges are starting to tear off on my Vredestien Quatracs (I believe it's known as chunking!?) due to aggressive driving. Anyway, my first three choices (and a number of others too) I can't have, so I've opted for Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6.

[colin79666]

Have just had Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 fitted to my Lexus IS 300h.

Couldn t get the Bridgestone I had planned and cross climate 3 sport not available in 17”. These seem to be similar in that more summer biased than some, so still A wet grip and reviews would indicate should still be good in the dry. Have retained the Michelins that came off so can get them put back on in the summer if the Pirelli s turn out poor in the heat but hope to avoid the faff by going all season rather than a dedicated winter set.

Will report back once I ve had some miles on them as winter progresses.

[bolidemichael]

I have had some Michelin Cross Climate 3 Sport fitted in 19” 255/40 Front and 275/40 Rear.

First impressions having switched from 20” 255/35 and 275/35 Pilot Sport 4S — having driven in low teens on the motorway at speed, more comfortable/pliant but they move more under acceleration on bends, I guess the tread blocks. Not brilliant but not bad; the litmus test for me will be in lower temps when there’s the likelihood of traction breaking as with the CC2 fitted last year.

[Salted_Peanut]

colin79666 said:

Have just had Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 fitted to my Lexus IS 300h.

Couldn t get the Bridgestone I had planned and cross climate 3 sport not available in 17 . These seem to be similar in that more summer biased than some, so still A wet grip and reviews would indicate should still be good in the dry.

The All-Season SF3 tyres have won various awards, so I’ll be interested in your real-world experience with them.

[TG20T]

Looking for 255/45/ZR21 all seasons, ideally wanted Conti Allseason Contact 2, but can only find one lonely Falken AS220 Pro which looks decidedly average.

It's for a SQ6.

Fronts are 255/45 ZR21, rears 285/40 ZR21.

I can find rears no problem, it's the fronts I'm struggling with.

Grateful for any help or ideas

[Patrick Bateman]

I think you're out of luck, that's all I can find on mytyres and I found them much better for choice when needing a relatively rare winter size for the Jaaag.

[E-bmw]

TG20T said:

Looking for 255/45/ZR21 all seasons, ideally wanted Conti Allseason Contact 2, but can only find one lonely Falken AS220 Pro which looks decidedly average.

It's for a SQ6.

Fronts are 255/45 ZR21, rears 285/40 ZR21.

I can find rears no problem, it's the fronts I'm struggling with.

I wonder does the sticker (generally on the door post) give different sizes for winter tyres?

Many do.

[otolith]

Seems a weirdly unpopular size, Camskill has all-seasons and winters in 35, 40, and 50 profile, but nothing at all in 255/45/21 - and not many summer tyres in that size either.

[QuartzDad]

TG20T said:

Looking for 255/45/ZR21 all seasons, ideally wanted Conti Allseason Contact 2, but can only find one lonely Falken AS220 Pro which looks decidedly average.

It's for a SQ6.

Fronts are 255/45 ZR21, rears 285/40 ZR21.

I can find rears no problem, it's the fronts I'm struggling with.

Grateful for any help or ideas

Michelin Alpin and X-Ice, Pirelli, Continental and others listed.


https://www.mytyres.co.uk/search?season=wi&wid...

[Gad-Westy]

QuartzDad said:

Michelin Alpin and X-Ice, Pirelli, Continental and others listed.


https://www.mytyres.co.uk/search?season=wi&wid...

Those are all winters rather than all season I think.

[FiF]

Gad-Westy said:

QuartzDad said:

Michelin Alpin and X-Ice, Pirelli, Continental and others listed.


https://www.mytyres.co.uk/search?season=wi&wid...

Those are all winters rather than all season I think.

Plus I think the X-Ice are Nordic winters iirc so are absolutely brilliant in snow and ice, but on those dirty greasy roads that you often get in a UK winter can be a bit tricky. Still not ditch finders but you have to accept there are better options on tarmac.

[QuartzDad]

Gad-Westy said:

Those are all winters rather than all season I think.

Ah, my bad.

Pirelli Scorpion?

The SCORPION MS is a high-performance all-season SUV tire with focus on wet performance, comfort, noise reduction, and safety, and ...

Looks to be available for the fronts.

[TroubledSoul]

I know it's a bit of a no no on here, but I ended up buying two different sets of part worns. I think some are Vredestein Wintracs and the others are Pirelli Sotto Zero. The Wintracs look a much better tyre for wet and ice grip plus stopping ditsnce.

Would I, as is my thinking, be better putting the Vreds on the front? Car is a C6 A6.

Edited by TroubledSoul on Thursday 20th November 10:38

[21st Century Man]

There's nothing quite like new rubber is there?